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Brenda Clough
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John Pavlovitz pounds the pulpit and preaches a superb come-to-Jesus sermon for evangelical Crooked Don supporters.

And on a lighter note, an analysis of the First Lady and her Christmas decorations. Elswhere on the web there has been some great commentary, about that icy dark hallway with a gleam of light at the end. The metaphor cries out to be made, does it not?

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Seriously creepy, that hallway.... [Paranoid]

'Godless and bristling' sums it up.

No sign of Christ .........

Poor woman - 'Melancholia' suits her better as a name.

[Disappointed]

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I’ve never seen such a false, forced smile [Frown]

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And you should know that those photographs/vids are the ones released by the White House.
There's not only a 'free Melania' meme running around, but a not-entirely-joking rumor that she is occasionally replaced by a body double. All of this generated, of course by her passive affect and voicelessness.

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Just to lighten the mood, Barack Obama at the lighting of the National Christmas Tree.

Not a bad little homily for the Feast of Christ the King...

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Just to lighten the mood, Barack Obama at the lighting of the National Christmas Tree.

Not a bad little homily for the Feast of Christ the King...

IJ

That was wonderful -- thank you for posting it.
[Tear]

(That was about three weeks after our "election" of Trump.)

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I miss him so much.

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I can't find an image on-line, but a friend sent me a realistic-looking mock-up of a TIME Magazine Person of the Year cover -- with Robert Mueller!
[Killing me]

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Lord, have mercy.

I do really, really hope that there is a sufficiently unpleasant circle in Hell for the Moores, Trumps, and all others who prey on women and/or children.

And it will be really real to them.

Bastards.

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Ivanka said as much (in a tweet, IIRC). She didn't mention her father. But he is not amused. Possibly because she's publicly going against his support of Moore.

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It shouldn’t be forgotten that Daddy himself has been accused of behaviour around minors that is creepy at best (walking into the changing room at beauty pageants).

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Kyrie Eleison indeed... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-britain-first-retweet-muslim-migrants-jayda-fransen -deputy-leader-a8082001.html

He might as well go full KKK.

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Truly, America (and the world) is in deep brown cacky...

Is there no way some heroic geek can disable The Gruesome Gropo's Twitter account? Permanently?

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Is there no way some heroic geek can disable The Gruesome Gropo's Twitter account? Permanently?

IJ

And to think that just less than nine years ago, the National Security Agency was concerned about President Obama keeping his Blackberry.

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Quite.

But aren't President Pottyarse's tweets etc. subject to law in any way? Are they preserved for ever, to be used as evidence eventually?

Anyway, his alignment with 'Britain First' shows him in his true colours, as Karl has said. When will he declare publicly his membership of KKK?

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It breaks Twitter's terms of service - but Twitter does nothing about it. Presumably because of all the eyeballs it brings to their advertising.

I suppose we knew already that Trump is a racist and white supremacist, but seeing him retweet actual known British fascists from a group implicated in poisoning the mind of the man who murdered Jo Cox is like watching someone run up a swastika flag on the Whitehouse.

[ 29. November 2017, 13:17: Message edited by: Louise ]

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Yes, I think we knew already what an evil, racist bastard The Gruesome Grabber is. This latest infamy just confirms it even further, if that's possible.

Any sign of a response yet from the so-called government of Ukland? Or our esteemed Foreign Secretary, BoJo the Thatched?

No?

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Anyway, his alignment with 'Britain First' shows him in his true colours, as Karl has said. When will he declare publicly his membership of KKK?

The Klan is a secret society ("the Invisible Empire"), so aside from designated spokesracists Klansmen don't publicly declare their membership. (Hence the hoods.) That noted, about three months ago Trump described Nazis and Klansmen as "very fine people".

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Fair point - but I think The Fuckwit-of-Fuckwit's remarks anent Nazis etc. say it all.

A Hellish thought - does he wear the hood, when alone in the White House with Melancholia?

I'll get me cloak...

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Any sign of a response yet from the so-called government of Ukland? Or our esteemed Foreign Secretary, BoJo the Thatched?

No?

IJ

Well you see as a consequence of 'taking back control' we now cower in the face of the fascists we're desperately cosying up to for trade deals. And sadly the people most responsible for this are often the very people who squawk loudest about whether we've all been wearing our poppies.

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Downing Street's reaction to Gropo's latest outpouring of shite.

It's 'wrong'.
[Disappointed]

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By a 'spokesperson' in a press briefing - May hasn't got the backbone to go on camera and condemn Trump herself, but she was happy to be filmed holding his hand and sucking up to him in Washington for all the world to see. And according to Laura Kuenssberg of the BBC plans for a state visit are still in place.

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[Projectile]

A plague on May and Gropo both.

Also on 'Britain First', of course.

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BTW, the BBC shares with us this image of The Pottyarse
which somehow depicts his general awfulness.

YMMV.

(This photo may be NSFW, depending on whether you are eating or drinking when you view it).

[Projectile]

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
Lord, have mercy.

I do really, really hope that there is a sufficiently unpleasant circle in Hell for the Moores, Trumps, and all others who prey on women and/or children.

And it will be really real to them.

Bastards.

IJ

Ivanka said as much (in a tweet, IIRC). She didn't mention her father. But he is not amused. Possibly because she's publicly going against his support of Moore.
This is a common pattern from Ivanka, and to a lesser degree, Melania. We often get these sorts of counter-messages, but never ever a direct challenge. They will each say/tweet things completely contrary to the actions or words of Donald, but without ever expressly acknowledging that. And always with such a bland, expressionless countenance that gives away nothing (unlike the more transparently unfiltered words/expressions of the Trump boys).

It's a curious pattern. One wonders if they are hostages to their own self-interest, able only in these curiously indirect ways to signal their disagreement? Or are they simply clueless/isolated enough to realize how off-point their message sounds? Ivanka's recent book seems to suggest the latter, but even that may be the muted cry for help of the former.

I have zero interest in a future Donald bio. But if any biographer is ever able to crack Ivanka's shell enough to get at that question, I would find it fascinating.

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Ivanka said as much (in a tweet, IIRC). She didn't mention her father. But he is not amused. Possibly because she's publicly going against his support of Moore.

This is a common pattern from Ivanka, and to a lesser degree, Melania. We often get these sorts of counter-messages, but never ever a direct challenge. They will each say/tweet things completely contrary to the actions or words of Donald, but without ever expressly acknowledging that. And always with such a bland, expressionless countenance that gives away nothing (unlike the more transparently unfiltered words/expressions of the Trump boys).

It's a curious pattern. One wonders if they are hostages to their own self-interest, able only in these curiously indirect ways to signal their disagreement? Or are they simply clueless/isolated enough to realize how off-point their message sounds? Ivanka's recent book seems to suggest the latter, but even that may be the muted cry for help of the former.

This has long been the designated role for female family members of Republican holding elected office; providing some soft-focus disagreements with their husband's (or, more rarely, father's) more crazy or cruel public positions. Thus people arguing that George Bush (senior) can't be really that anti-woman because Barbara Bush (his wife, not his granddaughter) is somewhat pro-choice. In other words, it's a fairly transparent exercise in public relations that doesn't affect actual policy decisions at all.

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Yes, the women can say what they want (or, in Melania's case, say what she is told to say) and the menfolks do what they want. Do not pity Ivanka; she's busily feathering her nest as fast as she can. When Dad goes to jail or into a rest home she will have all the money -- they're gutting tax laws so that she can inherit.

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Brenda said:
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When Dad goes to jail or into a rest home...
O may that day be not long delayed (though spare a thought for the rest home staff).

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Oh, forgot to add Richard Cohen in the Post pointing out Crooked Don's increasing nuttiness. This is one of two pieces in today's paper arguing that he's rapidly spinning off the merry-go-round.

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Should be any day now.

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Yes, his head will probably implode, releasing tons of artificial hair into the atmosphere, adding to the Chinese myth about global warming.

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Or do I mean explode?

Whatever...

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It's empty, so implosion is probably what would happen.

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That was my first thought. Either way, the sooner this false, evil, malevolent, Groping Git goes, the better for all of us.

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quote:
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By a 'spokesperson' in a press briefing - May hasn't got the backbone to go on camera and condemn Trump herself, but she was happy to be filmed holding his hand and sucking up to him in Washington for all the world to see. And according to Laura Kuenssberg of the BBC plans for a state visit are still in place.

Um...we had a clip on the news here: middle-aged woman, outside a building (maybe 10 Downing St.?), who was asked her opinion. She said "the president shouldn't have done this". (Close to a quote.)

I thought that was Ms. May.

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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The Golden Toad knows that the jig may be up over Russia. So he wants an image to distract people. It's his naked girl covered in napalm, if it's not his 5 marines raising a flag, except it's all pseudo-Muslims invented by a British Hitler maidchen. We is going to need pills.

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BBC breaking news is that Trump has tweeted at our prime minister telling her to focus on radical Islamic terrorism in the UK.

So the special relationship is going well ...

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A Sioux leader has spoken out about T's behavior with the Code Talkers (Yahoo).

His statement ends with:

quote:
I have one for him, leave the office you bought and take your swamp things with you.
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Ann Coulter just insulted the intelligence of every person listening to the flagship morning radio programme.

That sound you can hear across the atlantic was the sound of millions of facepalms.

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Still. Here's one positive: when the fascists stand up, they look ridiculous.

Point and laugh, point and laugh at the silly woman talking shite. She doesn't like it.

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Not sure I want to know what she said. Scrub that, I'm sure I don't.

The man cannot admit he got something wrong, can he?

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I genuinely don't think he can tell the difference between truth and lies. Yesterday he was trying to pretend that he hadn't said the infamous things he said about women.

Even though he'd admitted them and apologised for them.

And there are a pack of neo-fascists who are willing to amplify his agenda in the media. The respectable face of fascism.

It'll be fun when he comes to visit. I suspect the whole country will take the day off to pull moonies as his presidential motorcade passes.

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The me me me me ME ME ME president is suddenly tweeting ‘Don’t focus on me’ - and we all know why.

His day of reckoning is at hand.

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la vie en rouge
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There’s nothing new about El Presidente denying saying things in the face of clear video evidence to the contrary. He’s been doing it for ages.

It’s his standard modus operandi and the classic tactic of the gaslighting abuser. What do you believe? What (you think) you saw or what I tell you? What’s terrifying about Trump is that he is trying to gaslight the whole world.

(PS please please please moon him. It would be so delightfully English of you.)

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I think the best advice on Trump is:
quote:
Don't listen to what he says, but watch what he does.
(Can't find a reliable source for who said it first about him, but I think it's spot on).

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Originally posted by Eutychus:
(Can't find a reliable source for who said it first about him, but I think it's spot on).

It seems to have many different origins. When used about Trump, it seems some think it originated with McMaster.

But it's been a phrase bouncing around the US political classes for a long time. It was said about Obama in 2009 and 2010... and so on.

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It's all the more apposite for Trump in that as a con artist, the function of his communication is to serve as a distraction from his actions and those of the legislative branch that helped put him there.

[ 30. November 2017, 09:21: Message edited by: Eutychus ]

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Originally posted by Eutychus:
It's all the more apposite for Trump in that as a con artist, the function of his communication is to serve as a distraction from his actions and those of the legislative branch that helped put him there.

Yep. It’s a dead cat strategy.

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Originally posted by la vie en rouge:

(PS please please please moon him. It would be so delightfully English of you.)

Well many people went out on the streets and rang bells when Thatcher died. I hope they moon him en masse too.

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Trump is a knave and a rogue: that much was clear long before he became POTUS and there was clear evidence of his lying and bullying here in the UK if our politicians had only chosen to look at his behaviour in Scotland.

The decision to announce an invitation to make a state visit so soon after he gained the presidency was not just unseemly in its haste, it was plain wrong. Quite apart from his behaviour now, a state visit is not some cheap smartie to be handed over to pacify a bolshy child, it is recognition not only of the state represented by the person making the visit but also of the actions of the person representing that state. You'd have thought that HMG might have learned from previous "tainted" recipients of state visits - I'm thinking Ceausescu, Mugabe, Hirohito, Putin - to be more circumspect.

IMO while the US have as head of state someone who tweets incontinently and shows little, if any, grasp of standard politesse there should be no state visit.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
That was my first thought. Either way, the sooner this false, evil, malevolent, Groping Git goes, the better for all of us.

IJ

Only 7 years and 2 months to go. Unless he does an FDR of course.

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