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Lothlorien
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Having been through several years of ALL with granddaughter, i send sympathy and prayers for all.
Mili, I hope her mother does not feel she has failed. This can happen to any child, regardless of care etc.
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Mili
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I hope so too. She has suffered from depression in the past and is a great mother, but almost overcareful with her children's care (not bad, just worries a lot over doing the right thing). I'm praying she can stay strong, but no one would blame her for not coping well given the circumstances.
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Huia
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Mili- .
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Landlubber
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Mili, cousin and baby
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Landlubber
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Cancer and its recurrences suck. My beloved husband died after Christmas. All of you here living with this taught me to try to help him live, not wait to die. Thank you.
Those of you who ask for prayer, here or elsewhere on the boards, be assured I do pray. Others I do read and please know that I do so while you weep or curse or carry on living.
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Moo
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Landlubber
Moo
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Uncle Pete
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So sorry Landlubber
Of your mercy please pray for Claude-Yves, beloved uncle and Parrain of my very dear niece. His body, which fought off cancer three years ago, is now riddled with cancer nodes everywhere, and on nearly every available organ. He is in palliative care.
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SusanDoris
Incurable Optimist
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Landlubber
Much sympathy and condolences. I hope you have all the practical help you need to get you through all that needs to be done, and thereafter the warmth of family and friends.
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Bishops Finger
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Landlubber.
Claude-Yves. May he at least be free from pain.
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Rossweisse
High Church Valkyrie
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For Landlubber.
For Claude-Yves.
For all in this unpleasant boat.
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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Really sorry to hear that Landlubber - I was wondering how you were getting on (and remembering your reaction to the ASMS service).
Prayers for everyone else posting/posted about here.
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MaryLouise
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Landlubber
Claude-Yves
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SusanDoris
Incurable Optimist
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Chec-up today. Tumour smaller. No other problems, so Consultant said keep on with Letrozole. Next apt in six months, and then if all still going well, discharge. That sounds okay to me!
Ongoing good wishes to all here
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Rossweisse
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Brava, SusanDoris! (Ah, yes, Letrozole...)
[ 10. January 2018, 22:09: Message edited by: Rossweisse ]
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Landlubber
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Thank you, all.
Claude-Yves and all who love him
SusanDoris: have a good six months and a good review next time!
Curiosity killed: you will not be surprised to hear that we are planning a very simple funeral here (although we hope for some good singing at a thanksgiving service later).
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Rossweisse
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I'm awaiting the results of this morning's bone scan, and hoping the cancer hasn't advanced too much. (I've been at this so long that everyone from the woman at the check-in to the techs knows me from earlier visits.)
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Ian Climacus
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Ross
Susan
Claude-Yves
Landlubber
All, and anyone I've missed (sorry)
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Martin60
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& thanks for all of your courage, to all for your courage.
[ 15. January 2018, 21:43: Message edited by: Martin60 ]
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Rossweisse
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I just heard that the cancer has progressed further in my bones. Now I'm waiting to hear what that means to me.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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I am so very sorry to hear that, Rossweisse.
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Nicolemr
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Oh Rossweisse! ![[Frown]](frown.gif) ((hugs))
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Pigwidgeon
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Rossweisse - More hugs and more prayers.
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Rossweisse
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For some reason, the word "progressed," in this context, bothers me. The cancer spread. How is that progress?
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Blessed Gator, pray for us!
--"Oh bat bladders, do you have to bring common sense into this?" (Dragon, "Jane & the Dragon")
--"Oh, Peace Train, save this country!" (Yusuf/Cat Stevens, "Peace Train")
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Landlubber
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Bishops Finger
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for Rossweisse.
May that further 'progress' (yes, odd word) soon be arrested.
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Martin60
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Rossweisse - your capacity for irony at this time is inspiring.
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Rossweisse
High Church Valkyrie
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I find that a snarky sense of humor is invaluable in dealing with these things.
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Bishops Finger
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![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
IJ
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Colleague's husband died this morning in palliative care; we became friends in these weeks. He was frightened and then not any more. I'm at work because what else is there to do until asked.
I'm carrying around "cells" myself, whatever that means via their phrase "watchful waiting". Been wondering if somehow creation required a devil.
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Rossweisse
High Church Valkyrie
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I am sorry to hear it, no prophet, but grateful that he wasn't afraid at the end.
Cancer (as I have no doubt said before; I find that I repeat myself lately) is the devil.
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Bishops Finger
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for colleague's husband. RIPARIG.
As you say, best carry on as per usual.
Re 'cells', and 'watchful waiting' - IANAD, but this is a sensible option, if said cells are not actually doing anything harmful.
It's certainly true of some brain tumours, such as meningiomas, many of which are not in themselves malignant. It's only when they start having adverse effects, e.g. seizures, that action needs to be taken, if they haven't been diagnosed earlier. If they have been diagnosed, but are not being naughty, then a 'watching brief' is maintained.
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Rossweisse
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Update: I spoke to the oncologist, who told me that the cancer has progressed sufficiently to be a concern. (I'm having a CT scan and a brain MRI in February.) He's changing my meds (the good news there is that I was scheduled to have the Shots from Hell tomorrow, and now I never had to suffer them again).
And when I asked if I should return my new little cat while she's still young and cute enough to be easily adopted, he said no: "I would not plan on an imminent demise." (I do like his way with words.)
Has anyone here had any experience with tamoxifen?
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Tamoxifen was taken by another friend's wife. We blamed it for giving her another 2½ years of life.
Thanks for the comments re what I posted.
I am trying to determine if 8 cups of tea is too many today, and may I please have several more. I suffer from the delusion that tea cures many ills.
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Lothlorien
Ship's Grandma
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My sister had an unusual type of breast cancer diagnosed first in 1997. Several operations and radiation treatmentslater, it has been discovered that only tamoxifen keeps it away. Every time it has been stopped, the cancer returns , so tamoxifen is taken every single day of her life even if that is another twenty plus years.
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It does produce an extremely hot flush every evening on the dot of 9:00 pm, even is sister has no idea of actual time.
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Rossweisse
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Yes, tamoxifen is well-known for its propensity to cause hot flashes. But I'm glad to hear it works so well.
I find it a little amusing that unbearable hot flashes were the chief reason I was put on hormone replacement therapy, which has been associated with breast cancer.
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RuthW
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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Has anyone here had any experience with tamoxifen?
My mother took tamoxifen for five years following her treatment at age 60 for breast cancer (lumpectomy and radiation only, as it had not spread to her lymph nodes). She says it gave her hot flashes, and she thinks it may have contributed to the uterine cancer that was removed when she was 70. She is now 81, and her doctor is not at all concerned about a possible recurrence of cancer.
Edit due to X-post: HRT was implicated in my mother's breast cancer as well.
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Moo
Ship's tough old bird
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I took tamoxifen for more than four years after removal of a stage 1 tumor from my breast. I stopped taking it about ten months ago.
While I was taking it I had hot flashes, but I was having those before I started taking it. After I had been taking it a few months, the doctor specifically asked me whether I had muscle aches and digestive problems. I didn't at the time, but I developed them after about three years. They have continued even though I'm not taking it any more. I'm hoping they stop eventually.
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Rossweisse
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Thank you, Ruth and Moo.
My oncologist did mention the possibility of uterine cancer, but said he wouldn't recommend a hysterectomy - just yearly pap smears, which I get anyway.
I shall see how it goes (she said, as if there were a choice...).
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Martin60
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Just stop it will you!
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SusanDoris
Incurable Optimist
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Originally posted by Martin60:
Rossweisse - your capacity for irony at this time is inspiring.
It certainly is. All best wishes, Rossweisse.
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SusanDoris
Incurable Optimist
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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
Update: I spoke to the oncologist, who told me that the cancer has progressed sufficiently to be a concern. (I'm having a CT scan and a brain MRI in February.) He's changing my meds (the good news there is that I was scheduled to have the Shots from Hell tomorrow, and now I never had to suffer them again).
And when I asked if I should return my new little cat while she's still young and cute enough to be easily adopted, he said no: "I would not plan on an imminent demise." (I do like his way with words.)
Has anyone here had any experience with tamoxifen?
Yes. When I had breast cancer and a lumpectomy 30 years ago , followed by radiotherapy, I was put on Tamoxifen. I took it for years. After five years, people asked me why I was still taking itand I said no doctor has told me to stop! Finally, after ten years, a doctor said to stop, so I did! It had no side effects and whether or not the long time of taking it helped me not to get it again until now, I do not know.
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SusanDoris
Incurable Optimist
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There was no mention of ovarian cancer or anything 30 years ago because I had already had a hysterectomy including removal of most of ovaries at age 37 because of severe endometriosis.
I never had a hot flush! However, I am getting an occasional very mild one now, being on the Letrozole, I presume.
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Rossweisse
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Originally posted by SusanDoris:
It certainly is. All best wishes, Rossweisse.
Thank you!
As for hot flashes, yes, Letrozole will do that.
I'm going out of town tomorrow for a couple of weeks, and my oncologist isn't starting me on the Tamoxifen until after I get back. A vacation from meds!
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Stercus Tauri
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Originally posted by Rossweisse:
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Originally posted by SusanDoris:
It certainly is. All best wishes, Rossweisse.
Thank you!
As for hot flashes, yes, Letrozole will do that.
I'm going out of town tomorrow for a couple of weeks, and my oncologist isn't starting me on the Tamoxifen until after I get back. A vacation from meds!
As a self-appointed expert in the field of consumer oncology, I have two pieces of thoroughly tested advice: If your body allows you to do it, a glass of wine every day makes you happier and therefore annoys the cancer; and don't ever lose your sense of humour - feed it and exercise it as often as you can. Or, as my mother in law always advises - Carry on! I know; some days it isn't so easy.
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Rossweisse
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Oh, I always have my glass (or two) of red wine.
When I was 22, I was borderline anemic. My internist at the time said, "I hate to put you on iron pills at your age. Do you like red wine?"
When I replied in the affirmative (duh), he asked how I'd feel about having a glass with my dinner every night. I allowed as how I could probably manage that. I have done so ever since (except when I knew I was pregnant, or was on meds where it was not advised), and I have never been anemic since. I think it's one of the reasons I'm still around. It's a great little analgesic, too.
And snark helps me deal with all the crap as well.
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