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Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre:
I was just watching CNN (actually, it was in the background), and the folks at Webster's have stepped up and said that "alternative facts" do not exist as facts, but as incorrect statements or lies. Good on them.
Be that as it may, I'm calling it now that this year's Oxford dictionary word(s) of the year will be "alternative facts"
Which is a big call. Not because it's only January. But because it's a Trump presidency.
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While we were laughing about this at home yesterday, an old friend called to say he'd just heard one of the trumplings complaining that "the facts have a liberal bias".
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The alt-right like alt-facts.
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Leorning Cniht: quote:
It doesn't mean we can relax now, because there are real people whose lives are affected now by hatred and bigotry, and it's cold comfort to tell them that in a hundred years it'll be better.
We can't relax at all, because rights can be taken away. Yes, Mrs I-want-to-repeal-the-Human-Rights-Act May, I am looking at YOU.
Women in England had fewer rights at the end of the seventeenth century than they did at the beginning.
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Originally posted by mousethief:
I see. Now if we can just get the younger generations to give a fart about income/wealth inequality.
You know the old saw about the young conservative having no heart, and the old liberal having no brain. I don't think that one's as sticky.
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Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
While we were laughing about this at home yesterday, an old friend called to say he'd just heard one of the trumplings complaining that "the facts have a liberal bias".
Origin of above quote, via Paul Krugman.
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I guess it makes things a lot easier in the orange one's imaginary kingdom if you simply disagree with the facts.
Don't like global warming? Lalalala. Don't like that huge crowds don't want to see your inauguration? Yes they did. Wahhhh. Think women are fine with your misogyny? Kellyanne thinks it's OK.
These bozos are never going to listen to reason or believe that they can ever be wrong.
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Originally posted by jedijudy:
I guess it makes things a lot easier in the orange one's imaginary kingdom if you simply disagree with the facts.
Don't like global warming? Lalalala. Don't like that huge crowds don't want to see your inauguration? Yes they did. Wahhhh. Think women are fine with your misogyny? Kellyanne thinks it's OK.
These bozos are never going to listen to reason or believe that they can ever be wrong.
He didn't really lose the popular vote either -- it was just all those illegals voting for Hillary. All real Americans love him.
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That was why the March was so important. The Chief Ogler only understands crowds, numbers of people. If the largest protest march in history was against him, it is more real (bigly!) than any other attack.
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
That was why the March was so important. The Chief Ogler only understands crowds, numbers of people. If the largest protest march in history was against him, it is more real (bigly!) than any other attack.
But he'd probably say that obviously all of the millions who marched were illegals (mostly Mexicans and Moslems) who were paid by Hillary.
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Wow, Hill must've had plenty of money! Even at a dollar a pop, that'd be over a million dollars for DC alone.
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Not Hillary. It was Soros. Someone's proved it. Down the other trouser leg, of course.
(I keep using this picture. I first met it in a book by Fred Hoyle about cosmology, in which he postulated that a possible shape for the universe was trouser shaped. The idea is that as time develops, it is impossible for parts of the universe moving down one leg to no longer have contact with parts down the other leg.
An example of its fictional use is the new version of Star Trek, in which the events of the first new film have split the universe and mean that what happened in the original series is now lost down one leg, while the new series makes it way down another. Is that right, Brenda?
In the case of Trump, the alternative facts clearly belong to a version of the universe which is not the one we are inhabiting. Hence the other trouser leg.
Hope this isn't a case of grandmother education in ovo-suction.)
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Meanwhile, I pity the screenwriters of "House of Cards", the first real victims of Trump's presidency. After all the drama and treachery of the first four series, they are faced with the hopeless choice of either continuing as they have and creating a bland plot of boredom, or trying to outdo the Trump reality show and winding up in the realm of psychedelic absurdity.
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Originally posted by Penny S:
Not Hillary. It was Soros. Someone's proved it. Down the other trouser leg, of course.
(I keep using this picture. I first met it in a book by Fred Hoyle about cosmology, in which he postulated that a possible shape for the universe was trouser shaped. The idea is that as time develops, it is impossible for parts of the universe moving down one leg to no longer have contact with parts down the other leg.
An example of its fictional use is the new version of Star Trek, in which the events of the first new film have split the universe and mean that what happened in the original series is now lost down one leg, while the new series makes it way down another. Is that right, Brenda?
In the case of Trump, the alternative facts clearly belong to a version of the universe which is not the one we are inhabiting. Hence the other trouser leg.
Hope this isn't a case of grandmother education in ovo-suction.)
I believe Hoyle was too modest. It's not two legs. It's an infinite number of them. The pleasant thing about this is that any subset of an infinite number is infinite; this means that somewhere there are an infinite number of universes when Tiny Fingers is a street sweeper.
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So Terry Pratchett was right about the Trousers of Time after all?
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As I was writing, I thought, hang about, it's not just two legs, but I hadn't got as far as infinity, just working with an octopus. And I thought that would be confusing enough!
Yes, TP was correct.
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Penny S: quote:
In the case of Trump, the alternative facts clearly belong to a version of the universe which is not the one we are inhabiting. Hence the other trouser leg.
I wish our Trump would disappear down a trouser leg with a weak bladder above it.
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Originally posted by Penny S:
As I was writing, I thought, hang about, it's not just two legs, but I hadn't got as far as infinity, just working with an octopus. And I thought that would be confusing enough!
I only know because, yes, I am writing a novel.
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Her Eyes, dear God, Her eyes.
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There's a lot of plastic going on with that woman.
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
There's a lot of plastic going on with that woman.
If she actually paid for that face, she should sue for malpractice.
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quote:
Originally posted by molopata:
Meanwhile, I pity the screenwriters of "House of Cards", the first real victims of Trump's presidency. After all the drama and treachery of the first four series, they are faced with the hopeless choice of either continuing as they have and creating a bland plot of boredom, or trying to outdo the Trump reality show and winding up in the realm of psychedelic absurdity.
I said quite some time ago that all this was making House of Cards look like a tame documentary.
I can't help wondering whether the next episode of Designated Survivor will have to be put off indefinitely for similar reasons.
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You saw that South Park has thrown in the towel. It is no longer possible for them to make fun of Lyin' Don. Over on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me (a comedic radio show revolving around current events) they had to plead with the Abuser in Chief to slow down, because the fire-hose flood of risible material was so great that they could not cope.
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Originally posted by Pyx_e:
Her Eyes, dear God, Her eyes.
Rode hard and put away wet.
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Originally posted by passer:
I'm sure she's in here somewhere.
quote:
Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
There's a lot of plastic going on with that woman.
Really? You find it necessary to resort to comments about her physical appearance when she provides so much material for legitimate ridicule?
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Normally, I would agree that criticising someone's appearance instead of their actions and words is not correct, but sometimes, the appearance does seem to reflect the internal state and to indicate what sort of person a person is. Which may be the case here.
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Originally posted by Penny S:
Normally, I would agree that criticising someone's appearance instead of their actions and words is not correct, but sometimes, the appearance does seem to reflect the internal state and to indicate what sort of person a person is. Which may be the case here.
I've seen any number of people remark that she must be someone's RL "Portrait of Dorian Grey".
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Originally posted by me:
There's a lot of plastic going on with that woman.
quote:
Then this by W Hyatt:
Really? You find it necessary to resort to comments about her physical appearance when she provides so much material for legitimate ridicule?
The double entendre is lost on you. Plastic means fake. The reflection was fake appearance and fake statements. She's got the face & donald her equally blond master, the hair. Two fake fakers. Really fake. Huge fakers. Terrible.
In fact she had referred to her made-up massacre twice before she was caught: Cosmo mag 29 Jan,
TMZ video interview.
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Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
quote:
Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
While we were laughing about this at home yesterday, an old friend called to say he'd just heard one of the trumplings complaining that "the facts have a liberal bias".
Origin of above quote, via Paul Krugman.
What a hilarious comment. I'm going to steal it right now in a message to a friend.
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It is appropriate to mention Kellyanne's rather outre physica nappearance, because her boss is so driven by externals. To the point where he 'casts' his cabinet by selecting people who look the part. Here is a POST article discussing this in the context of SNL parodies. I would dare to say that she would not have the job today, if she were not slim and blonde. A chubby brown woman would never be considered.
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I wonder whether she made up the massacre herself, misspoke once and was afraid to take it back, misunderstood something she was told by Trump/aides, was handed the story as true, or was handed the story as "you need to go out there and convince them this fiction actually happened"?
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
quote:
Originally posted by me:
There's a lot of plastic going on with that woman.
quote:
Then this by W Hyatt:
Really? You find it necessary to resort to comments about her physical appearance when she provides so much material for legitimate ridicule?
The double entendre is lost on you. Plastic means fake. The reflection was fake appearance and fake statements. She's got the face & donald her equally blond master, the hair. Two fake fakers. Really fake. Huge fakers. Terrible.
In fact she had referred to her made-up massacre twice before she was caught: Cosmo mag 29 Jan,
TMZ video interview.
The double entendre was indeed lost on me - sorry.
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How dare you apologise in Hell, you wicked hotel!
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quote:
Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
How dare you apologise in Hell, you wicked hotel!
And again, all attempts to explain to you numbskulls that Hell is a place where bad behaviour is permitted, not mandatory, are shown to be too sophisticated for the mouth-breathers at the back of the room to grasp.
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quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
It is appropriate to mention Kellyanne's rather outre physica nappearance, because her boss is so driven by externals. To the point where he 'casts' his cabinet by selecting people who look the part. Here is a POST article discussing this in the context of SNL parodies. I would dare to say that she would not have the job today, if she were not slim and blonde. A chubby brown woman would never be considered.
Slim and blonde she may be but she also appears to be unusually bitter, twisted and angry. I suppose that's what Trump likes about her.
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Originally posted by orfeo:
quote:
Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
How dare you apologise in Hell, you wicked hotel!
And again, all attempts to explain to you numbskulls that Hell is a place where bad behaviour is permitted, not mandatory, are shown to be too sophisticated for the mouth-breathers at the back of the room to grasp.
Peanut gallery comments are never required either. The joke is over your head apparently.
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Originally posted by orfeo:
quote:
Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
How dare you apologise in Hell, you wicked hotel!
And again, all attempts to explain to you numbskulls that Hell is a place where bad behaviour is permitted, not mandatory, are shown to be too sophisticated for the mouth-breathers at the back of the room to grasp.
Ah... this must be hell for you. QED.
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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
It's Hell for all of us.
Just one of the reasons I quit
Sioni, former Hell host
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Conway has now schilled Ivanka Trump's clothes on TV - youtube video here.
quote:
"Go buy Ivanka's stuff," Kellyanne Conway, counselor to President Trump, told Fox & Friends co-host Steve Doocy.
Ivanka Trump has a "wonderful line," Conway added. "I own some of it. I fully, I'm gonna just going to give a free commercial here. Go buy it today everybody. You can find it online."
However, this is a little bit naughty (and she has been 'counselled' for it):
"An employee shall not use his public office for his own private gain, for the endorsement of any product, service or enterprise, or for the private gain of friends, relatives, or persons with whom the employee is affiliated in a nongovernmental capacity."
Has she no shame or understanding that being in government is not the same as being in business? That it is not just about 'my side winning'?
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Originally posted by W Hyatt:
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
The joke is over your head apparently.
For the record, I did manage to pick up on that one. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
As did I. Doesn't mean I had to like it.
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But she is affiliated with Ivanka in a governmental, not non-governmental capacity.
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Originally posted by Penny S:
But she is affiliated with Ivanka in a governmental, not non-governmental capacity.
I'm pretty sure that Ivanka's clothing range is not government issue.
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Brenda Clough
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Well I've done my part today to support the Resistance. I went over to Nordstrom Rack and bought a pair of thigh-high tan suede boots, on sale. Needless to say they are not the Ivanka brand but much more funky and cool.
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I've never been a big fan of Nordstrom's (a bit too snooty for me), but I do intend to stop by next week when I'm at the Mall. I think I might even apply for one of their credit cards.
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You need not spend money -- over on the Decluttering thread we are told that one of the secrets of combating Clutter is to never buy anything you don't actually adore. You could go to the Nordstrom web site and scroll all the way to the bottom. There's a Contact Us tab which, if pursued, eventually allows you to send them an email. Drop them a note supporting their decision. I told them that their dropping of the plastic Kardashian wannabee's product had inspired me to go over and shop.
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