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Jay-Emm
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:

"This land is my land, this land is your land,
From Cape Maria, to Stewart Island,
In kauri forests and Cook Strait waters.
This land was made for you and me." - LG Anderson.

Huia [/QB]

Sometime either near of before Greenbelt (a churchy festival that takes place on one of the estates of the D o Queensbury, D o Beccleuch (pronounced Ber-clue) and E o Dalkeith) I did try mapping it across
From john of groats to the isles of scilly
This land .. to you and me.

I saw a sign that said owned by Beccleuch
... other side ... land belongs to me and you

[of course in Britain that's not true]

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Originally posted by Enoch:
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Originally posted by leo:
Hardly anyone does the state prayers - in any case, if you're following with a mass you can end at the 3rd collect.

That might explain why the country is in such a mess these days.

Praying for those in power isn't a statement that one thinks they are wonderful, that one supports them or that one believes a word they say. There's a good argument that it's those that are incompetent and worse who need prayer more. The rest of us are at their mercy.

Yes. Our prayer here in US since January: "oh, my God! Oh my GOD, OH MY GOD!" Desperation does wonders for ones prayer life

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And in today's news: Vice President Mike Pence walked out of Sunday’s NFL game between the Indianapolis Colts and the San Francisco 49ers as several 49ers players knelt in protest during a rendition of the national anthem.

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He's a tool and sock puppet of Voldemort, so what do you expect.

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Insult to Lord Voldemort! [Eek!]

Is Outrage!

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His master's voice. What a good doggie!

[ 08. October 2017, 21:15: Message edited by: Brenda Clough ]

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L'organist
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Jay-Emm

The Duke of Buccleuch and Queensberry (Queensbury is a suburb of London) are the same person. The Earl of Dalkeith is the courtesy title for the eldest son of the dukedom.

Just sayin'

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It was totally a stunt.

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quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
(Queensbury is a suburb of London)

I don't think it's that Queensbury - I think the name was invented by a developer in the 30s who took the name from adjacent Kingsbury.

There is a "proper" Queensberry near Bradford in Yorkshire - I wonder if it's that one?

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Jay-Emm
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Originally posted by L'organist:
Jay-Emm

The Duke of Buccleuch and Queensberry (Queensbury is a suburb of London) are the same person. The Earl of Dalkeith is the courtesy title for the eldest son of the dukedom.

Just sayin'

I knew they were the same. Didn't realise the Dalkeith title wasn't.

(Wiki seemed to suggest Queensbury is Scottish maybe?, I'd assumed it was the London one-esp with the half the British museum area being Montegue House. It also mentioned the courtesy title, but I'd only looked it up to change the spelling and didn't really absorb it)

Anyhow on topic. I think the aristocracy get some of the odd treatment that the flag and anthem gets in America.

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My recollection is that this Dalkeith is just a bit south from Edinburgh.

A very good biography of Hugh Trevor-Roper has o photograph of him sitting on the walls of Drumlanrig between the Duchesses of Buccleugh and Newcastle. He looks to be enjoying himself.

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quote:
Originally posted by Soror Magna:
It was totally a stunt.

So Mike Pence used the national anthem to stage a political protest, and what he was protesting was that you shouldn't use the national anthem to stage political protests.

That's way more "meta" and absurdist than I would have thought Pence capable of!

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quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
He's a tool and sock puppet of Voldemort, so what do you expect.

My favorite thing I ever read about Mike Pence is: "Somewhere in Indiana a Quizno's is missing its assistant manager."

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quote:
Originally posted by Crœsos:
quote:
Originally posted by Soror Magna:
It was totally a stunt.

So Mike Pence used the national anthem to stage a political protest, and what he was protesting was that you shouldn't use the national anthem to stage political protests.

That's way more "meta" and absurdist than I would have thought Pence capable of!

What it is, is hypocritical. And he is well capable of that.

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Originally posted by Al Eluia:
quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
He's a tool and sock puppet of Voldemort, so what do you expect.

My favorite thing I ever read about Mike Pence is: "Somewhere in Indiana a Quizno's is missing its assistant manager."
I would happily replace him and his boss with any two Quizno's assistant managers drawn at random from the HR database.

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These protests are nothing new.

The snollygoster-in-chief just needs another distraction from what he's doing and not doing.

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Soror Magna
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And he's turned "stop killing us" to "disrespecting veterans and the flag."

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quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
... The snollygoster-in-chief just needs another distraction from what he's doing and not doing.

Is 'snollygoster' your personal neologism or does it have a specific meaning but in a dialect I don't speak? It sounds suitably disparging. I'd like to adopt it for my own use. But is it just a general term of abuse or does it have a specific meaning. I'm a bit hesitant to use it if it's got a meaning that I don't know.

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Enoch

Try this for size....

I have to admit that our friends across the pond are a very expressive people...... [Smile] .....you can insult people without actually swearing!

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Piglet introduced the word "snollygoster" on the Interesting Words thread in Heaven.

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Enoch
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That's a really useful word. We've a lot of them here too. Mr De Pf****l J*****n for one.

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Amazing what you learn here isn't it?

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