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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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quote:
Originally posted by Doc Tor:
quote:
Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre:
Well, Alan, chaqu'un son goo.

At the risk of spoiling the joke, even a French language pun, we do insist that words not in the common English lexicon are translated for the benefit of those lingually challenged, either in the same post or very shortly after.

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Will someone kindly let us linguistically challenged folk in on the joke?

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It means "each to his own (taste)" (chacun son goût).

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mousethief

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quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
It means "each to his own (taste)" (chacun son goût).

The joke being that "goût" (taste) is pronounced "goo" and it is here referring to santorum (the goo).

[ 11. November 2016, 12:04: Message edited by: mousethief ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Where the fuck is He, then?

Probably bawling out the person on the design team who said that free will was a good idea.

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On sabbatical.

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Still reviewing important things lije the size of mango seeds and nipples on men. The report on the Black Death is due next century.

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Nick Tamen

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quote:
Originally posted by Stephen:
I'm amazed nobody's come up with that crack before though Ariel, although possibly it's more a Brit thing than American?

Rhyming slang? Yeah, probably lost on most Americans.

[ 11. November 2016, 14:16: Message edited by: Nick Tamen ]

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Alan Cresswell

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quote:
Originally posted by Nick Tamen:
quote:
Originally posted by Stephen:
I'm amazed nobody's come up with that crack before though Ariel, although possibly it's more a Brit thing than American?

Rhyming slang? Yeah, probably lost on most Americans.
They wouldn't have a scooby.

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mousethief

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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
quote:
Originally posted by Nick Tamen:
quote:
Originally posted by Stephen:
I'm amazed nobody's come up with that crack before though Ariel, although possibly it's more a Brit thing than American?

Rhyming slang? Yeah, probably lost on most Americans.
They wouldn't have a scooby.
Nice! Cockney slang based on an American TV show. Even the most English of the English can't escape our omnipresent touch.

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Alan Cresswell

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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Nice! Cockney slang based on an American TV show. Even the most English of the English can't escape our omnipresent touch.

If America had the global impact and reach of some little island off the coast of Europe then you could just go and elect whoever you like, and it wouldn't bother us. Unfortunately, America isn't and so the election of a petulant child as President will have global ramifications.

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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Nice! Cockney slang based on an American TV show. Even the most English of the English can't escape our omnipresent touch.

If America had the global impact and reach of some little island off the coast of Europe then you could just go and elect whoever you like, and it wouldn't bother us. Unfortunately, America isn't and so the election of a petulant child as President will have global ramifications.
You say this as if I don't know it. You say this as if millions of Americans weren't in mourning for their country, or afraid for their lives after documented bullying and violence has broken out in the name of Donald Trump and Whiteness. You say this as if the rest of the world is going to suffer more than America. (I could buy that about Iran, which will undoubtedly be bombed into smithereens, God help them.)

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Alan Cresswell

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Actually, I only said it as being an attempted smart-arse way of ending a tangent and returning to the subject of the thread.

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The equivalent here would be if a snap election was called and Ukip romped home with the vote and Nigel Farage became the next Prime Minister.

I wonder how France and Germany will fare in their forthcoming elections. It wouldn't surprise me if they went in a similar direction.

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Marine Le Pen's pretty up beat - the World Service says she reckons thay if the pollsters got Brexit and Trump wrong, they're probably wrong about her getting trounced in the second round* of the Presidential election.

* she seems a dead cert for winning the poay offs, apparently

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Doc Tor
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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
The equivalent here would be if a snap election was called and Ukip romped home with the vote and Nigel Farage became the next Prime Minister.

May has outflanked UKIP on the right, so there's no prospect of that.

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My knowledge of UK politic is miniscule, but I distrust any statements about there being no chance of any particular thing happening.

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Eutychus
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quote:
Originally posted by dyfrig:
Marine Le Pen's pretty up beat - the World Service says she reckons thay if the pollsters got Brexit and Trump wrong, they're probably wrong about her getting trounced in the second round* of the Presidential election.

* she seems a dead cert for winning the poay offs, apparently

Of course a week is a long time in politics, but barring accidents Marine Le Pen will certainly make it through to the second round, although perhaps not in first place. The left is a complete shambles. Juppé looks set to win the right-wing primary and comes across as a safe bet compared to Le Pen. If Sarkozy were to win, it would be hard to know what to do. Like May with UKIP, he has moved to the right of Le Pen on some policies. It is scary listening to her comment on some issues and finding she makes more sense than any mainstream politician.

Could Le Pen could actually win? It's a possibility and has become a lot more plausible this week, thereby making it more likely in my view. The big question is whether voters would then be consistent and vote in a Front National government in the general election that follows a little later. Or whether she'd make a stab at governing by executive decree, which is theoretically possible under the French constitution.

Put it this way, I'm trying hard to draw lessons from across the pond because there is every chance France is next in line for this sort of thing.

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If the Reformation spread in the way it did long before mass communication was ever conceived then this sucker is set to fall quicker than a line of dominos.

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quote:
Originally posted by Doc Tor:
quote:
Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre:
Well, Alan, chaqu'un son goo.

At the risk of spoiling the joke, even a French language pun, we do insist that words not in the common English lexicon are translated for the benefit of those lingually challenged, either in the same post or very shortly after.

Thank you for your cooperation.

DT
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Chaqu'un son gout[circonflex over the 'u' of gout, but I can't figure out how to do it] = Each [to] his/her taste. 'Gout' sounds very much like 'goo', hence the bilingual pun, each to his own goo, in reference to santorum.

Enjoy the veal.

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Kelly Alves

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Gross, gross, gross, gross. Can we all agree to pick a definition of Trump that avoids the chance of impeding on our sexual experience? I don't want that freaking name popping up in the middle of... whatever.

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Kelly Alves

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Ooo, wait, that is a good one, actually. "Getting Trumped" is when you are in the brink of orgasm and the WRONG image pops in your head.

Kinda works as a metaphor for election night, really.

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[/QUOTE]Just goes to show that having a doctorate isn't insulation against being a dick and talking shite. [/QB][/QUOTE]

The author is actually quite intelligent and nuanced, which makes me think you didn't read the piece, nor did you note that it's not actually a pro-Trump article. Read it before you further embarrass yourself.

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This is highly relevant as an analysis of the American scene, particularly the PC doctrine in the universities and resultant attempts to snuff out dissent:

"The narratives of feminism, gender, and race theory provide a comforting prophylactic against the intrusion of unwelcome reality on many fronts. Being assured that you are a victim of evil social forces, hateful individuals, and dark structural processes conspiring against your success can be a comforting belief when the alternative is to admit the possibility of a natural reality or a broadly unavoidable social reality that doesn’t function according to our egalitarian prejudices. The possibility, for instance, that historic male dominance in social power might largely be a naturally grounded phenomenon is much less palatable than the belief that this order results from a profound and more or less universal evil disorder instigated and maintained by the male sex."

https://alastairadversaria.com/2016/11/10/how-social-justice-ideology-gave-us-donald-trump/

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Teekeey Misha
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quote:
Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre:
Chaqu'un son gout[circonflex over the 'u' of gout, but I can't figure out how to do it] = Each [to] his/her taste.

[Linguistic tangent]
I copy and paste my circumflexes, and envy those who know how to do them outside Word! I'd also add an "à" either at the prow or midship - "chacun à son goût" or "à chacun son goût", although it's not essential. You will observe I also prefer "chacun"; I'm led to believe that "chaqu'un" is not a word. Quite an interesting article about it here, including a graph so it must be true!
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Doc Tor
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I'm guessing Pangolin is Quebecois. They do their French differently over there.

And thank you Monsieur, for complying with the hostly directive: I know it's a bit of an arse, but it's Ship protocol.

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Soror Magna
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quote:
Originally posted by Wyclif:
... historic male dominance in social power might largely be a naturally grounded phenomenon ...

So it's natural for men to be in charge. Thanks for the reminder. [Roll Eyes]

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Teekeey Misha
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quote:
Originally posted by Doc Tor:
I'm guessing Pangolin is Quebecois. They do their French differently over there.

Tru dat. I've tried hard not to get too far into understanding Quebecois French as well - it's hard enough knowing how the French do French; damn, it's hard enough knowing how English works and I've lived with that from birth! I'm still trying to cope with learning Spanish and Russian on top of English, having learned French and Latin at school and I am about as far from a natural linguist as one can be!

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Uncle Pete

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Continuing how to do French accent tangent. Most of us who are francophone, or who live, work and play in a francophone environment use a keyboard called "Canadian multilingual standard" Using that, accents are a doddle.

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Kelly Alves

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The iPad keyboard has that option, too.

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Teekeey Misha
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quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Pete:
...a keyboard called "Canadian multilingual standard" Using that, accents are a doddle.

Now THAT should be a universal standard. So simple but so useful.

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I create keyboard hotkeys with AutoHotKey. So for instance when I type o"" it automatically replaces it with ö.

This means I can also program certain key combinations to be replaced with "hot text." For example, when I type qqb it automatically replaces it with [/qb][/quote]. Handy.

Takes a bit of programming skill but not much.

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I haven't any programming skill, so I just look up the unicode characters. This one below is a good reference.

http://unicode-table.com/en/

You can just scroll to find the glyph you want, then if you click on it, it gives both the unicode and the HTML code, which latter you can include exactly as written, within your post, including in the middle of a word.

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Kelly Alves

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(Shipmates gaily caper after tangent like magpies after shiny pennies...)

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quote:
Originally posted by Wyclif:
quote:
Just goes to show that having a doctorate isn't insulation against being a dick and talking shite.
The author is actually quite intelligent and nuanced
He writes in parenthesis and is in dire need of a decent editor, which doesn't necessarily translate to nuance.

I think attempting to posit the 'SJWs' as a kind of year zero against which the alt-right (poor things) are reacting, is missing a lot. He constructs an imagined history in which:

"When the left is using women, racial minorities, immigrants, and LGBT persons as means to attack straight white Christian men, for instance, it is extremely easy to forget that these groups have never been the enemy"

Presumably where the reaction of the Right was that of "adopting a gentle approach to navigating the differences between groups, seeking for ways for people with different values and beliefs to live together in peace".

I keep his blog in my feed reader because it's an interesting bell-weather of a particular strand of thought in conservative evangelicalism. His group blog 'mereorthodoxy' is more of the same - young fogeys crying 'why, oh why, oh why'.

[ 12. November 2016, 20:03: Message edited by: chris stiles ]

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Teekeey Misha
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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
(Shipmates gaily caper after tangent like magpies after shiny pennies...)

quote:
Originally posted by chris stiles:
He writes in parenthesis and is in dire need of a decent editor...

Successive posts. Just saying...
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molopata

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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
I create keyboard hotkeys with AutoHotKey. So for instance when I type o"" it automatically replaces it with ö.

This means I can also program certain key combinations to be replaced with "hot text." For example, when I type qqb it automatically replaces it with

I feel quite blessed with my Swiss keyboard. Fully geared to German and French, throw in Italian there, and it even provides for the Spanish tilda without the hassle of the AZERTY muddle. The QWERTZ layout with only the Y and Z swapped makes it easy to learn coming from a UK/US keyboard, and it even has $ and £ placed above one another (an anachronism, given the rise of the Euro).

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Doc Tor
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Hostly furry hat on

This tangent is over. Go take it to Heaven. Practice your UBB coding. Whatever. Just do it elsewhere.

Hostly furry hat off

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molopata

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Ahem, Yes.
quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
Could Le Pen could actually win? It's a possibility and has become a lot more plausible this week, thereby making it more likely in my view. The big question is whether voters would then be consistent and vote in a Front National government in the general election that follows a little later. Or whether she'd make a stab at governing by executive decree, which is theoretically possible under the French constitution.

In fact, I think Le Pen has already won in the same way as Farage has achieved his goal in British politics. By capturing a sentiment that is present in large parts of the population (and I must admit, in traces even in myself from time to time), she has become a rallying point for fears and grievances, be that concerning immigration, identity, or jobs. And one of her most attractive traits is that she is ready to give the classe politique [political class] a good hiding - what's not to like about that?
As in other European countries, French political parties have gradually been waking up to the threat (in comparison, the American establishment has been amazingly slow to respond to Trump's blitz), and they have started to adjust their own policies in response. I would hazard that in Theresa May we have the sleeker version of Farage, In the same way, it is Sarkozy who is morphing into a more gallant version of Marie Le Pen. On that account, I don't believe that le Pen will be moving to the Élysée any time soon, but many of her ideas will be part of removal freight of the next president, whoever that may be.

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Kelly Alves

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Ok, I think this fits here. If you go back and review those 9/11 threads like someone suggested, somewhere in there you will find me griping about people taking these big, and I mean BIG ass flags and anchoring them into their pickup trucks with broom handles. I believe I told a story about a corner of one grazing my windshield from one lane over.

They are back.

Here's the thing-- under Obama, I was starting to feel like it was my flag again, something I could identify with. Now it's being used as a weapon again.

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Eutychus
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quote:
Originally posted by molopata:
And one of her most attractive traits is that she is ready to give the classe politique [political class] a good hiding - what's not to like about that?

What's not to like about it is that the Le Pen clan is in many ways part of that classe politique. Marine casts herself as a woman of the people very well, but it's a political dynasty much like the Bush and Clinton ones.

Possibly even scarier still is her niece Marion Maréchal Le Pen, the youngest French MP in modern history. At the same time the FN is gradually winning local government seats and building up the political experience it formerly lacked. The Le Pen clan is going to be around for a long time.
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In the same way, it is Sarkozy who is morphing into a more gallant version of Marie Le Pen. On that account, I don't believe that le Pen will be moving to the Élysée any time soon
After what just happened in the US, I really wouldn't rule it out. Even less so if there is a Sarkozy-Le Pen runoff in the second round. Mostly because of the appeal of that "let's stick it to the system" urge.

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Eutychus
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I see the BBC have just published excerpts of an interview with her, here. She has as smooth a discourse as any mainstream politician, far removed from the constant spinning off-message of her father, and to the uninformed and disenfranchised, it comes across as wholly compelling. I know this because I not infrequently hear people, typically the working poor or those on benefits, parrotting her views. I find her totally chilling and consider her a very real threat.

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Curious Kitten
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This showed up on my tumblr feed and via this.

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quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
I see the BBC have just published excerpts of an interview with her, here.

Unless Mme Le Pen is masquerading as a google doodle of Dr Suess, it's not 'here'.

[Disappointed]

(there is this thing called 'Preview Post'. Apparently, it's your friend...)

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Alex Cockell

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Indy article re Marie Le Pen..
Oh what a fucking mess..

A certain GK song that observed this lot back in the 80s...

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Eutychus
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quote:
Originally posted by Doc Tor:
(there is this thing called 'Preview Post'. Apparently, it's your friend...)

My religion forbids me from forcing Preview Post to work on the Sabbath. But if you insist try this (includes video interview with subtitles)

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quetzalcoatl
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O fascism, thy honeyed words are heard once again in the land. Or really, proto-fascism.

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Bishops Finger
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There is, perhaps, some cold comfort in reflecting on the general fate of most fascist dictators e.g. Hitler, Mussolini et al , or, of course, of dictators in general.

IJ

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Net Spinster
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quote:
Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
There is, perhaps, some cold comfort in reflecting on the general fate of most fascist dictators e.g. Hitler, Mussolini et al , or, of course, of dictators in general.

IJ

Franco and Salazar? Their regimes eventually ended but they were around for a long time.

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Bishops Finger
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Oh, and just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, our very own dear fuckwitted fascist Nigel Garbage becomes the first UK politician to lick Trump's arse...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37965089

I know you Americans have enough to cope with, but please could you quietly intern him whilst he's on your side of the pond? And then lose the key?

IJ

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Bishops Finger
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Thanks, Net Spinster - I had forgotten Franco and Salazar (doubtless there were others who, as you say, lasted a long time).

* sighs wistfully * - I was perhaps just dreaming hopefully...

IJ

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