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Thread: offshoot from One Atonement - One Love.
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Aijalon
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The thread asking why PSA is such a dogma excited me to write my first topic on the boards. PSA seems to make God out to be equal parts love and wrath. But we know that God is more loving, than he is wrathful, yes?
Resolving hard crunchy peanutbuttery questions... I came to the conclusion of late that the Church at large has misplaced the action of atonement as being at the Cross.
Simply put, The Cross is love, but not atonement.Atonement is a ritual to be sure, but it isn't done at the cross. The cross is where God showed his love. Clearly God loves all, but clearly also he doesn't atone everyone's sin.
For starters, John announces Jesus as "The Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world". The church may have mistakenly adopted the view of The Lamb being a reference to death, rather than more abstractly just the person of Jesus Christ. Was John merely speaking of the imminent death of Jesus? I think not. The Lamb simply means the humanity of Jesus, or, IOW, the incarnation of God as the servant-man. In reducing the Lamb to a sacrifice alone, the life of Christ is reduced to his suffering death. Thus, the Lamb became on object associated with Christ on the cross, rather than a person.
Modern reformed theology makes it easy to stop short and conclude that the blood sacrifice is equivalent to atonement. Done and Done! The cross looms so large in atonement question it is less necessary to pay attention to Jesus' life in Galilee or Jerusalem.
But however much a lamb is an object of wrath, a Lamb doesn't take away sins, as if God becomes happy with the sinner by looking upon dead lambs? The atonement was the 7th annual feast, not the 1st feast. The ritual requires a priest applying the blood and transferring the sin.
The mediator between God and man facilitates sin removal. So in any regard the whole matter of who does God love vs who does he forgive can be more easily resolved by differentiating between love and atonement. Being the High Priest and The Lamb gave Christ the position and power to be the forgiver of sin.
Hoping this is a worthy introductory post for these boards, there are some witty Brits up in here! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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mr cheesy
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Well some of us put forward something similar to this on that thread for discussion. It seems a bit pointless to go through it all again.
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Aijalon
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already covered then. Ok, NW.
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