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simontoad
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Living With Dementia - A Guide to the Best Election Win in History
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Penny S
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I have been hearing of a person who had paranoid delusions that everyone who was attempting to help them was a demon of some sort. They were found to have mental capacity to run their own life.
Presumably the President can also be found to have mental capacity.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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Sort of like the old "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't really out to get you."
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Crœsos
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quote: Originally posted by Golden Key: I just realized something: given that T has (co-)written several books, he'll likely [have ghost written] at least one about his presidency--however long it is.
Possible titles: . . .
"My Struggle"?
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Wesley J
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Been thought of: Alec Baldwin as 45, in the 'Saturday Night Live' cold open, 5 February 2017; scene starts 3'15" in - the entire sketch is rather watchable though.
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mousethief
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quote: Originally posted by Wesley J: Been thought of: Alec Baldwin as 45, in the 'Saturday Night Live' cold open, 5 February 2017; scene starts 3'15" in - the entire sketch is rather watchable though.
McKinnon is so awesome in this one -- acting by facial expression alone.
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The realism is absolutely chilling.....
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Croesos--
quote: Originally posted by Crœsos: quote: Originally posted by Golden Key: I just realized something: given that T has (co-)written several books, he'll likely [have ghost written] at least one about his presidency--however long it is.
Possible titles: . . .
"My Struggle"?
LOL. Probably, and likely without any awareness of the reference.
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Golden Key
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--Game: I've started a "Trump's Tale Titles" thread in the Circus.
--Messiahship: I alluded to this in one of the titles. I've been wondering if T thinks of himself as a/the Messiah. His various comments about how he's the only one who can set the world right, including the Middle East, could lean that way. If, in his deluded mind, he believes that he *really* is God's anointed, he'd see that as license to do whatever he wants--because, of course, God must trust him.
--"Trumping Your Life": Speaking of delusions, a deluded shrink, who works for Fox News, is writing a series of articles on "How to be a better, stronger person by being more like the president". If it wasn't at Fox, I might think it was satire.
--Cartoons!: The San Jose Mercury News has several cartoons on Trump vs. the Pope.
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Golden Key
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quote: Originally posted by Golden Key: --Game: I've started a "Trump's Tale Titles" thread in the Circus.
--Messiahship: I alluded to this in one of the titles. I've been wondering if T thinks of himself as a/the Messiah. His various comments about how he's the only one who can set the world right, including the Middle East, could lean that way. If, in his deluded mind, he believes that he *really* is God's anointed, he'd see that as license to do whatever he wants--because, of course, God must trust him.
--"Trumping Your Life": Speaking of delusions, a deluded shrink, who works for Fox News, is writing a series of articles on "How to be a better, stronger person by being more like the president". If it wasn't at Fox, I might think it was satire.
--Cartoons!: The San Jose Mercury News has several cartoons on Trump vs. the Pope.
ETA: Any idea on what the pope is carrying in picture #6? Thx.
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simontoad
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ETA is Estimated Time of Arrival in my acronym dictionary
Is he taking a wrench to the papacy?
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"Edited to add"
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Golden Key
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Macron won, I think.
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Golden Key
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simontoad--
quote: Originally posted by simontoad: ETA is Estimated Time of Arrival in my acronym dictionary
Is he taking a wrench to the papacy?
One end of the wrench has some sort of strange implement, and that's what I can't figure out.
mt-
-Thanks for explaining "ETA".
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What moronic imbicility re handshakes. Doesn't read books. Doesn't care to understand anything except himself. Melanoma or what ever his 3rd wife's name is, why is she called FLOTUS? Sounds a lot like his FLATTUS. She wants him dead right? This version of Camelot needs to go back to the alternate Star Trek universe where it came from.
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Golden Key
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Melania is First Lady Of The United States, so FLOTUS. Her husband is POTUS. There are similar terms for the VP and wife. Same terms used in each administration.
Then there are the Secret Service code names, which are unique to each person in their care.
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Golden Key
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T left an...interesting....note in the visitors' book at the Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial Museum (CBS).
quote: His message read, "It is a great honor to be here with all of my friends – so amazing & will never forget!"
Sounds like something you'd write in the visitors' book at the Grand Canyon. The article quotes the comments previous presidents have left, and Hillary (as Sect'y of State).
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simontoad
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We're knights of the round table, we dance whenever we're able. We do routines and make up scenes and impersonate Clarke Gable. It's a fine life here in Camelot we eat ham and jam and spamalot.
Spam is a crime against humanity. A misdemeanor, but still a crime.
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quote: Originally posted by Golden Key: Then there are the Secret Service code names, which are unique to each person in their care.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall!
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Golden Key
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Miss Amanda--
The code names are probably online somewhere. They sometimes leak out.
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simontoad
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Assuming (a big one) that Trump does not contest the next Presidential election, who would people like to see as the Republican Candidate?
Ryan?
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quote: Originally posted by simontoad: Assuming (a big one) that Trump does not contest the next Presidential election, who would people like to see as the Republican Candidate?
Ryan?
Someone with absolutely no credibility and entirely unsuitable for the position.
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quote: Originally posted by simontoad: Assuming (a big one) that Trump does not contest the next Presidential election, who would people like to see as the Republican Candidate?
Ryan?
These eighth graders* don't seem to support Ryan.
*probably about 14 years old
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quote: Originally posted by Brenda Clough: And I am informed this is not a crime in the US. But in Britain isn't it illegal to steal someone else's coat of arms?
How fitting that he removed integrity from the Coat and replaced it with himself. You couldn't get more symbolically accurate if you tried.
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Yes, it's almost too heavy-handed and symbolic. If you put it into a book your editor would say, gently, "You know dear, you've made your point. Don't belabor the dead horse, would you?"
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simontoad
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quote: Originally posted by Golden Key: simontoad--
quote: Originally posted by simontoad: ETA is Estimated Time of Arrival in my acronym dictionary
Is he taking a wrench to the papacy?
One end of the wrench has some sort of strange implement, and that's what I can't figure out.
mt-
-Thanks for explaining "ETA".
I thought it was the Papal hat, or the hat from the Vatican's coat of arms/seal. Whatever, it certainly means institutional Catholicism.
By the way, I noticed that my posts yesterday gradually deteriorated to the point where I suggested that Paul Ryan might make an OK President. I'm relieved that in the post immediately preceding, I sang a silly song from Monty Python.
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Op-ed on radio this morn had it: The End of America's Century. Noting that Angela Merkel had to show trumpy a map so he could see Russia's position and goals in the mid-east. The glib and oily trumpy doesn't listen to briefings and prides himself on not reading. His preening in front of other leaders, who observedly rolled their eyes at him. Did trumpy finish highschool? his handshaking competition signals no. His taking sides in the Shia-Sunni conflict by further arming Saudi Arabia. His harange about NATO funding (more rolling eyes). His statement about pulling out of the Paris Accord on Climate. And everyone knowing that trumpy is likely to say the opposite on everything next week.
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What hath Fox wrought? This is a free click. My father, who passed away earlier this year, had his final years continually roiled by watching Faux News. We begged him to at least watch some of the other stations, so that he wouldn't wind up screaming at the screen.
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Roger Waters (Pink Floyd) did Pigs (Three Different Ones) with specific reference to trumpy. The link is Facebook, but can be seen without logging into FB.
quote: Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are, You well heeled big wheel, ha ha, charade you are.
[ 30. May 2017, 17:07: Message edited by: no prophet's flag is set so... ]
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quote: Originally posted by Eutychus: quote: Originally posted by romanlion: In real world terms, the Gorsuch nomination and the next (at least) one pending give me a measure of hope for my daughters, that the Republic may actually remain standing as intended into their children's lives.
Right, so you appear to espouse the "long game" view, where the most important aim of the presidency is to secure a Supreme Court that is sure to rule in line with your preferences, and nothing else matters?
Not at all. The point was that the impact of his selection of Gorsuch as AJ is profoundly positive and long lasting, particularly when compared with who might have been chosen under another POTUS...
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What would you say to the challenge that Trump is doing a fair job of weakening the institutions that help uphold the Republic and the credibility of the office he holds?
Can you be more specific about institutions and methods?
I would say that he has had virtually no impact in a few months compared to the irresponsible and unpatriotic accumulation of debt by his predecessor.
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quote: Originally posted by romanlion: Can you be more specific about institutions and methods?
Off the top of my head: preparing an EO that took a court virtually no time to strike down damages the credibility of his office; summarily firing justice appointees immediately in the wake of court decisions not in his favour damages the independence of the judiciary.
Taking so long to fill many positions in government administration weakens the checks and balances of that administration.
Similarly, firing Comey when he did damages both people's trust in the intelligence services and confidence in his willingness to be held to account.
Contradicting official information supplied by his staff and continually firing off partisan tweets damages the office of the president.
Similarly, constant criticism of the media, allegations of fake news, and false equivalence (most lately, the creative redefinition of Kushner's alleged overtures to the Russians for off-the-record communications as a "back channel" equivalent to that in the Cuban missile crisis era) is an abuse of the institution of the press.
His diplomatic gaffes (such as suggesting Israel was not part of the Middle East) weaken the foreign perception of the presidency and the US.
His conflicts of interest - blatant diversion of taxpayer funds into his own private club by frequent use of Mar-a-Lago and the presence of family members in the White House with influence but no accountability - inflict further damage to the legitimacy of the presidency.
That will do for a start.
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quote: Originally posted by romanlion: I would say that he has had virtually no impact in a few months compared to the irresponsible and unpatriotic accumulation of debt by his predecessor.
By which I assume you're referring to his predecessor Geo. W Bush running up the deficit through massive, unfunded wars and Medicare part D, to say nothing of removing oversight that might have prevented or at least minimized the costly impact of the housing crash/bank fiascos?
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quote: Originally posted by romanlion: quote: Originally posted by Eutychus: quote: Originally posted by romanlion: In real world terms, the Gorsuch nomination and the next (at least) one pending give me a measure of hope for my daughters, that the Republic may actually remain standing as intended into their children's lives.
Right, so you appear to espouse the "long game" view, where the most important aim of the presidency is to secure a Supreme Court that is sure to rule in line with your preferences, and nothing else matters?
Not at all. The point was that the impact of his selection of Gorsuch as AJ is profoundly positive and long lasting, particularly when compared with who might have been chosen under another POTUS...
For someone who claims to "have no opinion on [Merrick] Garland" you don't seem to be able to resist an opportunity to bag on him.
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romanlion
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quote: Originally posted by Eutychus: quote: Originally posted by romanlion: Can you be more specific about institutions and methods?
Off the top of my head: preparing an EO that took a court virtually no time to strike down damages the credibility of his office; summarily firing justice appointees immediately in the wake of court decisions not in his favour damages the independence of the judiciary.
We are talking about the 9th here, right? The suggestion that anything a POTUS does damages their credibility is a bit of a stretch, considering they have none. And we don't want to go tit-for-tat on Justice appointee firings, do we?
quote: Taking so long to fill many positions in government administration weakens the checks and balances of that administration.
Personally I don't think that the absence of a few hundred bureaucrats weakens much of anything. Those jobs still get done by experienced career people. I expect he will leave many of them unfilled in perpetuity.
quote: Similarly, firing Comey when he did damages both people's trust in the intelligence services and confidence in his willingness to be held to account.
So it was just poor timing? I think reasonable people recognize that it was Trump's prerogative to fire Comey, and that it had zero impact on any ongoing "investigation" being conducted by the Bureau.
quote: Contradicting official information supplied by his staff and continually firing off partisan tweets damages the office of the president.
Give him a little credit for the act he follows. He can polish till the day he dies and his bullshit will never shine like Barry's. Jedi-pol he is not...
quote: Similarly, constant criticism of the media, allegations of fake news, and false equivalence (most lately, the creative redefinition of Kushner's alleged overtures to the Russians for off-the-record communications as a "back channel" equivalent to that in the Cuban missile crisis era) is an abuse of the institution of the press.
The press has earned any abuse they get. And his base sops it up like gravy on a biscuit.
quote: His diplomatic gaffes (such as suggesting Israel was not part of the Middle East) weaken the foreign perception of the presidency and the US.
Again, no need to go tit-for-tat, but it didn't seem to impact his reception last week. (And he didn't even bow to the King! )
quote: His conflicts of interest - blatant diversion of taxpayer funds into his own private club by frequent use of Mar-a-Lago and the presence of family members in the White House with influence but no accountability - inflict further damage to the legitimacy of the presidency.
None of these things bother me, and I don't think that they are new or unique to Trump in any way. Funny that you mention family members in the White House with influence but no accountability considering who Trump defeated...
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How significant is Dubke's resignation? I heard an interview with Bush's comms director, name forgotten but he was there 3 years, who said people come and go in administrations, and the chief job was to echo the President's thoughts.
I can understand the latter for more, say, balanced and consistent Presidents, but does the comms director have [and should they have?] any input to give to the President?
And the Russian enquiry expands...
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quote: Originally posted by Ian Climacus: How significant is Dubke's resignation? I heard an interview with Bush's comms director, name forgotten but he was there 3 years, who said people come and go in administrations, and the chief job was to echo the President's thoughts.
I can understand the latter for more, say, balanced and consistent Presidents, but does the comms director have [and should they have?] any input to give to the President?
I mostly agree with Charlie Pierce's take:
quote: Some guy you never heard of left a job that, given the available public evidence, was largely an honorary position anyway.
Plus his snark that this will give the press yet another excuse to write a whole new raft of "Trump Pivot!!!" articles.
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quote: Originally posted by romanlion: quote: Contradicting official information supplied by his staff and continually firing off partisan tweets damages the office of the president.
Give him a little credit for the act he follows. He can polish till the day he dies and his bullshit will never shine like Barry's. Jedi-pol he is not...
Speaking of the soft bigotry of low expectations (give Trump credit for not being as articulate as the guy the American right spent eight years saying was completely inarticulate without a teleprompter ), I came across this gem today:
quote: To respond to this assertion that working for Donald Trump is awful, the White House’s Hope Hicks released a remarkable statement that was absolutely not dictated by her boss while he paced behind her, furiously chewing gum:
quote: President Trump has a magnetic personality and exudes positive energy, which is infectious to those around him. He has an unparalleled ability to communicate with people, whether he is speaking to a room of three or an arena of 30,000. He has built great relationships throughout his life and treats everyone with respect. He is brilliant with a great sense of humor . . . and an amazing ability to make people feel special and aspire to be more than even they thought possible.
It might have been simpler to just say "Donald Trump is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life." It would be just as convincing, and classics are classic for a reason.
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quote: Originally posted by Crœsos: Speaking of the soft bigotry of low expectations (give Trump credit for not being as articulate as the guy the American right spent eight years saying was completely inarticulate without a teleprompter )
Do you need a link to video of the stuttering idiot he became when his prompter failed?
I can provide that if necessary...
Or, just google "Obama stutters"...that'll do... [ 31. May 2017, 01:34: Message edited by: romanlion ]
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simontoad
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ahhh, opinions that are different. Nice.
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quote: Originally posted by romanlion: quote: Originally posted by Crœsos: Speaking of the soft bigotry of low expectations (give Trump credit for not being as articulate as the guy the American right spent eight years saying was completely inarticulate without a teleprompter )
Do you need a link to video of the stuttering idiot he became when his prompter failed?
I can provide that if necessary...
Or, just google "Obama stutters"...that'll do...
You have made your point bigly.
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quote: Originally posted by Brenda Clough: This is another variant on the King Lear theme. Free click.
So true. It makes me pity him. Is it his fault he was treated so as a child, warping his personality into such a narcissist - then inheriting billions to squander as he wished?
I blame the voters - but would that be victim blaming?
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Teleprompters. It's disconcerting to have to wing it when they break down. Obama is generally good at accepting his gaffes. He can laugh at himself, see the ludicrous for what it is. It's just one of the risks public figures face these days. I don't think it tells you too much about anybody's character or capabities.
Whereas going off script wilfully when the teleprompter doesn't break down and making a gaffe as a result does tell you something about a public figure. Those who do so underestimate the risks related to winging it in the modern age, when every word is weighed and may be replayed.
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