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no prophet's flag is set so...

Proceed to see sea
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It is bourgeois and pedestrian to colour coordinate. Better to clash. If clothes be art at all.

[tangent]
I own about 350 ties. I am wearing the flowered ones these days. Also decided to resurrect the wider ones versus the narrow. Those who wear neckties daily can usually tie them in the dark, to the right length.

The real argument is what knot to use. Preferring the four-in-hand myself. The two windsor knots are for the under-confident who are compensating for something. You can tell a lot about the person by their knot. The kent knot is for children.

Windsor knots with plain bulky fabrics tied too short are for lard-asses and lard-brains.
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Myself, I just wear ties; I haven't worked out a theology of them.

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quote:
Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
It is bourgeois and pedestrian to colour coordinate. Better to clash. If clothes be art at all.

[tangent]
I own about 350 ties. I am wearing the flowered ones these days. Also decided to resurrect the wider ones versus the narrow. Those who wear neckties daily can usually tie them in the dark, to the right length.

The real argument is what knot to use. Preferring the four-in-hand myself. The two windsor knots are for the under-confident who are compensating for something. You can tell a lot about the person by their knot. The kent knot is for children.

Windsor knots with plain bulky fabrics tied too short are for lard-asses and lard-brains.
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You can't - ties have been consigned to Room 101.

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Ties are a tool of oppression, deliberately worn by peons to show their subservience to their masters by placing a mock hangman's noose around their own necks.

Burn them. Free yourselves.

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How about this?

Bannon's gone from the NSC

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The anchorman on the news just referred to President Chump. Could he possibly be trying to be as pointed as the satirists? [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by jedijudy:
The anchorman on the news just referred to President Chump. Could he possibly be trying to be as pointed as the satirists? [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Penny S:
How about this?

Bannon's gone from the NSC

The Onion's Andy Borowitz tweets, "Obviously something horrible is about to come out about Steve Bannon but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GOD let it not be a sex tape."

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Borowitz works for the New Yorker, not the Onion.

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Oops my mistake, sorry. Too quick with the send key.

The below is from a friend's online discussion of DC comic book movies; in one of the Justice League cartoons Lex Luthor doesn't wash his hands after using the restroom because, he announces, 'I'm evil!' My friend asserts that this was modeled upon, yes you guessed it, the PGinC.

"Trump contradicts his "germaphobe" claim in THE ART OF THE DEAL, saying that he deliberately doesn't wash his hands after taking a bathroom break during a meeting, as shaking hands and knowing he's making the other guy symbolically touch his junk gives him a psychological advantage."

I have not and certainly will never read the book; my eyesight is limited and must be conserved. Has anyone, who can back up this citation?

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quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
Oops my mistake, sorry. Too quick with the send key.

The below is from a friend's online discussion of DC comic book movies; in one of the Justice League cartoons Lex Luthor doesn't wash his hands after using the restroom because, he announces, 'I'm evil!' My friend asserts that this was modeled upon, yes you guessed it, the PGinC.

"Trump contradicts his "germaphobe" claim in THE ART OF THE DEAL, saying that he deliberately doesn't wash his hands after taking a bathroom break during a meeting, as shaking hands and knowing he's making the other guy symbolically touch his junk gives him a psychological advantage."

I have not and certainly will never read the book; my eyesight is limited and must be conserved. Has anyone, who can back up this citation?

No

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I hate to say that romanlion might be right, but the passage in question contains at least two grammatical errors. They may have escaped him or his ghost writers, but surely not his editors (if he had any).

Regardless, anyone even contemplating shaking hands with him does so at his or her own peril. Personally, I'd rather touch the Ebola virus.

[ 06. April 2017, 03:29: Message edited by: Amanda B. Reckondwythe ]

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Miss Amanda, just make sure that you don't give him a lift in your Daimler.

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Snopes is pretty good on truth checking, Brenda. And Trump is a self-admitted germaphobic hand washer.

I'm not. But I'd much rather shake hands with Angela Merkel. Trump and his friend Bill O'Reilly (and Bannon too, come to think of it) are the sorts of people I'd prefer to shake warmly by the throat.

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If I ever had the misfortune to meet the Toddler, I would take a dump beforehand, and not wash my hands. Then he would be, metaphorically, wiping my ass.

And if he really is such a germopohobe, it might freak him out.

The thing I always find interesting is that this seems to be considered reasonable by a lot of people. TBH, he probably would do this, if he had thought about it. Becasue he is a petty piece of shit.

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quote:
The late, great Stanley Holloway had summat to say about brown shoes (well, brahn boots, anyway):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfb1HaZ0Mo&nohtml5=False

IJ

I really enjoyed that.

..."I'll admit 'e 'ad a nice black tie,
black fingernails and a nice black eye'...

Thanks IJ

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(so good, I wanted to see it after my posts and not only after those of shipmate JBohn from whom I stole it)

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Whew, you relieve my mind very much. (There was no point in asking the comic book folks about it, they were debating Batman and Superman's power dynamic.)

Here is another online comment from an analytical media-centric friend (I got a million of 'em):

"If there is not enough about President Trump to be dispirited (or terrified) by, one need only see a video of him from the Eighties to realize how far his cognitive faculties have decayed.
He was never a wit, but those old TV clips show that he was once capable of a quick reply and, occasionally, a degree of humorous self-deprecation. His vocabulary was larger.
Now he glares suspiciously at questions, head lowered like a tortoise's expecting attacked, and speaks slowly and badly. He never engages with the subject of a question; he simply deflects it dismissively, using only phrases you have heard him say before. When he is in good spirits, he enacts one of the two or three scripts--bluff showman; expansive braggart--that he can do more or less automatically."

We did not use to be able to do this -- go back and view people through time via YouTube videos.

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quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
quote:
Originally posted by Penny S:
How about this?

Bannon's gone from the NSC

The Onion's Andy Borowitz tweets, "Obviously something horrible is about to come out about Steve Bannon but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GOD let it not be a sex tape."
Here's the Bannon piece by Andy Borowitz in the New Yorker. My Dear Wife laughed till she cried when she read it.

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Why does ..... Trump have ..... to speak ..... in ................................. two word ...... clusters oh ........ so s.l.ooooow..l...y?

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Because other.......wise........he can't........follow........his autocue........

(and, as someone else has said, the poor sap's possibly brain-damaged).

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I wonder if it's because he has a hidden earpiece and is being fed his lines by someone nearby, who has to feed them in small chunks because it's all 45 can process without losing his place.

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I wonder what his (disjointed) comments or tweets might be regarding the latest news from Sweden?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Doubtless he will call for solidarity with sadly-afflicted Norway...or Denmark....or Finland....

IJ

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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
I wonder if it's because he has a hidden earpiece and is being fed his lines by someone nearby, who has to feed them in small chunks because it's all 45 can process without losing his place.

What bothers me the most is that he didn't look the camera (i.e., the people) in the eye as he spoke, but glanced off to the side or vaguely into space. Unlike other presidents.

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One of these days, you'll actually be able to see the strings....

Thunderbirds are GO!!!!!!

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I think presidents do look off to the side, when using teleprompters--that's where they are. Some may be familiar enough with the text and have a good enough memory that they can think "oh, right, point A", and go on to talk about point A without much need to check the teleprompter.

T, I think, tends to simply read what's on the teleprompter.

I did wonder who came up with the ideas for the speech. He made religious comments that he usually doesn't, and talked like we're at the outbreak of a world war.

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Brenda Clough
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Particularly fine, since the PG made so much hay about other pols using teleprompters. He was supposed to be Too Smart, not to mention Too Genuine, to ever have to use such a thing. His habit was just to open his mouth and let it fly. If he now has to be sock-puppetted by off-site managers it would be a cruel and lovely thing.

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Golden Key
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The times when T seems more presidential--less bluster, no grunting, no "bigly"--are when he uses teleprompters.

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I noticed that in today's press conference, Trump came up with a gem of an oxymoron: "NATO is no longer obsolete."

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Wait, I thought teleprompters were a sign of a bad president? Oh, sorry, I guess that's only true if the president is black.

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This is notably puerile and juvenile, even for the Toddler-n-Chief.
The money quote: TRUMP: It's so incredible. It's brilliant. It's genius. Our technology, our equipment, is better than anybody by a factor of five. I mean look, we have, in terms of technology, nobody can even come close to competing. … So what happens is, I said we've just launched 59 missiles heading to Iraq and I wanted you to know this. And he was eating his cake.

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I don't know how authoritative - if at all - this site is, but it would be instructive to know how many of trump's missiles actually reached their publicly stated target, and who and what else was obliterated by the the others. A number will have dropped straight into the sea for various reasons, but some will have reached other places on land. 59 out of 59 hitting the stated target is not credible.

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mousethief

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Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
I don't know how authoritative - if at all - this site is

The site may or may not be reliable, but that link took me to a 404.

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quote:
Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
I don't know how authoritative - if at all - this site is [snip]

Yes, who could possibly tell how authoritative a site is that features such articles as "Jewish Banksters Identity Politics", "Donald Trump Controlled by Mossad - Parts I, II, and III", and "MASSIVE US INVASION OF SYRIA HAS ALREADY BEGUN".

By the way, this is probably the link you meant to post.

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quote:
Originally posted by W Hyatt:
I noticed that in today's press conference, Trump came up with a gem of an oxymoron: "NATO is no longer obsolete."

I like this, this is gold.

I'm going to have to see if I can use this logic on people at work. "The rule about eating other people's lunches was obsolete, but now you're after mine, so..."

Hey, I can try.

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Hang on, the president of the US is dazzled by the fact that he can order missiles to be fired and they are is rather like a toddler learning to use the TV remote.

I doubt we will ever get any real figures for where the missiles went. I saw one report indicating 23 hit their target (and someone who seemed to be senior military and involved describing it as a really poor show). In truth, a third probably missed, and some of them probably caused civilian injuries ("The babies. The poor babies").

And it had absolutely no military values. It was Trump showing that his penis sprays his cum wherever he wants (but, like the tomahawk, I suspect the payload is hardly worth the trouble). He is playing the Biscuit game, and telling Assad to eat the biscuit. Assad just crumbles it into the ground, and Trump still claims he won because he came first.

This might be tolerated in toddlers and immature teenagers, but is astoundingly embarrassing in Trump. Seriously, America, can you not get rid of him, before he does something really dangerous?

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And the detail that is most salient to his mind is not the political implications, the possible loss of human life, or the larger meaning of chemical weapons. No! It is that he was able to eat a piece of chocolate cake while ordering this strike.

I have to get a button made. Not a tee shirt, because I clearly will have to wear it daily. We are going across the pond later this year and I will need something that says, "So sorry. I didn't vote for him. We are trying to get him out." I wonder if I can get it in several languages.

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Every American I've met recently starts by apologizing for Trump - I guess ones that voted fro him don't visit the UK?

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Perhaps because they don't know where the UK is...

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quote:
Originally posted by Sarasa:
Every American I've met recently starts by apologizing for Trump - I guess ones that voted fro him don't visit the UK?

Many of his supporters were laborers who feared losing their jobs, and Trump was going to "Make America Great" and get their jobs back. Many were America-First types who see no reason to spend their vacations visiting foreigners. I certainly don't have statistics, but I do think you'd find more world travelers among the Clinton voters.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Sarasa:
Every American I've met recently starts by apologizing for Trump - I guess ones that voted fro him don't visit the UK?

Many of his supporters were laborers who feared losing their jobs, and Trump was going to "Make America Great" and get their jobs back. Many were America-First types who see no reason to spend their vacations visiting foreigners. I certainly don't have statistics, but I do think you'd find more world travelers among the Clinton voters.
And the problem there was that "Clinton voters" didn't vote. FWIW I think Clinton took them for granted.

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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
And the problem there was that "Clinton voters" didn't vote. FWIW I think Clinton took them for granted.

We voted -- more of us than voted for Trump. We just didn't get the right numbers in the right states.
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Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
Perhaps because they don't know where the UK is...

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As much as I dislike isolationism, I feel I must defend the American type somewhat. It is a huge country with OCEANS on two of its borders. And those living in the middle* have both a lower overall income and the added expense of extra distance before they can get to a different country. So they will have had less opportunity to travel that the average Brit.
The true shame for many Americans is how little they visit other parts of their own country. This has always perplexed me.

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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
So they will have had less opportunity to travel that the average Brit.
The true shame for many Americans is how little they visit other parts of their own country. This has always perplexed me.

I generally agree - though I would probably qualify the first part as "less opportunity to travel internationally than the average Brit". Though, the EU is comparable in size to the US and how many Brits actually travel beyond the borders of the EU?

And, added to the opportunities to travel are the generally miserly allowance for paid annual leave "enjoyed" by most people in the US compared to most in the UK. It's not easy to go anywhere if you don't have the time.

But, there certainly are people in the US with little or no knowledge of their own country. The woman at the internationally known car rental company who took our call when we struggled into Santa Fe on the spare wheel, with another tyre almost bald and the suspension shot who was insistant that we had voided the warrantee by taking the car out of the country being a case in point. I bet she voted Trump. "I'm afraid you're mistaken my dear. We are not in Mexico, we are in New Mexico, and that is still within the borders of the United States of America".

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Originally posted by Stercus Tauri:
I don't know how authoritative - if at all - this site is [snip]

Yes, who could possibly tell how authoritative a site is that features such articles as "Jewish Banksters Identity Politics", "Donald Trump Controlled by Mossad - Parts I, II, and III", and "MASSIVE US INVASION OF SYRIA HAS ALREADY BEGUN".

By the way, this is probably the link you meant to post.

Right - posting too late at night again.

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"Look, I've got the absolutely massive bomb with a huge blast. No, I'm not trying to make up for personal deficiencies."

Given the size of his bomb, I can only presume his penis is absolutely microscopic.

More importantly, this is not a precision weapon. It's purpose is to devastate a vast area - miles across. It will kill and injure everyone in a huge area, irrespective of their ISIS sympathies.

I have seen reports that ISIS in Afghanistan has, possibly, 1000 adherents. It is not a large contingent, and this action will make a minor difference to the battle.

But he has done it now. So next time, when he needs to up the ante, he has nothing left. Rather, nothing that bears thinking about.

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Our only hope is that he has the attention span of a gnat. Today, big bombs. Maybe tomorrow, pussies again? Tax reform? Mexican rapists? Whatever. He's not consistent in anything, even turpitude. At some point the stopped clock will be right.
Perhaps this will help distract him. I will be there, marching in downtown DC with some charming signs. The punny ones say "Putin Your Money Where Your Mouth Is" and "Where Czar Your Taxes?"

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quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
And the problem there was that "Clinton voters" didn't vote. FWIW I think Clinton took them for granted.

We voted -- more of us than voted for Trump. We just didn't get the right numbers in the right states.
[Frown]

Amen. T and/or Russia managed to get enough electoral college votes. Clinton won the popular vote--*millions* more than T. Without the electoral college system, T wouldn't be in the White House (when he's there).

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quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
And the problem there was that "Clinton voters" didn't vote. FWIW I think Clinton took them for granted.

We voted -- more of us than voted for Trump. We just didn't get the right numbers in the right states.
[Frown]

Amen. T and/or Russia managed to get enough electoral college votes. Clinton won the popular vote--*millions* more than T. Without the electoral college system, T wouldn't be in the White House (when he's there).
OK, OK. Not enough votes where they mattered, like Florida, Ohio and Iowa, the traditional bellwether states.

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
This is notably puerile and juvenile, even for the Toddler-n-Chief.
The money quote: TRUMP: It's so incredible. It's brilliant. It's genius. Our technology, our equipment, is better than anybody by a factor of five. I mean look, we have, in terms of technology, nobody can even come close to competing. … So what happens is, I said we've just launched 59 missiles heading to Iraq and I wanted you to know this. And he was eating his cake.

Well, that interview seems to reveal what it was really all about - showing off in front of Xi.

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Originally posted by Stumbling Pilgrim:
Iraq

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