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RuthW

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quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
[ETA and RuthW how could you possibly omit the continued resistance, in the face of threats, of two courageous female GOP senators throughout this entire process? Or the grassroots campaigning by Indivisible et al?]

Because I was not surprised by those things. Why do you care?
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quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
[ETA and RuthW how could you possibly omit the continued resistance, in the face of threats, of two courageous female GOP senators throughout this entire process? Or the grassroots campaigning by Indivisible et al?]

Because I was not surprised by those things. Why do you care?
Saying "Thanks to John McCain" to the exclusion of anybody else implies nobody else was deserving of thanks.

From this distance, he still looks like a shameless opportunist to me.

For my part, I'm glad to see that the kind of grassroots mobilisation that I expressed a hope of seeing upthread appears to be producing results.

And I reserve the right to care about whatever I like.

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MaryLouise--

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And, in other news, I wonder if Scaramucci has realised it might not be the smartest idea for a new WH communications director to shove an eensy bit too much cocaine up your nose before calling a reporter on the New Yorker and speaking your mind, obscenities included?

We need to bring back Rahm Emmanuel, who was on Obama's staff. He had quite a temper and quite a mouth. He left, and IIRC became mayor of Chicago. Would be fun to put R in a room with S, get them talking, and televise it. For hours, if necessary.
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quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:

From this distance, he still looks like a shameless opportunist to me.

So more along these lines:

https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2017/07/a-long-time-senate-staffer-on-john-mccain/535050/

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RuthW

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Originally posted by Eutychus:
Saying "Thanks to John McCain" to the exclusion of anybody else implies nobody else was deserving of thanks.

It's not what I meant to imply. Collins and Murkowski stood firm all week, as you noted -- so that made McCain's vote the one that put the thing over the edge. I don't feel bad about not giving credit to Indivisible and others agitating against this whole thing, given that I was one of them.

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From this distance, he still looks like a shameless opportunist to me.[/qb]
Could be. Hard to say. He's got a bad brain cancer, and is very unlikely to live long enough to come up for re-election. He might have been looking to his legacy. He might have liked the attention; he did refer to the vote as "the show."

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[b]For my part, I'm glad to see that the kind of grassroots mobilisation that I expressed a hope of seeing upthread appears to be producing results.

You've been very dubious about the Democrats and their message for 2018 and 2020 -- have you seen their new thing? "A Better Deal"

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And I reserve the right to care about whatever I like.
I didn't question your right to care; I simply wondered why you did.

[ 28. July 2017, 08:33: Message edited by: RuthW ]

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quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
I don't feel bad about not giving credit to Indivisible and others agitating against this whole thing, given that I was one of them.

Good on you. Sincerely. I'd like to think I'd be doing the same thing in your place.

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You've been very dubious about the Democrats and their message for 2018 and 2020 -- have you seen their new thing? "A Better Deal"
Sounds promising. Perhaps they're reading this thread [Biased]

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I didn't question your right to care; I simply wondered why you did.
Firstly, I have a tangential knowledge of public health and believe universal health care to be a good thing both morally and economically.

Secondly, I fear the train crash of the current US administration is likely to have knock-on consequences not only in terms of stability for the rest of the world, but also in terms of what is deemed acceptable (and even "successful") behaviour for office-holders.

Thirdly, the cognitive dissonance generated by people known to me who I otherwise believe to be decent and God-fearing individuals apparently thinking that this kind of thing deserves their unremitting support is getting to me.

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quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
I feel like sending the transcript of the Scaramucci interview to some of my acquaintances who are US evangelical GOP faithful and inviting them to respond.

Please do! It will make for very interesting reading.

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God bless John McCain, Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski.

Now can the CiC be stopped from persecuting transgender folk WHO ARE PREPARED TO DIE FOR THEIR COUNTRY?! Fucker. (That's self loathing too of course, not so long ago I wouldn't have let women or gays serve). And I should pray for this man?! WHAT?! What can I pray for this world leader, this most powerful of men?

[ 28. July 2017, 13:28: Message edited by: Martin60 ]

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Pray for the strength to forgive him.

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In a fictional context I invented an award, the Iron Ovary. It is awarded to women of notable courage -- I envision it as a lapel pin. Some friends and I are ginning to make this a real thing, and the two Senators are going to be the first recipients. (There will be an Iron Ovary Second Class, to be awarded to men with the courage of women, later.)

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She is the Murkowski who won an election as a write-in candidate isn't she? If so, she doesn't have much to fear from disendorsement.

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quote:
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Pray for the strength to forgive him.

Perfect.

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quote:
Originally posted by Martin60:

Now can the CiC be stopped from persecuting transgender folk WHO ARE PREPARED TO DIE FOR THEIR COUNTRY?! Fucker.

A spineless bastard who used deferments and ouchy feet to avoid the military.

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Well, the generals (mentioned by Trump in his tweet) are actually saying they will wait until they get actual orders (via chain of command) and also saying that they want to treat everyone who serves with respect.

Trump still doesn't seem to get that tweeting does not make policy, and he doesn't seem to understand chain of command, either (among the many, many, "billions and billions" of things he doesn't understand)

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quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
In a fictional context I invented an award, the Iron Ovary. It is awarded to women of notable courage -- I envision it as a lapel pin. Some friends and I are ginning to make this a real thing, and the two Senators are going to be the first recipients. (There will be an Iron Ovary Second Class, to be awarded to men with the courage of women, later.)

Something to aspire to!

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Instead of "A Better Deal", what would be a better slogan for the Democrats heading into 2018 and 2020?

How about "Competent Government"?

Or "Return to Sanity"?

Or "Abandon the Dark Side"?

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quote:
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She is the Murkowski who won an election as a write-in candidate isn't she? If so, she doesn't have much to fear from disendorsement.

Yes, in 2010. Plus she's not up for re-election until 2022. She's also the daughter of Frank Murkowski, who held the Senate seat she now occupies immediately prior to her. The Murkowskis are to Alaskan politics what the Kennedys are to Massachusetts politics. So no, she doesn't have much to fear from the Trump administration.

On the other hand, the Trump administration might have something to fear from her.

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quote:
Originally posted by HCH:
Instead of "A Better Deal", what would be a better slogan for the Democrats heading into 2018 and 2020?

How about "Competent Government"?

Or "Return to Sanity"?

Or "Abandon the Dark Side"?

No, no, and no. The Democrats need to start being FOR something and not just "at least we're not those other guys."

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I hear you. What would be a better slogan?
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Make America Work for Everybody

This Land is Our Land

We take Care of Our Own

Moving Forward Together

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quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
The damage these people are doing to their office is unbelievable. I feel like sending the transcript of the Scaramucci interview to some of my acquaintances who are US evangelical GOP faithful and inviting them to respond.

At least now we know what happens when you "drain the swamp"--the slime comes to the top.

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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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Originally posted by mousethief:
We take Care of Our Own

Surely that's the current unpublished slogan of the Republican Party. [Ultra confused]

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Shameless attention seekers or not, all three R no votes got hand-written thank you notes from me today. I'm sure that alone will make it all worthwhile.

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Eutychus
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Looks like Priebus is out.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
We take Care of Our Own

Surely that's the current unpublished slogan of the Republican Party. [Ultra confused]
He might have been thinking of this.

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Looks like Priebus is out.

Rats tossed from a sinking ship? I suspect Scaramoush_scaramoush will one day embody the maxim of Matthew 26:52 or Genesis 31 ... a nasty piece of work it seems and there will be many more tears yet.

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Eutychus
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I've been thinking more along the lines of Mark 3:25 of late.

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quote:
Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan:
Shameless attention seekers or not, all three R no votes got hand-written thank you notes from me today. I'm sure that alone will make it all worthwhile.

Excellent idea. Must track down some stationery.

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Martin60
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Has it always been this mental? Has there ever been a president this un-presidential? I mean I LOVE Lincoln. FDR. Kennedy. Johnson. Warts and Nams and all. Even Reagan had some very smart people, as did Bush Jnr. who actually had charm. And was marginally less insane than Johnson. What is this 3rd rate loser going to do about North Korea?

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This is very very unusual. Longtime professional observers are in agreement on this. I could find you links, but it's everywhere.
My son (who follows this even more closely than I do) reports that the latest trajectory, now that Priebus is gone, is for a White House at war with its own Congress. There is now now channel from one end of Pennsylvania Avenue to the other. This will, naturally, work out great; the historical precedent is Tyler, who refused to be of either party and so got nothing done.

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"Nothing done" may be the best we can now hope for.

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Brenda Clough
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This is a free click, columnist Frank Rich's blog. I think he has hold of the real secret. Pondering all the foofaraw of this week (my God, do you realize how much has happened?!?) he notes:
"At this juncture the priorities of Donald Trump have winnowed down to a single agenda item: saving himself and his family from legal culpability for their campaign interactions with the Russians and their efforts to cover up those transactions ever since. Almost everything this president does must be viewed through this single lens. If you do so, you’ll find his actions usually make sense."

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quote:
Originally posted by simontoad:
Pray for the strength to forgive him.

And for him to get the help and healing he needs. And for him to go to the place of his highest good--which, certainly, isn't the White House.

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quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
This is a free click, columnist Frank Rich's blog. I think he has hold of the real secret. Pondering all the foofaraw of this week (my God, do you realize how much has happened?!?) he notes:
"At this juncture the priorities of Donald Trump have winnowed down to a single agenda item: saving himself and his family from legal culpability for their campaign interactions with the Russians and their efforts to cover up those transactions ever since. Almost everything this president does must be viewed through this single lens. If you do so, you’ll find his actions usually make sense."

He's got right up the nose of some of the very best people in America. The very best. And they're nasty! Oh! They are nasty people!

I wait in hope for a comeuppance of the uuugest proportions, so that America can become the fairest nation on earth.

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simontoad--

You just want it to become "the fairest nation on Earth" so that we don't all immigrate to Oz. (Canada will be full up.)
[Biased]

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quote:
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He's got right up the nose of some of the very best people in America. The very best. And they're nasty! Oh! They are nasty people!

Sad.

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Someone needs to give T a child's toy cell phone that seems real, but doesn't actually send anything.

ETA: Also a full set of Legos and Lego people, and a wide variety of blocks and building kits, so he can replace whoever he wants, and play with that silly wall.

[ 29. July 2017, 07:07: Message edited by: Golden Key ]

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quote:
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Sad.

Given the way it was reported on our news this morning it feels to me as if Mr. t is tightening his grip on power.

As much as we ain't seen nothin' yet, many are wondering just how long this will remain the case. Particularly as Ol' Kim over there is evermore hellbent on prodding a sleeping Giant.

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I cling to the Constitution and the other two arms of Government Royln. I don't think he's angling for a royalist revolution, but having been just listening to the story of the restored Bourbon Monarchy in France, Trump seems to be drawing inspiration from King Charles X the Simple.

Just for clarification, I listened in Australia, not France.

In response to an earlier comment, I personally welcome any and all refugees from the States. It's too cold in Canada. [Smile]

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quote:
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Thanks to John McCain. I'm so happy to have been so wrong.

Me too and I've been bad-mouthing McCain for many years. Maybe it is possible for people to change, maybe he's actually become the noble person he was only pretending to be for so long.
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Well, maybe we've not got long to wait now for Armageddon, orchestrated by Kim Wrong-Trim and The Odious Orange Ozymandias:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-40760583

Perhaps someone needs to buy TOOO his pretend cell-phone, and his Lego, NOW.

Mind you, I'm not sure I believe what K W-T says, any more than I believe what TOOO says.

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No, I think Some Trusted White House Advisor (assuming that's not an oxymoron) needs to suggest that 44.2 invite himself to go to North Korea for a deal-making session ("I make the best deals!") with Mr. Kim One Point Two.

With a bit of luck, Kim will jail the Orange Orangutan as a Western spy and Christian missionary, and return him to us only when in extremis.

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When he, Mr. Kim, is in extremis , or when Ozymandias himself is in extremis?

IYSWIM.

I'm not sure even Mr. Kim, egregious fruitcake though he be, deserves to have Ozymandias on his hands....

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quote:
Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
When he, Mr. Kim, is in extremis , or when Ozymandias himself is in extremis?

IJ

I was assuming that the elder whacko, deprived of steak, ketchup, and hair stylist, would languish first, but you have a point. Having 44.2 on your hands for more than 24 hours would be exhausting, as we all now know to our sorrow.

On reflection, I'm not sure it matters publicly who reaches the in extremis goalpost first. Perhaps they could compete?

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I forget who it was, somewhere on one of these US presidency boards, who suggested that activism, marching with pussy hats, etc. was unlikely to make any difference.
Here you go, a nice story about what made the difference this week.
A quote: "But the critical mass of opposition came from liberal groups that had never been so threatened or so organized. MoveOn, battle-hardened by the effort to prevent (and then end) the war in Iraq, ran an aggressive protest and media campaign, including tens of thousands of calls to congressional offices and a series of rallies in swing states that featured Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

They were matched by tens of thousands of more calls from a constellation of groups and by protests organized by everything from ADAPT, a disability rights organization, to the Democratic Socialists of America. Planned Parenthood, which was threatened with zeroed-out federal funding if repeal succeeded, organized nationally and hyper-locally, with key states quickly growing their activist networks.

Here is a second similar story which is a free click.

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The more, the merrier, so it is said.

Hopefully, Ozymandias will soon be reduced to the two vast and trunkless legs of stone...

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I was reading a Slate piece about the euphemisms the media have been using to describe Scaramucci's sexual vulgarities.

I wish there was some way that every conservative Christian who voted for Trump could be forced to read only the non-bowdlerized versions of those articles. I mean, this is what they VOTED for, right? These are the guys they wanted the whole country to listen to for eight years.

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Dear God no. FOUR years. FOUR. Or fewer if possible.

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quote:
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I forget who it was, somewhere on one of these US presidency boards, who suggested that activism, marching with pussy hats, etc. was unlikely to make any difference.

I expressed doubt about the impact of pussy hats on the perpetrator.*

Activism with regard to healthcare seems a bit different to me.

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*I like the idea of the Iron Ovary awards, though, and the Iron Ovary (Second Class) ones too. Not least because they assert something overhwhelmingly positive in a delightfully subversive way.

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From the POST, the devil discusses the details of the contract with one of his customers.

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