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Source: (consider it) Thread: Oops - your Trump presidency discussion thread
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quote:
Originally posted by Ohher:
Yes, and I've just been wondering how it's possible that, in the five and a half months since the yam's inauguration, he's managed not to be accused of this behavior even once.

Perhaps it WAS "just" all (locker room) talk, imagined by 44.5 as "impressive" to his young male interviewer.

Well of course he is indisputably a liar. But we must also remember that the pussy-grabbing boast took place when he was 60 -- ten years ago. Time is not a lecherous boor's friend; I am sure Lyin' Don has other, larger issues now to occupy his mind. Comey is 6 foot 8 and a trained FBI man -- you would have to be crazy to grope his crotch.

As to the teflon. I still say that except for the most deep-dyed Trumpistas, most Americans are patriots. If Li'l Donny damages the nation enough, visibly enough, there will be a turn. He will go too far even for them. He is proven out of his own mouth, to care only for himself; the good of the nation, the dangers from Russia, the welfare of the people, all these are opaque to him and without meaning. But he will, at last, go too far.

I am afraid this will call for loss of life, however. And it'll have to be the right lives that he carelessly loses. Not black people, not women or children, not Syrians or citizens of Qatar or whatever, not even the sweat and blood of the US Army. The sin has to be expiated with blood. The blood of older white men.

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Trump and his 'team' are quite skilled, in a bizarre sort of way, at creating alternative narratives and defending them stoutly. Even when they are stupid. Even his lawyer got into the game over Comey. Comey is now a leaker. Well, of course he isn't. Note that the potential defence of libeller would be available, but unfortunately Comey is telling the truth. Which I'm sure any White House recordings will confirm. So therefore Comey has to be a leaker.

Analogous tactics were of course used over Sadiq Khan.

It's all rather 1984. If Trump says 2+2=5, well that's just an alternative fact. To be enforced any way he can get away with it. After all, his loyal supporters are much happier to parrot than check.

I think Croesos is right though. It is a good tactic to keep on attacking his veracity and general unpleasantness. His support in the polls continues to decline as more and more people wise up to his true nature and general incompetence.

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quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Comey is 6 foot 8 and a trained FBI man -- you would have to be crazy to grope his crotch.

To paraphrase Mae West in the film Myra Breckenridge: "Never mind the six feet. Let's talk about the eight inches."

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[Eek!]

Miss Amanda, I think you ought to go and get your wrap....

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It's being dry cleaned -- some sort of stain got on it somehow. [Confused]

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Let me guess -- it's a blue one.

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Well, it's definitely not orange. I can tell you that much in open session. [Biased]

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*where is the fan emoticon!*

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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
Comey is now a leaker. Well, of course he isn't.

I may be wrong, but couldn't he getting a friend to give details to the press be considered "leaking"? Personally, I am all for leaking if people believe government is overstepping it's bounds...but I think it is still leaking.

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His support in the polls continues to decline as more and more people wise up to his true nature and general incompetence.
Good point. But I suppose I'd like to see some acknowledgement on the other side that their policies are leaving people behind. Maybe I've missed it, my fault. Not as much as the Orange Menace's, to be sure, but people are still struggling. And it seemed to me neither side particularly cares. Though Trump cares even less.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
I may be wrong, but couldn't he getting a friend to give details to the press be considered "leaking"? Personally, I am all for leaking if people believe government is overstepping it's bounds...but I think it is still leaking.

It would be leaking if he included anything classified. Giving his own, non-classified account of what happened doesn't fit this.
The Cheeto administration wants to have things both ways. To persecute people for leaking information whilst claiming they are lying.
prior to November last, it would have made one's head spin.

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The problem as far as I can see it is that the opposition is fixated on tripping up Trump rather than on planning for elections. At least that's what the media give one to believe.
I am a constituent in the 5th Congressional District of Washington State which is represented by Republican Congresswoman Cathy McMorris Rogers. She is the highest-ranking Republican woman in Congress at this time.

I can assure you we are actively working for her defeat this next go around. She is refusing to participate in town hall meetings because she is not listening to voters. She voted for to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

People are relying on this act for health care coverage. You try to take away something that people need, things are getting ugly.

At this stage, it is estimated the Republicans can lose up to 40 seats in the next election Democrats only need 23 seats in order to gain the House

The Democrats only need three seats to flip for the Senate. Historically four seats will likely flip against the administration.

All this is to say while the Democrats are working the Trump card for all it's got, it is not the only reason Congress will be going blue.

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Originally posted by Gramps49:
All this is to say while the Democrats are working the Trump card for all it's got, it is not the only reason Congress will be going blue.

Also because the Congressional Republicans will be holding their breath, hoping to retain not only their hold on Congress, but the very existence of their party?

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Comey is guilty of snitching on his former boss, but that's not illegal leaking under US law. And you can be 100% sure that Comey will have checked out any legal exposure in advance.

No, this is just alternative narrative game playing by Trump. Who is now accusing Comey of lying and threatening to produce tapes 'soon'. Ha bloody Ha. 'Soon' in Trump speak is just a news cycle device and normally means sometime never.

He's just an asshole who happens to be POTUS. Not too difficult to see through his stupid games.

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I would not be surprised if he offered a "doctored" set of tapes that corroborate his version of the encounters.

If he were indeed so stupid, I would hope that Comey would have at his disposal an army of technically savvy sympathizers to come to his aid to expose the fraud.

That would be the end of the Orange One -- and good riddance!

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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
Comey is guilty of snitching on his former boss, but that's not illegal leaking under US law. And you can be 100% sure that Comey will have checked out any legal exposure in advance.

No, this is just alternative narrative game playing by Trump. Who is now accusing Comey of lying and threatening to produce tapes 'soon'. Ha bloody Ha. 'Soon' in Trump speak is just a news cycle device and normally means sometime never.

He's just an asshole who happens to be POTUS. Not too difficult to see through his stupid games.

Stupid game? Maybe...but it was effective in moving Comey...

There are no tapes.

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What's that you say, romanlion? No tapes? You mean T-boy lied to us?

As to the future of the GOP, they have irrevocably tied themselves to the king. When it is revealed that he has no clothes they'll be standing right there beside him, bare-assed. The party may or may not survive in name, but it's dead, just shambling around like a zombie.

The church in the US got into bed with the pussygroper as well, and they're not going to recover in my lifetime.

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What is it with these people? What drives them into bed with pussygropers, and so forth?

Over here, we have our revered Prime Minister getting into bed, in order to 'govern', with mediaeval types who believe the world was created 6021 years ago, in 4004BC!

Truly, the lunatics have taken over the asylum...

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Comey is guilty of snitching on his former boss, but that's not illegal leaking under US law. And you can be 100% sure that Comey will have checked out any legal exposure in advance.

Yes. At worst it is "not loyal"-- something Comey has already alerted the Orange One he prioritizes lower than honesty. But for Trump loyalty is the greatest good, and since he has clearly confused being POTUS with being a medevil monarch, he assumes that disloyalty to the crown is a capital offense.

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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
Ha bloody Ha.

Thank you, Barnabas. This is my new mantra when it comes to all things Trump or the Freedom Caucus.
[Big Grin]

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Meh. My PTSD has come roaring back and I jump three feet when anybody speaks to me. Explained to my husband why I'm being so twitchy (it's easy to avoid the news when you spend all your time in Little Vietnam). He kindly decided that the way to solve my twitchiness was to talk shit until I was so irritated with him I would forget about Trump!

We would have had a rip roaring fight except I caught the twinkle in his eye and confronted him with it. He admitted his tactics.

The sucky thing is, it worked.

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quote:
Originally posted by romanlion:

There are no tapes.

You don't know that for sure. Who knows what arrangements if any are made to record what the present POTUS and his visitors discuss?

Maybe there is another "Alexander Butterfield" moment in our future? Or maybe Trump is just a lying toad? Or maybe Comey is a nutjob?

In advance of further information, ISTM that the nutjob resides (part time anyway)at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC.

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I'm less interested than others about the potential existence of tapes. If they do exist, I'm highly dubious we'll get an unedited version that either confirms or denies Comey's testimony. Possibly we'll get some spliced together version, or something like the infamous Watergate "gaps" which Donald thinks he can use to support his version of truth. More likely he's just playing with us. The man is a troll.

If this were a jury trial, I'd be sitting back with the popcorn, pretty darn sure which witness would win the he said/he said stand-off. But played out in front of Congress in an impeachment trial? Much less certain.

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quote:
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The man is a troll.

Yes indeed. We'd kick him off the Ship in a heartbeat.

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quote:
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The man is a troll.

Yes indeed. We'd kick him off the Ship in a heartbeat.
Just for starters, he'd have problems with Commandments 1,2,3, and 5 -- especially 1.

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Re tapes:

T reportedly records conversations in Trump Towers. (In his residence, I presume...) If that's true, he might well continue the habit in the White House.

And microphones are a lot easier to hide than in Nixon's day, and they don't have to have a wired connection.

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Re Comey and leaking:

Of course, it was leaking. I don't know if it was illegal. Ethically, it was probably the right thing to do.

As to whether Comey checked out his legal exposure first, I'm not sure. From what he said, it seems like he was in turmoil, and scared, and maybe even panicking. Any sensible person who wasn't a diehard T supporter would've been. That's why the immediate memo-writing in his car, and the realization that woke him in the night.

He may well have been covering his own a**, as much as he was trying to get an investigation going. And that's probably why he was so forthright in his testimony--better to admit it, than to have someone dig it up.

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quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas62:
Comey is guilty of snitching on his former boss, but that's not illegal leaking under US law. And you can be 100% sure that Comey will have checked out any legal exposure in advance.

I didn't mention illegality...I wrote "leaking". In my view, he did leak. Was it right? Of course, in my mind. But it was a leak...he didn't come out and say it, he gave it to someone who gave it to the press.

edit: thanks for the agreement GK - good to know I'm not completely mad; or if I am you are with me. [Big Grin]

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Originally posted by Gramps49:
I can assure you we are actively working for her defeat this next go around. She is refusing to participate in town hall meetings because she is not listening to voters. She voted for to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

People are relying on this act for health care coverage. You try to take away something that people need, things are getting ugly.

Thanks for this. It does give one hope.

I freely admit I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to the left of most, if not all, Americans. And I try not to impose my socialist views on another country, where the very thought of free healthcare for all sends shivers down many spines which confuses me to this day. Do you think the Democrats need to change any policies, as per Bernie's latest speech? Or do you think they, as they are, generally gel with enough of the American populace as they are?

Forgive me if I'm overstepping my mark as an outsider, but your country is the most powerful in the world and your CiC and government has some impact on what happens around the world. I just recall seeing Hillary veer to the left and disown policies she previously supported (the Pacific Free Trade agreement, for instance) during the selection process. Is that lurch to the left continuing? Is it beneficial / needed? Or is a centrist mentality more likely to appeal?

I may have misunderstod the level of hatred towards Hillary, but was Trump's election in any way a dismissal of where the Democrats were and the policies they pursued (and those they forgot?)? What caused people to stay at home in large numbers? I'm trying to make sense, esp. given Corbyn's good performance, of where progressive parties need to be now.

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Comey wasn't leaking, he was whistleblowing [Smile]

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Ian--

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edit: thanks for the agreement GK - good to know I'm not completely mad; or if I am you are with me. [Big Grin]

Less crowded, where we're sitting. [Biased]

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A leak, by definition, involves secret information. And secret, in government terms, is not merely "stuff I didn't want you to know". It will be items of a classified nature.
So far as I am aware, nothing that Cheeto has whined about, with Comey or his staff, qualifies as such.

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I would think a private convo with the president might be classified, especially when T made such a big thing of kicking everyone else out of the room. And the notes were work product--about his work, and done while he still had his job. He said that, well, when he gave them to his friend, he was a private citizen, so it should be ok. I think "that dog won't hunt", to borrow a phrase.

Not that I think he should be punished, but there may be legit grounds to do so.

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Possibly some light relief for the UK:
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Donald Trump has told Theresa May in a phone call he does not want to go ahead with a state visit to Britain until the British public supports him coming. The US president said he did not want to come if there were large-scale protests and his remarks in effect put the visit on hold for some time.
From the Guardian, link.

He might have to wait for rather a long time, then. In addition, isn't this another sign of his narcissism which would be dealt a blow with masses of non-adoring crowds? - Very good riddance, I'd say!

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Indeed.

Is it a sign of 'progress' into his tiny mind that The Great Pussygrabbin' Yam is thinking people might just not want him?

[Eek!]

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Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
Do you think the Democrats need to change any policies, as per Bernie's latest speech?

I just recall seeing Hillary veer to the left and disown policies she previously supported (the Pacific Free Trade agreement, for instance) during the selection process. Is that lurch to the left continuing?

...the level of hatred towards Hillary, but was Trump's election in any way a dismissal of where the Democrats were and the policies they pursued (and those they forgot?)? What caused people to stay at home in large numbers? [/QB]

I can't claim to have answers. Lots of people disliked Hillary, for lots of reasons. She swung left because of Bernie not because of change in belief. (Would she has re-endorsed TPP after election? Unknown) MOST (not all) of the people I talk to voted Trump disliking him but what the heck he was a fresh voice even if he talked nonsense sometimes. Some are apologetic, some still waiting to see if he does good but still not wanting Hillary. (I voted Bernie so I'm out of the game.)
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
I would think a private convo with the president might be classified, especially when T made such a big thing of kicking everyone else out of the room.

Again. private=/= classified.
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And the notes were work product--about his work, and done while he still had his job.

Not everything an intelligence agency is classified. Some things that are marked classified would not stand in a court. INAL, but the standard is not an arbitrary one.

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Trump’s too scared to come to the UK. Who says protest doesn’t work?

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Yah Boo! Cowardy, cowardy, orange-coloured custard!

What a pathetic fuckwit he is. Nearly as bad as our own revered 'prime minister'.....

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quote:
Originally posted by Wesley J:
Possibly some light relief for the UK:
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Donald Trump has told Theresa May in a phone call he does not want to go ahead with a state visit to Britain until the British public supports him coming. The US president said he did not want to come if there were large-scale protests and his remarks in effect put the visit on hold for some time.
From the Guardian, link.

He might have to wait for rather a long time, then. In addition, isn't this another sign of his narcissism which would be dealt a blow with masses of non-adoring crowds? - Very good riddance, I'd say!

Poor, sensitive man.

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I see the House Committee have asked the White House to release tapes - if there are any!

Leaking is one of those muddy terms. It covers unauthorised release of classified information, which is illegal, unauthorised release of non-classified but embarrassing information, which may be a dismissable offence, but not prosecutable, or simply breaking a confidence for the sake of embarrassment.

In Trumpspeak, calling Comey a leaker means he should be subject to legal investigation and prosecution if guilty of illegal disclosure. I guess the legal issue is whether all private conversations with the President are by their very nature classified.

Comey's note for the record of his conversations with the President was perfectly legal. Revealing the contents of these notes in his response, under oath, to a House Investigation is highly unlikely to be illegal.

Apparently Sessions is up shortly. Oh what fun that will be.

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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
In Trumpspeak, calling Comey a leaker means he should be subject to legal investigation and prosecution if guilty of illegal disclosure. I guess the legal issue is whether all private conversations with the President are by their very nature classified.

They are not. Nor were Comey's memos classified. On the other hand there is a question of "executive privilege", a somewhat vague legal doctrine most often used by presidents to block subordinates from testifying when such testimony would be embarrassing/incriminating. It doesn't apply here for two reasons. First, Trump essentially waived any privilege when he described the conversations and their content ("While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, . . . ") in a publicly released letter. Second, the time to assert executive privilege is before the testimony is offered.

On the question of tapes, I see three possibilities. They are, in what I view as order of descending likelihood:

  • The tapes don't exist and Trump is trying, ineffectively, to intimidate possible witnesses to his actions.
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  • The tapes exist and back up Comey's version of events. If this is the case we will only hear these tapes via leak, if ever.
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  • Last and least likely is the tapes exist and back Trump's version of events. If that's the case they would already have been released unless there are other, much more incriminating conversations also recorded by the system and admitting such tapes exist might lead to those conversations falling into the hands of Congress/Mueller.

Those are the only possibilities I can think of that make sense.

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Sense! [Killing me] As if that applies to The Orange One.

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Fourth scenario - the tapes exist but are missing 18½ minutes.
[Biased]

(For those too young to remember, or who live elsewhere and didn't follow the U.S. scandals of the 70s, the Watergate tapes had a 18½ minute gap.)

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I read today that: Delta Airlines and Bank of America pulls sponsorship from Julius Caesar

The play casts Caesar as a Trump-like character in an American political setting. It ends with Trump being stabbed in the rotunda by his colleagues. "Stabbed in the Rotunda" was a line from Canadian Comic Duo Wayne & Shuster, who's comedy I enjoyed as a child. If you want to enjoy their comedy as a child, drink three large whiskeys and search youtube for "Rinse the Blood Off My Toga". Actually, do the search before you drink the whiskey.

Personally, I think it is terrible to compare Trump to the great Romans of the past. I reckon if you are going to put Trump into a play, go for something like Bugsy Malone. The guy might think he is important or loved or that he will be fondly remembered in the future. We can't let him think that. It would be a cruel deception.

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@ Croesos

Thanks, Shipmate, very helpful. I knew it was something like that but wasn't sure just how much executive privilege muddied the waters.

Have you seen this story?

As a truthteller about Trump's pressurising, Comey is looking pretty good right now.

BTW, I caught a bit of a Fox "News" show and they are spinning, spinning, spinning the leak accusation for all it is worth. This is now a world of "alternative facts".

[ 12. June 2017, 10:08: Message edited by: Barnabas62 ]

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Mindboggling. Thanks for the link!

However..., with Weird No. 45, mindbogglingness is the everyday rule. At least, it keeps our own minds lean and fit and agile I suppose.

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I feel that my mind is fit enough. Do you remember the good old days (a year ago!) when you did not know who the Attorney General was? Or the Secretary of Education? I doubt I could name those persons if they came up and bit me. We could simply not know, because all the departments and governance were in the hands of competement people. Now, an unnatural vigilance has been forced upon us; we have to defend our rights at every turn.

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I'm ashamed to say that I'm one of those bad immigrants who pays more attention to the politics in the old country than the new one. I can recognize my MP and my MLA, I was privileged to meet our Justice Minister, but I probably recognize more members of Congress than members of Parliament. [Hot and Hormonal]

I did have a lot of fun today asking all my colleagues what they would think if the boss called them in for a private meeting and started off by asking if they liked their job [Eek!] [Ultra confused] [Paranoid] ... and "hoped" you'd do something ... Sorry, Senator Risch, that dog won't hunt.

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quote:
Originally posted by Soror Magna:
I'm ashamed to say that I'm one of those bad immigrants who pays more attention to the politics in the old country than the new one. I can recognize my MP and my MLA, I was privileged to meet our Justice Minister, but I probably recognize more members of Congress than members of Parliament. [Hot and Hormonal]

I did have a lot of fun today asking all my colleagues what they would think if the boss called them in for a private meeting and started off by asking if they liked their job [Eek!] [Ultra confused] [Paranoid] ... and "hoped" you'd do something ... Sorry, Senator Risch, that dog won't hunt.

Are you the boss, Soror magna [Big Grin]

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
I feel that my mind is fit enough. Do you remember the good old days (a year ago!) when you did not know who the Attorney General was? Or the Secretary of Education? I doubt I could name those persons if they came up and bit me. We could simply not know, because all the departments and governance were in the hands of competement people. Now, an unnatural vigilance has been forced upon us; we have to defend our rights at every turn.

Yes.... it's almost painful to remember, isn't it?

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