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Erroneous Monk
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I think there is an argument for impounding all Adrians. 33% of the Adrians I know can be quite annoying.

And I shot a man in Tesco, just to watch him die.

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OI! I resemble that remark!


"It becomes soon pleasantly apparent that change-ringing is by no means merely an excuse for beer" Charles Dickens gets it wrong, 1869

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Leorning Cniht
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Originally posted by Mark Wuntoo:
if he was doing it in the name of GOD or ISIS or whoever it might be expected that he would shout something.

You're making a judgement about whether this man was a terrorist or a nutter based on how shouty he was?

Consider the IRA. They had a terror campaign for a long time, with basically no shouting. Bombs generally don't shout much, and are a well-known terror weapon.

Let's suppose for a while that he did intend an act of terror. Perhaps he thought shouting was superfluous, because he thought the press would draw the right conclusion given that he's a beardy man with an Islamic name. Perhaps he thought that uncertainty over whether this was "terror" or not was worse than knowing. Perhaps he was concentrating on killing people and not wasting time shouting. Perhaps he was just not very good at being a terrorist. Perhaps he did his shouting in the car and nobody heard him.

And does it matter? Everyone, AFAIK, agrees that he was a lone actor. That being the case, what difference does it make whether he thought he was a soldier of God making a strike against the infidel or whether he was an angry man irrationally upset because he'd just run out of milk?

Assuming that he thought he was doing God's work, can we learn anything new about how people like him are radicalized from his case? If not, does it matter?

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Mark Wuntoo
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Not making a judgement nor 'supposing' anything.
Just asking was all.
His being mentally disturbed was never in doubt ISTM.

Blessed are the cracked for they let in the light.

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Originally posted by Erroneous Monk:
I think there is an argument for impounding all Adrians. 33% of the Adrians I know can be quite annoying.

One of Tony Blair's speech writers thought that he was too hardline on law and order and, towards the end of his stint, wrote a spoof paper suggesting that the Prime Minister ought to have the power to imprison at will anyone named 'Gordon' (Brown) or 'Ed' (Balls). The paper was returned to him with a note at the bottom, in the Prime Minister's hand saying: "this is the best thing that you have ever written".

How easy it would be to live in England, if only one did not love her. - G.K. Chesterton

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