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Bishops Finger
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You mean - die suddenly?
Well, that might happen, though not necessarily due to the same cause.
A nice long spell in jail would be a more satisfactory solution, I think.
IJ
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Brenda Clough
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No no. Stay strong. It is 330 days or so, to the 2018 election. We need to flip the House. Then, many many hearings can be held. Tax hearings. Impeachment hearings. Discussions on shameless malfeasance and the egregious enriching of relatives. He's not going to last to 2020 and that's how we'll do it.
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Bishops Finger
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Pray God you are right.
Meanwhile, our Esteemed and Beloved Great Leader has pronounced her Verdict on Gropo's latest Infamy as reported by the BBC.
Looks like we may be stuck with a state visit after all, but with any luck, the route of the motorcade will either be completely empty, or lined with bare bums and pink pussyhats...in which case the Grabber-in-Chief will probably brag that it's the bigliest display of bums he's seen since he last gatecrashed a changing-room.
IJ
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Brenda Clough
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There are knitters in Britain, otherwise I would offer to knit pussyhats for you. Get going on the needlework now. Hats for women, men can moon him, and the kiddies can hold protest signs. Oh, and I count upon many a hilarious meme and YouTube video. He can't stand to be laughed at, remember that -- like the devil.
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mr cheesy
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quote: Originally posted by Brenda Clough: There are knitters in Britain, otherwise I would offer to knit pussyhats for you. Get going on the needlework now. Hats for women, men can moon him, and the kiddies can hold protest signs. Oh, and I count upon many a hilarious meme and YouTube video. He can't stand to be laughed at, remember that -- like the devil.
I think we'll have to find our own cultural ways to protest. I love the idea of knitting-as-protest, I'm not sure whether the things that worked in the US would work here.
But you are right, it would take a bit of organising.
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mr cheesy
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quote: Originally posted by la vie en rouge: We’re counting on you cheesy – get going with organising that bare-bottomed protest now. Mostly pasty white English ones, I suppose, although if you can round up some ethnic minority bottoms, that would quite appropriate.
I strongly suspect that if he came anywhere around here, there wouldn't need to be any organising of a mooning protest. I think that'd happen.
Elsewhere in the UK, I'm not so sure - but if it started in one place it would quickly spread as a thing.
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mr cheesy
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But, to continue that thought, there would need to be some organising of other kinds of protest which didn't involve pissed-up young men.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by mr cheesy: quote: Originally posted by la vie en rouge: We’re counting on you cheesy – get going with organising that bare-bottomed protest now. Mostly pasty white English ones, I suppose, although if you can round up some ethnic minority bottoms, that would quite appropriate.
I strongly suspect that if he came anywhere around here, there wouldn't need to be any organising of a mooning protest. I think that'd happen.
Elsewhere in the UK, I'm not so sure - but if it started in one place it would quickly spread as a thing.
We could simply turn our back on him. No need to disrobe on a potentially cold, damp day, but that would hurt an attention whore just as much.
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mr cheesy
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Of course, it would also be relatively simple to close down the transportation system in this country so he couldn't get anywhere.
Truckers closed everything down for the fuel protests, I think a few strategic organised actions would make a "visit" impossible.
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Brenda Clough
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You don't want to do that. Because then Crooked Don would just say that all his millions and millions of British supporters were merely unable to attend and cheer him, due to a few malcontents who bollixed up the transportation. Remember, he believes he won the popular vote; only the millions of illegal voters somehow denied it to him (in a way that doesn't quite stand up to logic, because if there were that many voting for Hillary why didn't she win? But logic has no place here.) Don't give him a chance to create his own egotistical reality. He needs to -see- the disapprobation, ideally while sitting in the limo or horse-drawn carriage and unable to escape.
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Martin60
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quote: Originally posted by mr cheesy: Of course, it would also be relatively simple to close down the transportation system in this country so he couldn't get anywhere.
Truckers closed everything down for the fuel protests, I think a few strategic organised actions would make a "visit" impossible.
OH yes! I would sign up to sit down on the Mall or anywhere else on route. Not bare arsed tho'.
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Gramps49
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Look for Impeachment Marches on 20 January 2018.
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RuthW
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The second annual Women's March is January 20, 2018.
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Martin60
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Wow! I didn't realise his days are so numbered!
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Brenda Clough
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I have many of my old protest signs from last year. Alas, my knee went out in the spring and I may no longer be able to march for nine hours straight. However, d.v., I'll be there. Also, I live on the Metro line. Anyone who plans to come to Washington to protest and needs crash space, pm me.
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Crœsos
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So this makes four indictments (so far) of members of the Trump campaign or administration.
quote: Former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn will plead guilty Friday to "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI about conversations with Russia's ambassador, according to court documents.
Flynn's guilty plea will also mark the first conviction of a member of the Trump administration. (Papadopoulos, who plead guilty earlier, was involved with the campaign but not a member of the administration.) [ 01. December 2017, 15:02: Message edited by: Crœsos ]
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cliffdweller
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quote: Originally posted by Crœsos: So this makes four indictments (so far) of members of the Trump campaign or administration.
quote: Former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn will plead guilty Friday to "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI about conversations with Russia's ambassador, according to court documents.
Flynn's guilty plea will also mark the first conviction of a member of the Trump administration. (Papadopoulos, who plead guilty earlier, was involved with the campaign but not a member of the administration.)
It also appears to be an indicator that he has turned states evidence. Which means someone higher up is in Mueller's sights.
Now the race is on-- can Congress pass the one thing they're really after-- the horrific tax bill-- before the whole house of cards comes down? I'm convinced the GOP could care less about Trump and his insane shenanigans, he is a useful idiot distracting the country from the real agenda-- tax reform which will complete the transformation of America back to a mideval fiefdom where the serfs are dependent upon their overlords for their very lives.
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Og, King of Bashan
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Getting to be squeaky bum time on the tax bill, from what I understand. Corker, Collins, and Flake may be able to derail it. I’m not overly optimistic, but what a day it would prove to be...
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Og, King of Bashan
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Reading reports that Flake is a yes, based on some weak promise that he can get a seat at the table on DACA reform.
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Pigwidgeon
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quote: Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan: Getting to be squeaky bum time on the tax bill, from what I understand. Corker, Collins, and Flake may be able to derail it. I’m not overly optimistic, but what a day it would prove to be...
Flake has flaked out, as has McCain.
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Martin60
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Flynn. Kushner. Any day now.
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Pigwidgeon
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quote: Originally posted by Martin60: Flynn. Kushner. Any day now.
So Trump may actually be keeping a campaign promise -- the swamp might be getting drained.
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Golden Key
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quote: Originally posted by Pigwidgeon: quote: Originally posted by Martin60: Flynn. Kushner. Any day now.
So Trump may actually be keeping a campaign promise -- the swamp might be getting drained.
After T's nastiness while meeting with the Navajo code talkers, a Sioux leader said something to the effect of "Mr. Trump, leave the office that you bought, take your swamp things, and go home".
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quote: Originally posted by Pigwidgeon: So Trump may actually be keeping a campaign promise -- the swamp might be getting drained.
Totally illiterated.
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simontoad
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come in spinner.
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Ian Climacus
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Are they seriously putting out a bill with handwritten amendments? This gets more and more strange. Seems they are in a rush. I wonder why?
(/rhetorical q)
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Pigwidgeon
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quote: Originally posted by Ian Climacus: Are they seriously putting out a bill with handwritten amendments?
Probably using crayons. And fighting over who gets which color.
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Golden Key
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Karl--
Oh, yes, T has been milking that situation for some time. Fits with his "dangerous immigrants!" narrative.
That was such a strange murder case. The gun belonged to a law-enforcement ranger. It was unsecured in his unattended parked car. Someone stole it. The ranger was never disciplined for it--he was promoted several months later. The defense's story is basically that Mr. Zarate was sitting along the Embarcadero; found the gun, wrapped under his seat; not knowing what it was, he started to unwrap it; and it went off. The bullet ricocheted quite a distance, and hit Ms. Steinle. The jury evidently agreed. However, he was convicted of being a felon in possession of a gun. Hardly fair, I think, if he really had just then found the gun and picked it up.
He didn't have a violent history. He is a felon, due to some non-violent drug offenses. The only sane reason to say it was due to immigration is that he'd been deported several times.
Here's a good article from KQED, one of our local public broadcasting stations, from October. It mentions that the Feds messed up in handling him, and that's why he was in SF.
And here are links to relevant articles from SF Gate, a division of the SF Chronicle.
Looks like a whole bunch of people are up in arms that he was mostly acquitted. Viral demand to boycott SF, etc.
FYI.
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simontoad
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I love how people outside a courtroom always know better than those who were inside.
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Golden Key
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simontoad--
Um, is that directed at me?
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Bishops Finger
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Forget everything else that's going on.
Latest from the BBC re the USA and North Korea.
What price Armageddon, before the New Year?
With Gropolini The Gruesome in charge......
IJ
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simontoad
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quote: Originally posted by Golden Key: simontoad--
Um, is that directed at me?
No no. Just all those people everywhere who always reckon the Jury got it wrong.
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Golden Key
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simontoad--
Oh, THEM!
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Ian Climacus
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Jerusalem.
Why has the plan to affirm it as the capital even got out there? I do not believe they can be serious. Are they? Or is putting it out a smoke-screen for somethimg else?
Part of me thinks countries can choose any damn capital they want; we built one. But another part of me says that particukar patch of land has a teeny bit of history around it...that continues to this day.
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Eutychus
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1. Attempt to fulfil a campaign promise to pander to his con-evo base at no perceptible economic cost to the latter.
2. Deflection from Mueller probe.
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Golden Key
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Re Jerusalem:
AIUI, Palestinians consider it their capital, too, and I think they've specified (sharing?) that in some list of wants/demands.
So throwing the weight of the US toward the Israeli claim would cut the Palestinians, too.
It doesn't necessarily have to be to placate Christian con-evos. Could also be Jews. Jared Kushner, Ivanka's husband, in Jewish, and Ivanka converted. T is trying the usual presidential project of "oh, let's fix that Israel and Palestine mess--**I** can do it". And Jared went over there, some time back, to try. Not sure if it did any good. Given the Jerusalem business, I'm guessing it didn't.
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Og, King of Bashan
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In a pair of tweets this morning, Trump has explicitly endorsed accused child predator Roy Moore.
This is a day after Mitch McConnel backtracked from previous statements suggesting that Moore should step down, now preferring the President’s old line, the voters in Alabama should decide.
No word from my state’s Republican senator, who initially said that Moore should be removed from the Senate if elected. But we can probably guess now that it won’t happen.
If you are holding out hope that congressional Republicans might possibly step up if Trump crosses some hypothetical line, I’d abandon it.
Hell, I’d bet Donnie could fire Mueller today and nothing will happen to him. Friday news dump? Don’t be shocked.
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Brenda Clough
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No, it's always been difficult to picture the Pussygrabber In Chief failing to endorse Moore. They'll have such good times in Washington, sharing so many interests!
330 days to Election Day 2018....
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CBC News on Radio One had 71% of Alabama people think that this Moore person is a victim of false news and invention re having sex with girls when he was in his 30s. There was other less polite commentary, meant in humour, about the Hillbilly Riviera, intellectual level due to inbreeding. drinking a lot of alcohol, praying for your pubescent cousin to have sex with you, and that their election of this Moore person will occur on Toothless Tuesday. Humour works best when it contains some truth.
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Brenda Clough
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Because he's over 70 years old and too old to change. Because he was born in the generation where fast food was considered great food. Because he believes he is immortal, immune to all the rules and strictures that we mortals have to adhere to. Because he is a vast sucking void, the black hole at the center of the universe, that needs to be eternally filled and yet can never be, doomed to perpetual hunger and dissatisfaction no matter what new, younger, hotter wife he acquires, what pillars he gilds, what good things he destroys. Look on his works, ye mighty! There, I knew if I kept on swinging at it I'd hit it out of the park.
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Marvin the Martian
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Meh. Fancy Cordon Bleu stuff is all well and good, but sometimes you just want a cheeseburger and fries.
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Og, King of Bashan
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The Jim Gaffigan McDonald's bit is always worth a listen when the subject of McDonalds shame comes up.
I try not to tell anyone what to not get upset about today, and yeah, I'd use the White House kitchen differently, but this is low on my list of reasons to think Trump is bad for the country.
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Golden Key
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quote: Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...: CBC News on Radio One had 71% of Alabama people think that this Moore person is a victim of false news and invention re having sex with girls when he was in his 30s. There was other less polite commentary, meant in humour, about the Hillbilly Riviera, intellectual level due to inbreeding. drinking a lot of alcohol, praying for your pubescent cousin to have sex with you, and that their election of this Moore person will occur on Toothless Tuesday. Humour works best when it contains some truth.
FYI: I believe that Southerners take great offense at that kind of humor.
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