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Martin60
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Selfishly glad you're still here Rossweisse. Keep it up.
SusanDoris.
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SusanDoris
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Doone - Thank you.
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Originally posted by Martin60:
Selfishly glad you're still here Rossweisse. Keep it up.
SusanDoris.
Well, curiosity means that I have to ask if you could please explain the layout of your post! A comment to Ross Weisse, then two blank lines then my name. I quite understand that as an ancient person, I've probably missed something!
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I imagine (not wishing to delve too deeply into the labyrinthine mind of Martin...) that it's a list of people he's praying for...
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Martin60
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Originally posted by SusanDoris:
Doone - Thank you.
quote:
Originally posted by Martin60:
Selfishly glad you're still here Rossweisse. Keep it up.
SusanDoris.
Well, curiosity means that I have to ask if you could please explain the layout of your post! A comment to Ross Weisse, then two blank lines then my name. I quite understand that as an ancient person, I've probably missed something!
It's an understated acknowledgement SusanDoris. Sorry for the lack of clarity. Should have added a candle or two.
[ 07. August 2017, 09:55: Message edited by: Martin60 ]
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Do candles in Hell have to shine even brighter than usual?! ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
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SusanDoris
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Martin - thank you for reply. Not sure that I would have seen the candles actually!! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Ross, I'm glad you're ornery. But then I knew that waaay back on AOL in another century.
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Rossweisse
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Thank you, Kyzyl.
I have to return to the hospital for another set of MRIs on Wednesday. Dammit.
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Bishops Finger
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Best of luck with those MRIs - I've one due at the end of this month. Fun, aren't they?
![[Paranoid]](graemlins/paranoid.gif)
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Brenda Clough
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I had my first MRI last week, on my knee. Damn, those things are noisy. The earplugs they gave me were worthless.
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Bishops Finger
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My first MRI took me by surprise - I didn't realise how LOUD the noise would be!
After a little while, though, I began to (sort of) enjoy what sounded like a cross between heavy metal and something by Arvo Part.... ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
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Brenda Clough
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I have a friend who has had several brain MRIs, and she has learned to fall asleep.
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Bishops Finger
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Wow. That's some achievement!
![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
Another way of using a potentially unpleasant experience in a positive manner.
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Rossweisse
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I actually find that MRIs and other scans provide a good opportunity for purposeful prayer. The earplugs are a necessity with an MRI, though.
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Stercus Tauri
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It's a good opportunity to recite poetry; not so good for composing it. Some odd things can go on in your mind while it's happening, but they sometimes offer a sedative, though I'm not sure if that's a good idea - haven't tried it yet.
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Bishops Finger
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Earplugs, yes indeed, though I find they only help to shut out the noise.
I'm glad, though, that others find MRI scans give them time for positive thoughts, prayer, etc. etc.
![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Martin60
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quote:
Originally posted by SusanDoris:
Martin - thank you for reply. Not sure that I would have seen the candles actually!!
Indeed! I didn't hear the smile, doesn't your software say 'votive'? Or do the colons (!) interfere. How does your personal Steven Hawking say 'colonvotivecolon'?
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Rossweisse
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After three hours in the MRI coffin, I think I may have a hint of understanding what it's like to be shell-shocked - even with earplugs and headphones.
But although the cancer has indeed spread higher into my spine, it's not the cause of my lower back pain; that's a fractured bone in my sacrum. There's nothing to be done for it, but at least it's not life-threatening, unlike the cancer. We take what we can get.
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SusanDoris
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Rossweisse
Oh dear, I am so sorry to hear that news.
For the lower back pain, is there some kind of support brace you could have?
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quote:
Originally posted by Rossweisse:
After three hours in the MRI coffin, I think I may have a hint of understanding what it's like to be shell-shocked - even with earplugs and headphones.
What torture! I thought my last, 45 minute, session was about as long as anyone should have to ever tolerate.
So sorry about all of that.
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Martin60
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Rossweisse
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Bishops Finger
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Three HOURS.....!!
![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
So sorry to hear of the added spinal problem.
IJ
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Rossweisse
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Hell might possibly be eternity in an MRI machine.
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Bishops Finger
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Yes, with the rhythm changing suddenly every so often, just as you're getting used to it...
IJ
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mdijon
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I knew someone who recovered from an illness that put them through a period where most of their brain had stopped working and they needed naso-gastric feeding. They recovered and, unsurprisingly, couldn't remember anything about their illness or time in hospital apart from the last week before discharge.
But they did remember being put in a tunnel with a very loud thumping noise. It's clearly an experience that makes an impression.
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Bishops Finger
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It certainly does!
But, like many things in life, it's what you make of it. Now that I know what to expect, I'm not scared or apprehensive (though I was first time round, more because of fear of what the scan might reveal, than the actual mechanics). On the contrary, I find the experience interesting, and, hopefully, informative. Perhaps I should get out more....
Of course, I'd rather not have had a brain tumour, with the collateral brain damage (slight, but noticeable), but at least it turned out not to be cancerous.
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Rossweisse
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My tumor was in the cerebral cortex, which happens to be involved with music. That seems particularly unfair, given the central role that music has played in my life. (I find that I have trouble counting - but I can tell when others are off.)
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Stercus Tauri
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Still hoping that it's the result of toxic chemo and not old age, I also have trouble counting. For no reason that I can figure out, I can keep count better in French, as when doing laps on the track at the gym and things like that, though it's not quite as demanding as music, of course. (My French stinks, but there's enough of it left for that).
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Rossweisse
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I meant counting beats, in music - other kinds of counting are fine. I used to be a professional opera singer; now I sing only in church choir, but it's still important. Sorry for the confusion!
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Martin60
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None taken.
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Gamaliel
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My wife's chemo and cancer has been debilitating but not painful so far. She very tired but otherwise, now she is on the chemo tablets rather than the intravenous system, things have been better and bearable.
This evening,she suffered greatly and it was hours before she could sleep. She was in tears and wishing it were over, wishing herself dead ...
This is the first time it's been like this. I feel helpless. I also wonder whether this will be how it is from here on in ...
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Stercus Tauri
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Gamaliel...
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Lothlorien
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(((Gamaliel and Mrs Gamaliel))). Also for strength and wisdom and relief.
And to all cancers. ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif) My family has seen too many so Again.
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MaryLouise
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Thinking of you, Gamaliel.
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Gee D
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Yes, indeed.
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Oh, that's awful. I am so sorry to hear that. I truly hope that it was a bad day, and not the new normal...
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Doone
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Gamaliel and Mrs Gamaliel
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Bishops Finger
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((The Gamaliels))
I have my next appointment with the neuro-oncology team next Monday, following last week's MRI scan. I'm hoping there'll be no problem re the brain tumour, but I am aware that I have a small lump on one lung. Quite what's happening with that, I know not - at the moment...
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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
After three hours in the MRI coffin, I think I may have a hint of understanding what it's like to be shell-shocked - even with earplugs and headphones.
Perhaps they can use the technology invented for CT scans;
CT Scanner Accessorfies
And good luck with the treatment.
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Rossweisse
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Oh, Gamaliel.
Bishops Finger:
Thank you, Palimpsest.
I'm having serious fatigue problems, which I shouldn't have, because my bloodwork is good. I don't have time for this crap, but sometimes it's hard to push on through.
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Doone
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Rossweisse, Gamaliel and Bishops Finger
[ 05. September 2017, 12:40: Message edited by: Doone ]
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Stejjie
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Yes, for you all.
More crappy news from the school where I'm a governor: I've already mentioned on this thread the little lad who died from a brain tumour last year, and the teacher who died suddenly in the spring, again from a brain tumour. Now we've heard over the summer that the headteacher has been diagnosed with acute myeloid leukaemia and is currently in isolation in hospital undergoing intensive chemotherapy.
She is very positive and that positivity is being reflected in the school, but it's yet another big blow after all the crappy cancer-related news over the last year at the school. Everyone's just in shock about it, really.
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Doone
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For everyone at the school, especially the Head
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Gamaliel
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Indeed ...
Update on Mrs Gamaliel. More tests required. The cancer has been stable but may now be active again. Perhaps a different form of chemo required ...
All is not lost though. The battle continues. For now.
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cliffdweller
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Mr & Mrs G: in my heart and prayers
for all her battling this awful disease
for hours in MRI tunnel- egads.
Lord, hear our prayers.
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Martin60
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G.
Bishops Finger.
I get blood results next week. I'm away and not going to bother till I get back. For a year they've just got worse every time.
[ 08. September 2017, 17:45: Message edited by: Martin60 ]
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Rossweisse
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There's hopeful news in the use of the Zika virus (of all things) to treat glioblastoma, and other new treatments are being discovered and developed. The question is always whether they'll come along soon enough for a particular patient, and whether they'll work on that person.
We have to walk in hope. And, to keep this at least semi-Hellish, cancer does suck.
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