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Belle Ringer
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Trump said he would tear down the traditions by which this country is governed. I didn't hear but it seems to be true, that he will tear apart the country in the process.
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X288MB isn't l33t. I ran it through everything I could find here.
English translation required.
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Thanks, np. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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CK--
Ah, thanks! I did see that post, but I didn't put it together with the previous one.
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Me either. Thx.
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Pangolin Guerre
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Has no one noted the incoherence in recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and playing footsie with antisemites? Or should I have said cynicism?
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Perhaps he doesn't care, as long as they all vote for him?
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He wouldn't know a Zionist from an antisemite if each of them bit him on either testicle.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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It's a version of "my enemy's enemy is my friend". We see this with showers like Britain First; one minute they're claiming they're going to protect Jews from the nasty Muslims, because of course the main threat to British Jews is Muslims (can anyone recall any friction between Jewish and Muslim communities in the UK? My experience is they rub along pretty well, even with occasional local newspaper "Synagogue gives space for Muslims to pray while Mosque undergoes repairs/Mosque raises money for Synagogue after it's targeted by far right thugs" type stories) not the far right anti-semites who daub swastikas on Jewish cemeteries and stuff, obviously.
The next minute they're off to Poland to talk to anti-semitic fringe-lunatic priests.
The connecting thread between the "Support Israel at all costs" bunch and the KKK/Nazi types is they both despise Muslims. And we know that Trump isn't likely to be found at Friday prayers in the foreseeable future.
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Bishops Finger
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Miss Amanda said:
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He wouldn't know a Zionist from an antisemite if each of them bit him on either testicle
He has two ?
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Crœsos
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Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre:
Has no one noted the incoherence in recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and playing footsie with antisemites? Or should I have said cynicism?
The less extreme anti-Semites support Israel for much the same reason white Americans supported Liberia in the nineteenth century: they're much more comfortable with [Jews / blacks] living "over there" than right next door.
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
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Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre:
Has no one noted the incoherence in recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and playing footsie with antisemites? Or should I have said cynicism?
The less extreme anti-Semites support Israel for much the same reason white Americans supported Liberia in the nineteenth century: they're much more comfortable with [Jews / blacks] living "over there" than right next door.
Besides, recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol will trigger violence that will kill off both Jews and those other non-white types, while at the same time the Jewish moneylenders will fill Trump's coffers with money because they are so grateful for what he has done for them. It is not incoherent; it is a win-win!
Sometimes even I worry about my degree of cynicism...
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Brenda Clough
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One must look very closely, but I wouldn't. Unless you have a telescope or some other distant viewing tool.
A social scientist who studies lies (what a great deal of material he must have!) analyzes the peculiar qualities of Lyin' Don's prevarication. This is from the Post so it'll cost you a click.
The other mildly notable happening on this front is the speech he gave about moving the embassy to Jerusalem. At the end of that speech he seemed to lose it -- slurring, stuttering. There's YouTube video of it. His press office said his throat was dry; comedians have gone wild with suggestions about slipping dentures. (Boy, would he hate it to be known that he has to wear dentures. I mean, he already has the orange toupee...) But this has gotten the WH to agree to have him get a physical, the first one since before he declared his candidacy. If it actually happens, this cannot be but for the good.
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Originally posted by Hedgehog:
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Originally posted by Crœsos:
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Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre:
Has no one noted the incoherence in recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and playing footsie with antisemites? Or should I have said cynicism?
The less extreme anti-Semites support Israel for much the same reason white Americans supported Liberia in the nineteenth century: they're much more comfortable with [Jews / blacks] living "over there" than right next door.
Besides, recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol will trigger violence that will kill off both Jews and those other non-white types, while at the same time the Jewish moneylenders will fill Trump's coffers with money because they are so grateful for what he has done for them. It is not incoherent; it is a win-win!
Sometimes even I worry about my degree of cynicism...
Given that he is leading (and yes, "leading" is precisely what he is doing-- even if it is leading over a cliff) a party who has recently
celebrated passing legislation that has been estimated will lead to the untimely deaths of 10,000 of their own citizens annually, the fact that they might carelessly bring about the deaths of 1000s of "those people over there" is hardly surprising.
Of all the many, many things that have been said about both Trump and the current GOP, "casual cruelty" most hits the mark. The casualness of it is the thing that most appalls/ terrifies/ enrages me.
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Brenda Clough
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
Of all the many, many things that have been said about both Trump and the current GOP, "casual cruelty" most hits the mark. The casualness of it is the thing that most appalls/ terrifies/ enrages me.
That quality also puzzled the scientist who studies lies. Most people lie for personal advantage, or from motives of kindness ("Oh no, you're not fat!") Only a small fraction of the lies that most people tell are cruel or malicious. But for him that percentage is much much higher, more than six times more than most people. This is so high, it's hard to attribute it to being a basically evil man. I'm thinking mental illness here.
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
Of all the many, many things that have been said about both Trump and the current GOP, "casual cruelty" most hits the mark. The casualness of it is the thing that most appalls/ terrifies/ enrages me.
That quality also puzzled the scientist who studies lies. Most people lie for personal advantage, or from motives of kindness ("Oh no, you're not fat!") Only a small fraction of the lies that most people tell are cruel or malicious. But for him that percentage is much much higher, more than six times more than most people. This is so high, it's hard to attribute it to being a basically evil man. I'm thinking mental illness here.
There are certainly good reasons to suspect that, as many notable psychiatrists have already indicated.
But the thing is, it's not just Trump. The entire GOP seems to be intent on enacting policies that yes, enrich themselves and their donors (their constituents, not so much)-- but to do so gleefully, cheerfully. They appear to be taking great delight in, for example, taking away access to health care for seriously ill children (the program that literally saved the life of my infant granddaughter-- very grateful she wasn't born 10 months later) or separating immigrant families or punishing DACA kids. They seem to see these horrific, cruel policies not as some sort of "necessary evil" but rather as fun, happy exercises of power that are to be literally celebrated with the popping of champagne corks and a heaping helping of poor-shaming or immigrant scapegoating on the side.
If that is mental illness it is very much a mass delusion.
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Oh I dunno Brenda, I'm sure many people lie to "fit in". Go to a bar on Saturday night and I'm sure there is plenty of support for Trump, just as there is plenty for Brexit in the same situation.
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Crœsos
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There's also White House spokesliar Sarah Huckabee Sanders having the gall to lecture John Lewis on the Civil Rights Movement. I couldn't keep my analysis of that one civil so I started a Hell thread.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
Of all the many, many things that have been said about both Trump and the current GOP, "casual cruelty" most hits the mark. The casualness of it is the thing that most appalls/ terrifies/ enrages me.
That quality also puzzled the scientist who studies lies. Most people lie for personal advantage, or from motives of kindness ("Oh no, you're not fat!") Only a small fraction of the lies that most people tell are cruel or malicious. But for him that percentage is much much higher, more than six times more than most people. This is so high, it's hard to attribute it to being a basically evil man. I'm thinking mental illness here.
There are certainly good reasons to suspect that, as many notable psychiatrists have already indicated.
But the thing is, it's not just Trump. The entire GOP seems to be intent on enacting policies that yes, enrich themselves and their donors (their constituents, not so much)-- but to do so gleefully, cheerfully. They appear to be taking great delight in, for example, taking away access to health care for seriously ill children (the program that literally saved the life of my infant granddaughter-- very grateful she wasn't born 10 months later) or separating immigrant families or punishing DACA kids. They seem to see these horrific, cruel policies not as some sort of "necessary evil" but rather as fun, happy exercises of power that are to be literally celebrated with the popping of champagne corks and a heaping helping of poor-shaming or immigrant scapegoating on the side.
If that is mental illness it is very much a mass delusion.
They're libertarians at heart. The see taxing the rich as theft. Better people die than the government steal. Essentially it's politicised sociopathy.
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But 'America is Great Again', so it's OK.....
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Bishops Finger
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Hopefully (if there is any justice at all in this multiverse), these gobshites will sooner or later receive their due reward.
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Brenda Clough
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This link ought to work. I always wonder if the Facebook ones really get you to the right place. In this case it's a cartoon about the theological importance of the President.
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Golden Key
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Re T's slurring of speech:
I'd been thinking strokes or TIAs (mini-strokes). (Not that I wish that on him.) I hope the doc who does his physical is NOT his long-term doc from NY (the one who said T's health is the bestest), and IS fully qualified for all the things that need to be checked out.
Re T lying:
He says tons of things that are untrue. For lying, he'd have to a) know the truth and b) purposely say an untruth. He's so impaired, in ways that shift like a kaleidescope, that if he does know the truth about something, he may forget it quickly.
FWIW, YMMV.
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I think the slurring ‘Shatesh’ thing sounded like it was due to poorly fitting teeth. He was holding his mouth in a strange way throughout the speech - and closing it often as if his teeth were trying to escape.
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Trump’s teeth escape and go on the rampage.
H,mmmm, does anyone else smell a Hollywood Blockbuster?
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Was he trying to sound like Winston Churchill?
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Originally posted by rolyn:
Trump’s teeth escape and go on the rampage.
H,mmmm, does anyone else smell a Hollywood Blockbuster?
I'm sure I saw a similar Terry Gilliam animation in a Monty Python episode (but maybe that was just dancing teeth).
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Sarasa
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Surely the president of the United States can afford a decent dentist?
It's all the manic hand movements that worry me most.
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Originally posted by Sarasa:
Surely the president of the United States can afford a decent dentist?
One would think he could afford a decent barber (or stylist) as well.
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Pangolin Guerre
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A pithy take on Trump's America from journalist/novelist Omar el-Akkad. I like it because it treats Trump not as an aberration, but as a symptom of deeper problems. Enjoy (if that's the word for it).
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quote:
...'when it comes to everything from decimating the social safety net to waging perpetual war, the President hinders with buffoonery what his party would otherwise undertake with unfaltering resolve.'
That is scary. Very, very, very scary.
2018 is going to be one HELL of a year.
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God help us all.
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Originally posted by Sarasa:
Surely the president of the United States can afford a decent dentist?
It's all the manic hand movements that worry me most.
I’m sure even before he was elected he has had the best dentist and stylist money can buy. And that he totally ignores both of them.
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
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Originally posted by Sarasa:
Surely the president of the United States can afford a decent dentist?
It's all the manic hand movements that worry me most.
I’m sure even before he was elected he has had the best dentist and stylist money can buy. And that he totally ignores both of them.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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[/QUOTE]They're libertarians at heart. The see taxing the rich as theft. Better people die than the government steal. Essentially it's politicised sociopathy. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Karl, P.J. O'Rourke once defined Libertarians as "Republicans who like to smoke dope and get laid." Good for a chuckle or two, but your definition of Libertarianism has the virtue of being far more precise and damning. Thanks. I'm much obliged.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sarasa:
Surely the president of the United States can afford a decent dentist?
It's all the manic hand movements that worry me most.
I suspect it comes down to getting him to visit one. He might see this as an acknowledgement of imperfection.
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Of course, a racist governor of Mississippi would invite a racist president to the dedication of a museum on racism in the Deep South. Note, no prominent civil rights personality was at the dedication. Talk about whitewashing our history!
It's getting to be something when I wake up and wonder what has the Daftwit done today.
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Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
That is scary. Very, very, very scary.
2018 is going to be one HELL of a year.
God help us all.
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I know it sounds unlikely but a friend of mine said it might be a side effect of an anti-psychotic medicine. Of course when it was prescribed to Trump it wasn't called an anti-psychotic, rather something to bring down the stress of his Asian trip. My friend said he had experienced such lack of control of his jaw and dry mouth when he did a few weeks in a psych ward for extreme depression years ago. (He is doing well now.) If it is an effect of psych meds, I wish they worked better on Trump.
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Gramps49
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New name for Daftwit: Saglutupiaġataq (“the compulsive liar” in Iñupiatun, which is an Alaskan tribe).
Apparently, Trump wants to abrogate all treaties the US has with Native Americans and open up their lands to private development under the control of individual states. Read here
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Golden Key
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
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Originally posted by Sarasa:
Surely the president of the United States can afford a decent dentist?
It's all the manic hand movements that worry me most.
I’m sure even before he was elected he has had the best dentist and stylist money can buy. And that he totally ignores both of them.
His mom had somewhat odd hair (or hairdo), too. And, as of when his NY doc wrote a note about his health (last year??), T was still taking Minoxodil/Rogaine to prevent hair loss--and it's known to have mental effects.
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Golden Key
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Depressing analysis of why Crooked Don is doing this. That is in addition to the desire to distract from the Russia investigation.
{Retrieves old fundamentalist hat from the attic dust bunnies.}
Yeah, sounds about right, as interpretation.
Ok, I can sort of see doing the Jerusalem thing for that purpose. Especially if you (gen) are sick of this world. And you get to feel like you're part of God's plan, etc. But the consequences for people...
This and other actions/beliefs smack of trying to force God's hand. Like the (IMNSHO) idiots who've taken red/roan cattle to Jerusalem to fulfill a prophecy. What, God can't manage that?
Even Jesus said he didn't know "the day or the hour" when end-times stuff would play out. He just told us to "watch", to pay attention. (Though I'm no longer fundamentalist, I do pay a bit of attention, just in case.)
But due to the embassy fall-out, people have died and there'll be more; and if God's hand really could be forced, lots of people would die--many of whom, by this kind of belief, would go to Hell forever.
ISTM that if someone is going to Hell, you have a few choices: leave them be; pray for them; witness to them; love them in a gentle way. What you *don't* get to do is send them to Hell early, depriving them of a chance to change and accept salvation. What would God think about that?
Love them all, and let God sort it out.
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Bishops Finger
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The Orange Ozymandias seems to be becoming a shockingly awful figure of impending doom and disaster, as he stumbles from one Armageddon scenario to another....
IKTIACW, but is it really wrong to pray earnestly for his swift removal from the world?
(And the removal - or disabling - of his emissaries, too, of course.)
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Pigwidgeon
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Bishops Finger, I've been debating that in my mind for the past year. I'm totally against wishing for anyone's death, but... I've often wondered if it would have been wrong to wish for the death of Hitler, Amin, Bin Laden, etc. Trump's rapidly joining that infamous bunch.
I just want him gone. Resignation or impeachment would be preferable, but whatever it takes. And natural death (he's tempting a heart attack -- if he indeed has a heart) and assassination are both possible scenarios.
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Bishops Finger
Shipmate
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Well, I don't suppose we're the only ones who want to see him gone!
Natural death, resignation, or impeachment (and jail) will do. Not assassination - that would turn him into a martyr...
IJ
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Brenda Clough
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
Well, I don't suppose we're the only ones who want to see him gone!
Natural death, resignation, or impeachment (and jail) will do. Not assassination - that would turn him into a martyr...
IJ
Exactly. Do we want Saint Donald to join the pantheon up there beside Saint Ronnie? Even impeachment is fraught with peril; he needs to resign of his (exteriorly) own free will on national TV. (I don't care who twists his arm in back.)
What I dream of, the day I yearn for, is that blissful day sure to arrive sometime, in which I open the Post and there is not a word about him. That there are no products, no hotels, no neckties, no wines, with his name on. When comedians no long have to razz him, when his repellent image is as distant and unfamiliar as that of Caligula, who, I assume, most of us wouldn't recognize on the train. When those apps that replace his image with the more soothing photo of a random kitten can be disabled. I dream of the full Voldemort, him consigned to the utmost oblivion for all time.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
Dressed for Church
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
when his repellent image is as distant and unfamiliar as that of Caligula, who, I assume, most of us wouldn't recognize on the train.
His toga would give him away, I would imagine -- as the orange wig would give away the Fartletter-in-Chief.
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Brenda Clough
Shipmate
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This is from the NY Times, but it's important: evangelicals abandoning that name, because of what Republicans have done to it. The money quote:
"Where exactly is the bottom? And at what point do you pull back from associating yourself with a political party and a religious term you once took pride in but that are now doing harm to the things you treasure?
Institutional renewal and regeneration are possible, and I’m going to continue to push for them. But for now a solid majority of Republicans and self-described evangelicals are firmly aboard the Trump train, which is doing its utmost to give a seat of privilege to Mr. Moore. So for those of us who still think of ourselves as conservative and Christian, it’s enough already."
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