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Welease Woderwick
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So decide that it is not a date [in your own mind] - just go out for dinner with him and enjoy. If it leads on to something else then good, if it doesn't you've still deepened a good friendship.
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
So decide that it is not a date [in your own mind] - just go out for dinner with him and enjoy. If it leads on to something else then good, if it doesn't you've still deepened a good friendship.
Wise words from WW. Looking forward to hearing how it goes. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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If he's not a total stranger and you already know him then no worries. That does make it easier.
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
just go out for dinner with him and enjoy. If it leads on to something else then good, if it doesn't you've still deepened a good friendship.
Precisely.
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And if it's not a date date, offer to pay half or your share (you can get stung paying half). That keeps it in the deepening friendship stakes rather than turns it into expectations until you're ready.
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Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:
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Originally posted by ecumaniac:
He asked, so let him pay. You could offer to pay for the tip if you like.
No no no no no no no no no no don't do that....
That tells him you think he's cheap and won't tip properly. Paying the tip is part of paying for dinner.
Oh ok. This is probably a USA vs EU thing.
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LOL, now we are over thinking comet's date.
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
So decide that it is not a date [in your own mind] - just go out for dinner with him and enjoy. If it leads on to something else then good, if it doesn't you've still deepened a good friendship.
ah!
darling, you always know just the right thing to say. this is of course the right tack.
whew. sometimes I just think myself right up my own ass and can't find my way out.
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And I'd leave the chopped-off moose head at home ![[Biased]](wink.gif) Have fun!
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Leorning Cniht
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
LOL, now we are over thinking comet's date.
No pressure, comet - go out, have a good time, and imagine the SoF peanut gallery sitting behind you critiquing your every move. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Oh, and your choice of outfit needs to be approved in advance by Eccles...
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![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif)
Enjoy, comet...
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Firenze
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And of course we expect a minute by minute narrative via social media.
Actually, no. I was in a Chinese takeaway not so long ago, when a young(ish) man and woman came in and ordered, then he betook himself off, possibly to buy the bottle to go with dinner while she waited to collect. Directly he was gone she was on the phone to a GF - no, he hadn't paid for the food, but he looked as if he might stay the night! Updates to follow.
I thought dear god the terrors of modern dating with built-in continuous assessment and performance review.
[ 27. July 2014, 20:11: Message edited by: Firenze ]
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Originally posted by Firenze:
And of course we expect a minute by minute narrative via social media ...
No no no! Do you want the poor girl to get a second date?
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Originally posted by comet:
Here's the problem: I've been asked on a date...
Dating is a royal pain. It's not all that easy from the other side, either.
But much of that is because there is too much expectation about a traditional "date" and not enough communication. The good news is that it doesn't have to be that way. You are both adults, so do what is comfortable instead of worrying about what is supposed to happen on a "date".
First, express preferences about what you do. At least for some of us that makes it much more likely to lead to a fun time together than if the man has to try to read your mind. Possible responses to help direct the discussion might include:
"That would be great fun! We could [insert things you would like to do and/or places you'd like to go here]..."
"If we go on Thursday we can have Thai food."
"Actually, I'd rather dig clams / fly kites / watch the State Highway arrive / polish moose antlers / watch the sunset together."
"I have to be home by xx o'clock to help the kids with homework / feed the dogs / skin a porcupine / get enough sleep to go to work the next day."
And if he isn't smart enough to take your preferences into consideration, he might not be someone you want to see very often.
You don't have to let him pay for everything if you don't want to, or you can choose someplace that won't break his budget. On the other hand, if he thinks that the honor of your company is worth the cost of dinner at a fancy place (meaning they have tablecloths or french words on the menu), then put some mink oil on your best dress boots and go enjoy yourself!
Of course, in a town that small, everyone will know how it went before you even get home, down to how many buttons were undone on your flannel shirt. If you want privacy you might need to take a Beaver to Skagway.
As far as assumptions about what happens after dinner, my view is that there shouldn't be any. (Hopes, perhaps...) You can help to set expectations during the planning phase if it appears otherwise. And if you hit it off, you get to decide how much of your decolletage to expose to mosquitoes or whether to stop for some tonsil hockey on the way home.
You're adults, you get to make those decisions rather than trying to live up to an outmoded and ill-defined set of expectations of a "date".
Relax and have fun. And if you find yourself overthinking things, make jokes about it.
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Originally posted by Carex:
Of course, in a town that small, everyone will know how it went before you even get home, down to how many buttons were undone on your flannel shirt. If you want privacy you might need to take a Beaver to Skagway.
I do love a Local! You understand! though Skagway is STILL too local. More like Whitehorse or Juneau.
(everyone else: a Beaver is an airplane, get your minds out of the gutter.)
This is actually part of the issue, in a way. He's fairly recently divorced, and his ex wife lives here. it's amicable, as far as I can tell, but you know how talk goes. which makes me think a public dinner might not be such a great idea. I was actually thinking of suggesting to him that we do a hike or a beach bonfire instead. I'll see him tomorrow so I am going to try that tactic.
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Whitehorse? That's in a different country!
I can understand the "everyone will know" scenario very well though, having grown up in a place with a population of about 6,000. When D. and I got engaged, a colleague asked me if we'd be putting an announcement in the local weekly paper. "I shouldn't think so", I said; "by Thursday everybody'll know."
As they say, a feather at one end of the town is a feather bed by the time it reaches the other.
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Originally posted by comet:
quote:
Originally posted by Carex:
Of course, in a town that small, everyone will know how it went before you even get home, down to how many buttons were undone on your flannel shirt. If you want privacy you might need to take a Beaver to Skagway.
I do love a Local! You understand! though Skagway is STILL too local. More like Whitehorse or Juneau.
(everyone else: a Beaver is an airplane, get your minds out of the gutter.)
This is actually part of the issue, in a way. He's fairly recently divorced, and his ex wife lives here. it's amicable, as far as I can tell, but you know how talk goes. which makes me think a public dinner might not be such a great idea. I was actually thinking of suggesting to him that we do a hike or a beach bonfire instead. I'll see him tomorrow so I am going to try that tactic.
Of course, if you go out to dinner on the town everyone will know what you were up to. If you go out of the communal vision, speculation could become rampant about the delicious possibilities.
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If you are interested in someone romantically, but want to develop your friendship first, how do you keep from constantly thinking about them in a romantic sense rather than just a friendship sense? It may just be an INFJ thing with our 'rich inner life', but I can spend so much time 'progressing' mentally with a person when the real-life stuff needs to progress first!
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South Coast Kevin
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
I can spend so much time 'progressing' mentally with a person when the real-life stuff needs to progress first!
Oh my - been there, done that!
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
If you are interested in someone romantically, but want to develop your friendship first, how do you keep from constantly thinking about them in a romantic sense rather than just a friendship sense?
Ah yes, I've got myself trapped rather hideously in the friend zone a couple of times. Lesson learnt, I think - what I've done since then, with people I've been romantically interested in, is try to hang out with them in groups and stuff, and make a point of chatting with them, but fairly quickly ask them out on what can only be construed as a date. That way, I've not given my feelings so much time to race away far beyond the actual state of the friendship / relationship.
I think you can keep dates low-key for a while, if you want to take it slow and easy, while still being obvious that you are dating. Yes, there are risks, I guess - you're putting yourself out there to get hurt by rejection, you might ask 'too soon' before the other person has got a chance to know you and see how fab you are. But for people like me who are vulnerable to the 'friend zone' trap, perhaps it's the way things have to be...
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
If you are interested in someone romantically, but want to develop your friendship first, how do you keep from constantly thinking about them in a romantic sense rather than just a friendship sense? It may just be an INFJ thing with our 'rich inner life', but I can spend so much time 'progressing' mentally with a person when the real-life stuff needs to progress first!
I hear you. For me, I find it helpful to just acknowledge to self that these thoughts/feelinga are present (because denying them is like the old saw about intentionally not thinking of a purple elephant--it doesn't work), while mindfully cultivating the other thoughts as well. That means I intentionally try to see my 'desired' person as I would see any other friend, and/ or I try using the lens I have for desired person on any other friend: the hope is to align the lenses a bit more than I would do otherwise. And, as Kevin said, group interactions are more conducive to platonic thoughts and relationships: if it's too hard to keep the 'friend' lens in a 1:1 situation, it may be wise to limit 1:1 contact for a bit.
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ecumaniac
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Originally posted by South Coast Kevin:
Ah yes, I've got myself trapped rather hideously in the friend zone a couple of times.
Oh my, that link. I have so many feelings about the content of that article. Just .... ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
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Pomona
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Originally posted by South Coast Kevin:
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
I can spend so much time 'progressing' mentally with a person when the real-life stuff needs to progress first!
Oh my - been there, done that!
quote:
Originally posted by Jade Constable:
If you are interested in someone romantically, but want to develop your friendship first, how do you keep from constantly thinking about them in a romantic sense rather than just a friendship sense?
Ah yes, I've got myself trapped rather hideously in the friend zone a couple of times. Lesson learnt, I think - what I've done since then, with people I've been romantically interested in, is try to hang out with them in groups and stuff, and make a point of chatting with them, but fairly quickly ask them out on what can only be construed as a date. That way, I've not given my feelings so much time to race away far beyond the actual state of the friendship / relationship.
I think you can keep dates low-key for a while, if you want to take it slow and easy, while still being obvious that you are dating. Yes, there are risks, I guess - you're putting yourself out there to get hurt by rejection, you might ask 'too soon' before the other person has got a chance to know you and see how fab you are. But for people like me who are vulnerable to the 'friend zone' trap, perhaps it's the way things have to be...
Yeah, I am not in any way afraid of 'the friendzone' because I don't see friendship as inferior to romantic relationships, or friends as vending machines that I put niceness coins into until romance comes out. I've spoken about the sexism behind the term on here before and don't want to derail the thread, but suffice to say it's a term I don't appreciate and does not apply to me in any way.
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South Coast Kevin
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Oh, sorry folks - I was unaware that the term 'friend zone' had some controversy around it. I was thinking it could just as easily apply to women, although I realise the page I linked to was very much from the perspective of men. I meant no offence.
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Doc Tor
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
I've spoken about the sexism behind the term on here before and don't want to derail the thread, but suffice to say it's a term I don't appreciate and does not apply to me in any way.
My daughter uses it all the time, in an entirely matter-of-fact and non-sexist way. She's a different generation, and proscribing terms they find useful descriptors is going to be problematic.
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Antisocial Alto
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It does have an unfortunate meaning in some circles- your daughter may be using it differently, but some guys use it to mean that a girl should be attracted to them and isn't.
Generally used that way by people who believe All Women like jerks better than nice guys (and that's why a particular woman doesn't want to date Me, because I am too nice for her!).
When used this way it's a symptom of an inability to accept that some people just don't want to sleep with you, even if they like you as a person.
See xkcd for an example of this mindset.
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OK, but... you don't want her to know she's using a term that might offend people? (I am 35 and I believe JC is in her early twenties, so I don't think the Nice Guy meaning is generational.)
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Deepest Red
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(Sorry, hosts... I know this is more Purgatory than not - I may even start a thread!)
I do understand that language can be captured by other meanings, and thereby tainted by association. But I'm sure that Jade would find it entirely condescending of me to have me explain to her that 'friendzone' can have an completely innocent definition, revolving around knowing your peers since before Primary school and seeing them solely as mates, and not as potential 'mates'.
So I'm going to leave it as it is. Miss Tor and her peers use it innocently as a simple descriptor. There are so very few innocent things in a teenager's life these days...
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Welease Woderwick
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This morning I secretly promised myself that if someone/anyone carried on this language tangent I would respectfully request them to take it all to Purgatory and then you offer to do so - thanks. This discussion no longer belongs here.
WW
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Reporting in as requested.
After vague conversations the gentleman in question didn't follow up. He had said something about moving and his performance schedule, so I waited and tried to be patient (really!) but yesterday my patience ran out. I left a note on his windshield that went something like this:
Dear sir:
I need your advice. Say someone asked you out, and you were very interested, but that someone never followed up. Would you wait patiently like the patient person you are not, write an odd hypothetical note, or sneak in in the middle of the night like a ninja and kidnap him for your nefarious purposes? Please advise.
Sincerely, Ninja Impulse Money
he called an hour later. Made me dinner. It was lovely.
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Most excellent!
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Originally posted by infinite_monkey:
Most excellent!
Well said, I concur!
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Well done!!
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Yay. But did he explain why he hadn't contacted you?
This is something that continues to confuse me - when men are really keen and then disappear.
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In my experience, it's because they are easily distracted.
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ecumaniac: In my experience, it's because they are easily distracted.
That's not tr
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Come back, LeRoc! Earth calling LeRoc!
Glad it worked out, Comet. Is he a good cook?
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Helluva cook, actually. And a tidy house!
I think it was a combination of easily distracted and nerves. So I just plowed through the nerves in my usual subtle way.
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(Glad it worked out well for comet too.)
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Originally posted by comet:
Helluva cook, actually. And a tidy house!...
Are you sure he's straight?
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Originally posted by comet:
Helluva cook, actually. And a tidy house!
I think it was a combination of easily distracted and nerves. So I just plowed through the nerves in my usual subtle way.
It's obvious. He didn't want to approach you until he'd tidied up...
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
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Originally posted by comet:
Helluva cook, actually. And a tidy house!...
Are you sure he's straight?
well, one never knows, but I'm pretty sure.... ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
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Originally posted by comet:
Helluva cook, actually. And a tidy house!
I think it was a combination of easily distracted and nerves. So I just plowed through the nerves in my usual subtle way.
It's obvious. He didn't want to approach you until he'd tidied up...
but see? That's the thing! between my delivery of the note and my walking in the door we're talking 2 hours, max. if he needed that to tidy up, the place wasn't all that bad to begin with. at least in relation to my definition of messy. Which admittedly would be other people's definition of apocalyptic.
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I'll bet the proverbial farm he was waiting for a Sign. Which you gave.
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
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Originally posted by comet:
Helluva cook, actually. And a tidy house!...
Are you sure he's straight?
Perhaps he's bi. If so, jackpot!
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Pomona
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Did anyone go to the Christian Connection events at Greenbelt, and how were they? I did email them asking if they'd be covering anything to do with LGBT Christians and dating, and expanding their site to include LGBT Christians - somewhat unsurprisingly I didn't get a response!
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Kelly Alves
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That's odd, I thought they were pretty inclusive.
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
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Jack the Lass
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Kelly, Christian Connection is a totally different organisation from Greenbelt - GB *are* (ISTM) pretty inclusive of LGBT folk, but my experience of CC (over a decade ago) is that the vast majority of people who used the service were pretty conservative evangelical. I think if that hasn't changed much over the last decade or so then they would struggle to become more LGBT-inclusive, even if they wanted to, without losing a lot of their regular 'customers'.
We didn't make it to GB this year (didn't work out with timing of other holiday), but I'm curious to go next year. As we are based in Scotland we only have a few years left that we *can* go to GB, before the Elf Lass starts school (up here they start back mid-August and no August Bank Holiday, so coming to GB would mean taking her out of school).
[ 27. August 2014, 11:38: Message edited by: Jack the Lass ]
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Jack the Lass
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Argh sorry to include GB comment in my edit - in my baby-addled confusion I thought I was commenting on the GB thread! ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
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