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lilBuddha--

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quote:
Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
Perhaps because they don't know where the UK is...

IJ

As much as I dislike isolationism, I feel I must defend the American type somewhat. It is a huge country with OCEANS on two of its borders. And those living in the middle* have both a lower overall income and the added expense of extra distance before they can get to a different country. So they will have had less opportunity to travel that the average Brit.
The true shame for many Americans is how little they visit other parts of their own country. This has always perplexed me.

Thank you for this!
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Lots of people do travel within the States, and within their own states. But it's expensive, and often difficult. By car? Well, you've got to have one; be able to afford gas; and be able to deal with traffic, cranky co-riders for many long hours, repairs, and getting lost. (GPS directions aren't necessarily accurate, and there've been news stories of people winding up in bad situations.) Planes? Expensive; you have to deal with all the security stuff; and you can get your head bashed, as you are hauled out of your paid-for seat. Trains? Fun, but they don't go everywhere, and they take a long time. Long-distance bus (Greyhound, etc.)? A much longer time than trains; cramped seating; scheduled stops at all hours--BUT sometimes they'll cancel the bus you're on, while you're on it, and dump you in a station at odd hours to wait hours for the next bus.

Plus you've got to pay for lodging (unless you can manage to stay with a friend or relative) or a tent-camping space. Plus food.

Plus Americans don't get much paid vacation (and bosses often frown on actually using it). Many, many people don't get any at all.

Plus busy, entangled, over-booked lives. Given all of the above, many people who *do* have paid vacation time take "stay-cations". You still live at home; but maybe play tourist in your own area, catch up on household chores and repairs and medical appointments--and sleep. If you don't have vacation time, then you do some of that on weekends.

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Yep. Vacations are for dpoing all the critical shit that you couldn't get done during the work week, like seeing doctors, fixing the car, doing your taxes, painting the house...

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Alan--

Thanks for the understanding you displayed!

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
But, there certainly are people in the US with little or no knowledge of their own country. The woman at the internationally known car rental company who took our call when we struggled into Santa Fe on the spare wheel, with another tyre almost bald and the suspension shot who was insistant that we had voided the warrantee by taking the car out of the country being a case in point. I bet she voted Trump. "I'm afraid you're mistaken my dear. We are not in Mexico, we are in New Mexico, and that is still within the borders of the United States of America".

Yes. Before the Olympics in Australia, an American in New Mexico called the US number for buying tickets. Ran into the same problem you did. "New Mexico, Old Mexico, I don't care. If you're not from the US, you can't buy tickets here."

I don't understand not at least recognizing the *name* of a state. Now, if you sat me down with a blank map of the US, I'd have some problems with what goes where. I know which things are in which part of the country, but I tend to forget what's next to what. I do periodically look at a map to remind myself, and occasionally play a geography game online.

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I once had a FedEx driver refuse to pick up a package from where I worked because it was going to Alaska, which is in Canada, not in the U.S. So obviously the address was wrong, in addition to which it would need different paperwork for a 'foreign' destination.
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
though I would probably qualify the first part as "less opportunity to travel internationally than the average Brit".

I think I said this as well.
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Though, the EU is comparable in size to the US and how many Brits actually travel beyond the borders of the EU?

True. But within the EU, there are many cultures to enjoy. For those who bother to learn and engage, that is.


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But, there certainly are people in the US with little or no knowledge of their own country.

When looking for a tourist spot in a town with very few, it did not appear where the map indicated. So spoke with a pleasant young girl in the closest shop. She had no idea of the place I was seeking, so I left and went round a corner, finally seeing the sign for my destination. Right. Across. The. Street. From. The. Shop.


quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
"Look, I've got the absolutely massive bomb with a huge blast. No, I'm not trying to make up for personal deficiencies."

The mission was begun under Obama, which is why Trump and Spicer speak so strangely when asked if they authorised it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
He is borderline obese -- not my description, but his tame doctor's, so it must be true. Such figures are hard to clothe elegantly.

I find that very hard to believe. To my eye, being in the same category, he looks to be on the borderline between obese and morbidly obese, and more likely just plain morbidly obese.

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He has had no medical or psychiatric evaluation available to the public. Nor will he, you can bet. For all we know the Russians have a transmitter embedded in his skull.

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quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
I think presidents do look off to the side, when using teleprompters--that's where they are. Some may be familiar enough with the text and have a good enough memory that they can think "oh, right, point A", and go on to talk about point A without much need to check the teleprompter.

T, I think, tends to simply read what's on the teleprompter.

I did wonder who came up with the ideas for the speech. He made religious comments that he usually doesn't, and talked like we're at the outbreak of a world war.

President Reagan was the first to use a technique where a bullet proof glass in front of the podium had the text projected on it as a heads up display. OF course he was a mildly skilled actor.
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quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
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Though, the EU is comparable in size to the US and how many Brits actually travel beyond the borders of the EU?

True. But within the EU, there are many cultures to enjoy. For those who bother to learn and engage, that is.

Are you suggesting there aren't many cultures to enjoy in the US? I would beg to differ (and, I remember several occasions where Brits here ignited righteous indignation from US members for suggesting that the US is monocultural). Even from just occasional visits I know the culture of Chicago and Santa Fe are very different (very different cuisine, different language, different attitude to life generally, different heritage ...). New York, DC and Florida are all different again, in their own ways. I've not visited New Orleans, though would love to, or California ... I'm sure they're all different again.

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quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
"Look, I've got the absolutely massive bomb with a huge blast. No, I'm not trying to make up for personal deficiencies."

The mission was begun under Obama, which is why Trump and Spicer speak so strangely when asked if they authorised it.
The entire operation might have been Obama, but scaling it up like this is Trump. I don't believe that they dropped a device that size without explicit authorisation from Washington.

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I don't think they'd be *allowed* to drop it, without specific permission from T, since he's commander-in-chief.

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Anyone see the latest anti-Trump protest? Not another march (been plenty of those), letter writing, hat knitting or anything quite as down to earth as that.

Yes, the latest anti-Trump protest is also the first ever protest in space.

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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
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Though, the EU is comparable in size to the US and how many Brits actually travel beyond the borders of the EU?

True. But within the EU, there are many cultures to enjoy. For those who bother to learn and engage, that is.

Are you suggesting there aren't many cultures to enjoy in the US? I would beg to differ (and, I remember several occasions where Brits here ignited righteous indignation from US members for suggesting that the US is monocultural). Even from just occasional visits I know the culture of Chicago and Santa Fe are very different (very different cuisine, different language, different attitude to life generally, different heritage ...). New York, DC and Florida are all different again, in their own ways. I've not visited New Orleans, though would love to, or California ... I'm sure they're all different again.
This. Arriving in Vermont a couple of weeks after having been in southern California, the differences were readily apparent.

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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
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Though, the EU is comparable in size to the US and how many Brits actually travel beyond the borders of the EU?

True. But within the EU, there are many cultures to enjoy. For those who bother to learn and engage, that is.

Are you suggesting there aren't many cultures to enjoy in the US?
No. I am saying that there is a shared base that is stronger than what is shared across European cultures. Whilst there are pockets of non-assimilation, the vast majority has a base of shared Americanism.

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quote:
Originally posted by lilBuddha:
quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
though I would probably qualify the first part as "less opportunity to travel internationally than the average Brit".

I think I said this as well.
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Though, the EU is comparable in size to the US and how many Brits actually travel beyond the borders of the EU?


According to this about 3.8 million Brits visit the USA every year. Quite a few probably go to Canada, too. And I have an ever increasing acquaintanceship with people who love and go to Latin America. And few of us, I would say, don't have relatives and friends who regularly head off to Australia to holiday with family over there. In addition, not every European country is part of the EU, so there are those nations to take into account; often frequented, eg, on cruises and package holidays.

And speaking of cruises - they are fantastically popular with the British; and are not confined to the EU, as you can imagine.

And last but not least bearing in mind how many Brits are ethnically Indian/Pakinstani, African and West Indian, so cumulatively large numbers regularly go back and forwards to those various continents to revisit family there. A casual conversation with your average Brit can easily turn into a travelogue of 'where I went on my international holiday'!

It's a good point to make, that those who live on the British Isles exist on too small a part of the globe to isolate themselves from the rest of it. Though we, too, can fall into the same habit of simply not exploring our own Islands as much as we might. I love travel, but the enjoyment of the varied countryside in Ireland and the UK is really inexhaustible. So I can understand why many USA citizens simply don't feel the need to leave their own shores.

You've got to remember, too, our often crap weather. If one has the money to buy a little sunshine, we're going to go for it!

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quote:
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So I can understand why many USA citizens simply don't feel the need to leave their own shores.

Some do not leave their own states, counties and cities. Some do not even leave their own boroughs! Yes, you can find the same thing in the UK. IME, however, it is well more pronounced in the US.

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In this day of cable TV travelogues, Google Earth, YouTube videos, and an infinity of travel, tourist, and historical websites, I don't think anyone has any excuse. If you don't know about other cultures or places, it is because you are incurious about them.
The difficulty these days is rather to find a place that is unvisited and unknown.

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Traveling in one's own country is a matter of privilege. If a person lacks an education, works more than one low-paying job, has children to care for, no real transportation, and has to go to the library to access google, exploration becomes something outside the reach of a tired, overworked, low-income person.

This is not meant as an excuse for those who are lucky enough to explore and just don't do it. I would hope that people with time and money would use them both to enhance their appreciation of our interesting world.

But I've worked with so many people just trying to keep it together. The idea of a vacation to another city, let alone another region, and the idea of time to spend on websites for the pleasure of virtual cross-culturalism isn't part of their life.

I'm sure this is true in other places as well.

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Yeah, that was my first thought, too.

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Yeah, that was my first thought, too.

On this crowded island full of impatient, cranky people and barely functioning public infrastructure, it's also a monumental pain in the arse.

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I think it is more likely that Trump has a receiver rather than a transmitter implanted by the Russians in his skull. A receiver is a fairly simple device. (I don't actually regard either as likely in absolute terms.)
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quote:
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I think it is more likely that Trump has a receiver rather than a transmitter implanted by the Russians in his skull. A receiver is a fairly simple device. (I don't actually regard either as likely in absolute terms.)

Whatever, it would be more intelligent than anything already in his skull.

Apparently, today he has taken a detour on his way to Mar a Lago (of course - lazy shit), to avoid a protest about his tax returns.

I have farts with more integrity than Trump.

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There were a large number of people at the Tax March in Washington DC. We had a perfect day for it, and the cops closed Pennsylvania Avenue so we could march on it. An eddy of protesters surrounded the Trump Hotel, with cries of "Shame! Shame!" And there was another locus of hooting at the White House, where the tenant has gone off to play golf and so was not there to hear us.
I carried a sign that said "Where CZAR Your Taxes", and on the flip side "Putin Your Money Where Your Mouth Is".
I am no good at estimating crowds, but there were a lot of people. The forecast was for 10,000 marchers.

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Huffington Post puts it at 25,000 in Washington, D.C., and 20,000 in New York City.

I hope there was a demonstration in Palm Beach, Florida as well.

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Reuters UK reports only a couple thousand in DC, clearly low. Perhaps they left early.

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quote:
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I hope there was a demonstration in Palm Beach, Florida as well.

I just found out that there was -- and he had to pass some of the demonstrators on his arduous journey from Mar-a-Lago to his private golf course.

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I was at someone's house yesterday where there was an aerial photo of a golfing area in Florida. If his place is anywhere like that one, he is going to have a serious problem with sea level changes.
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I have a theory ("and it is my theory, and it is mine"--Ann Elk [Biased] ) that T has used his real estate holdings to build his own, self-focused world. He can move from one part to another, without spending much time anywhere else.

So he can go from his home in Trump Towers to one of his resorts, and play golf there. He isn't in the White House much, because it's not *his*--no matter how much he redecorates. Plus he never really wanted the job. So he heads down to Mar-al-Lago as often as he can.

I don't know how he gets the fast food he loves (McDonald's, AFAIK). Maybe he sends someone?

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Are you saying we should tactically support cutting climate change prevention so we can see him drown as fast as possible?

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quote:
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[...] I don't know how he gets the fast food he loves (McDonald's, AFAIK). Maybe he sends someone?

There's not really much need for this. According to several news outlets, e.g. the Miami New Times, his hotel staff are already trying their best to poison him and his guests.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Golden Key:
[...] I don't know how he gets the fast food he loves (McDonald's, AFAIK). Maybe he sends someone?

There's not really much need for this. According to several news outlets, e.g. the Miami New Times, his hotel staff are already trying their best to poison him and his guests.
I can see a Nobel Peace Prize ( or a short-listing, at least) and the undying gratitude of most of the world for whoever manages it.
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I think it is more likely that Trump has a receiver rather than a transmitter implanted by the Russians in his skull. A receiver is a fairly simple device. (I don't actually regard either as likely in absolute terms.)

There should be plenty of room for both.

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Golden Key - undoubtedly. He is not unusual in that - many of the extremely wealthy do that. And trump, despite probably not being anything like as wealthy as he claims, wants to be in that club.

The problem is that as President, he should be in the White House, precisely because it is not his own house. It is the representation of the office, and should give a sense of the significance of the office to the current holder.

For Trump, I presume, he hates being there because it makes him realise just how totally unfit for such an office he is. It reminds him that the people who occupy that office are usually great men who struggle with the burdens of the office, who take genuine responsibility for being president.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wesley J:
Are you saying we should tactically support cutting climate change prevention so we can see him drown as fast as possible?

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Not at all. He'd only move to a higher level site! And sue the government.
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quote:
Originally posted by Penny S:
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Originally posted by Wesley J:
Are you saying we should tactically support cutting climate change prevention so we can see him drown as fast as possible?

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Not at all. He'd only move to a higher level site! And sue the government.
Perhaps the penthouse of Trump Tower.

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As a little change of subject: maybe this has already been brought up, but does anyone else think The Donald and Melania have cheesy nouveaux riche taste in furnishings? Not important in the grand scheme of things but...geez!

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Well, much of my furniture is second hand, so perhaps I shouldn't judge. [Smile] However, if I'd leveraged a lifestyle with bankruptcy and not paying workers, etc. I might want something glittery to distract from the smoke and mirrors.

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I've often said that having wealth is not synonymous with having taste. Trump epitomizes this.

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This should amuse: Invaka leaves notes for her babysitter. It's the New Yorker and should be a free click.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
I've often said that having wealth is not synonymous with having taste. Trump epitomizes this.

I've long felt that the most expensive cars are also the ugliest.

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Lyda--

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As a little change of subject: maybe this has already been brought up, but does anyone else think The Donald and Melania have cheesy nouveaux riche taste in furnishings? Not important in the grand scheme of things but...geez!

I'm not knowledgeable about eras of architecture and design; but it looks part Baroque, and maybe Marie Antoinette's era. I can see her sitting in one of those chairs, with her piled-up wig.

Might be fun, for the occasional special dinner. But I'd find it overwhelming, whether the real thing or a Florida knock-off.

T has a thing about gold. Everything has to be gold. Even his toilet in Trump Towers. And there were rumors he might put a golden toilet in the White House, too. I wonder if that's a take-away from Norman Vincent Peale's positive thinking sermons? Visualize what you want (wealth, power, self-worth, finally getting your father's love because you *won*); surround yourself with it; and you'll achieve it.

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My son (an industrial chemist) and husband spent a long time yesterday specualting on Trump's gold lifts (elevators) and what they are probably made of. Strange the conversations the man inspires.

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I think I read somewhere that some person, possibly Freud, made some connection between gold and excreta - which makes the gold loos somehow meaningful in a way Trump probably doesn't think of.

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quote:
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I think I read somewhere that some person, possibly Freud, made some connection between gold and excreta

King Lear in one of his mad speeches does so. He likens wealth to constipation and says the rich should take a purge so it ends up with the poor. It's one reaction to the trickle down theory.

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Well he does shit on people.

It does seem that people who want to put on a show of wealth and power use a lot of gold. Whereas people who actually do, don't.

I think the reason Trump isn't open about his tax returns and finances is that he is actually bankrupt. That is the last thing he wants to admit.

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quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Well he does shit on people.

It does seem that people who want to put on a show of wealth and power use a lot of gold. Whereas people who actually do, don't.

I think the reason Trump isn't open about his tax returns and finances is that he is actually bankrupt. That is the last thing he wants to admit.

If he's going to quote from the Bible it will always be from Chapter XI.
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[Snigger]

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Maybe that's why he can't get a decent wig and haircut.

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So, Trump has congratulated Erdogan on his narrow (and, by Turkish law, fraudulent*) referendum victory. Not that anyone needed further proof or demonstration of Trump's instincts. This is a referendum which, regardless of the outcome, could not but damage Turkish society along a fault line dividing the cosmopolitan (Istanbul, Ankara, Izmir) from the rural. Rather familiar.

In my current employ, I have noticed a surprising number of well-educated Turkish applicants; many were last employed in Turkey until some time just after the coup (or, 'coup') attempt last summer. Should I expect to see more American applicants in the near future?

*I believe that the figure I heard was in excess of 3 million ballots that did not bear the verification stamp (to prevent ballot box stuffing) were counted on order of the supreme election court. That is in excess of Erdogan's margin of victory.

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The "dialogue" with North Korea seems to be running more or less like this:

Trump: My big penis-shaped object [bomb] went an orgasmic "kaboom!", but yours [missile test] only went "pop".

North Korea (through their Ambassador to the UN): You [the USA] are creating a dangerous situation in which thermonuclear war may break out at any moment.

Rest of the World: it's like two tantrum-prone toddlers in a petrol station playing with matches.


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It looks like Bill Clinton was right when he said, after a visit there, that the North Korea- South Korea was the most frightening place on Earth.

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