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I'm on a roll - also hacked back a whole heap of ivy and cleared one of the raised beds. Plus had to empty a bookshelf so I can move it to get the sofa past. (Glory be, have finally booked a council bulky waste collection to get rid of old mattress and sofa.)

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We have dismantled our greenhouse, which had been losing panes of glass in strong winds. No idea how old it was, it was there when we moved in, but the rubber cushioning the glass was perishing.

This means we have find somewhere to keep assorted plant pots, bamboo canes etc. We've bought some shelving to organise our garage.

I keep discovering duplicates - e.g. four pairs of gardening gloves and five watering cans. I'm particularly baffled by the watering cans. Where did they all come from? Did I buy them? Why?

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We spent the whole day at working clearing out some shelves, before moving them. All the tangle of wires, post-it pads, labels, and pens have been sorted out into cubbyholes. The shelves were dismantled, moved, reassembled and cleaned. And then we loaded all the 15 types of copy paper back onto the shelves. The only annoying thought is that nobody in the office will appreciate our work. I will probably get a complaint or two, at most.

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After storing my clothes in a couple of old suitcases for the past two years, some new bedroom furniture will be arriving soon. This has spurred my on to do a spring clean of the bedroom, which is also going to get some new wallpaper, paint, and bed linen. I'll get my dreamy boudoir at last!

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The temptation to merely return everything to it's former place...is immense, but must be resisted.

How though, is another matter....

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At work we had a good time debating what certain things were. Also some things, like the rolodex cards, can surely be tossed. I have assembled a nice batch of equipment, machinery, and the plastic combs for binding brochures together -- nobody does this any more and I have hopes of selling the entire lot on Ebay and using the proceeds to buy a pizza for the office.

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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:

I keep discovering duplicates - e.g. four pairs of gardening gloves and five watering cans. I'm particularly baffled by the watering cans. Where did they all come from? Did I buy them? Why?

It is a well known fact that the best way to locate a lost article is to buy a replacement.

My guess is that when you needed gardening gloves, you couldn't find them amongst the clutter so you bought some more.

Either that, or, like coat hangers, they breed.

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My gardening gloves go on holiday, returning eaten and with lots of companions. I had a really lovely skin-hugging pair that I don't mind wearing but they've gone AWOL.
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Making progress.

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I've been reading here and admiring everyone's hard work, thinking I hadn't done any of late - but I have been decluttering the Dowager's paperwork. She has a habit of opening her correspondence, reading it, putting it back in the envelope and writing, say, 'URGENT' on it - and putting it away in The Box File of Doom [Roll Eyes] .

Or else, she tots up her current assets on the outside of the envelope and stuffs several years' statements in it [Eek!]

In any case, I have now reduced it all to statements etc from this century, removed from the envelopes and filed flat so you can actually see them. And of course had to shred all the envelopes!

I then filed all her letters about her medical conditions in a bright red file. Now, of course , she can't find anything, cue panicked phone call - 'I've been looking everywhere for that letter!'

After all, this is the lady who decluttered her camera into her underwear drawer [Overused]

Mrs. S, just wanting a good grumble [Help]

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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
Originally posted bu RoseofSharon

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At this rate I will have decluttered everything I own and we will still be buried under a heap of total cr*p that Mr RoS can't part with.
[Roll Eyes]

That's a disincentive for me; that by decluttering my stuff I'm creating space for more of my husband's stuff.

In fairness, I have two shelves of photo albums, dated, labelled etc and certainly not "clutter." If I want to get nostalgic about life c1982, I look at my photos. Whereas my husband's memories are tied up in his accumulation of cassettes, lidless tea-pots, chipped cups, too-small sweatshirts, old bottle tops, lecture notes, etc etc.

I could not resist posting this article from The Daily Mash: Man with mortgage and kid unable to throw out rave tapes

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[Killing me]

The latest from the North East Household. I planned to pass on an as-new pre-school book "Explore maths through shapes and patterns", which my own two had ignored when they were pre-schoolers, to the four year old daughter of a friend. I wasn't convinced the daughter would like it any more than our two had, but I thought her parents would recognise it as a worthy book, the sort that's handy to leave lying around when the Health Visitor calls.

My husband wouldn't let me give it away. Apparently, we're keeping it for the grand children we might have in ten to fifteen years, on the off-chance that their taste in pre-school books is more academic than we managed to instill in our two.

[Disappointed]

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We did our second bout of moth-proofing yesterday.

I can now declare the living room comletely declutterd!

It's the first room to reach this heavenly state, and shall be kept that way henceforth.

[Yipee]

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Can one attain a completely decluttered state? I thought that it was only theoretically possible, like absolute zero.

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I suppose if the only things in the room/house are the ones that you actually want to be there, then total declutterdom has been achieved.

Chez Piglet, sadly, has a very long way to go ... [Frown]

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quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
We did our second bout of moth-proofing yesterday.

I can now declare the living room comletely declutterd!

It's the first room to reach this heavenly state, and shall be kept that way henceforth.

[Yipee]

Boogie, if I had posted that I would be tempted to add [Killing me] but I think you are more focussed than I am so it should probably be [Overused]

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And determined!

Determined that nothing will sneak into the living room that isn't already there, having passed all exams.

I am guarding the door 24/7!

[Cool]

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Being offered a swap of my 2 drawer filing cabinet for a 4 drawer one, I have spent today Sorting Out the mountain of paper and Other Stuff that has been masquerading as my desk for the past 2 years.
The top 2 drawers are filed alphabetically, the bottom one has spare reams of paper, and refill yellow legal pads. The last one has my old CD player, which I can't bring myself to recycle because it was a present from my DH, and which might be a Useful Thing one day.
One can nearly see the desk top now, and I have been deploying a duster but without much success. The rest of th room remains a tip. And you can't actually sit in either of the visitors chairs, but it is still a work in progress....

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The top of my desk is beech., who knew......
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Bedroom furniture is arriving today! So at last I will be able to tidy away all my clothes. [Yipee]

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Yes ... except, as is we all know, clothes placed in wardrobes etc. have a tendency to spontaneously breed until they fill up all the available space.
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quote:
Originally posted by St Everild:
The top 2 drawers are filed alphabetically, the bottom one has spare reams of paper, and refill yellow legal pads.

I did read of one secretary who filed everything in her filing cabinet under "J" for "General".

And of an Army Colonel who had three trays on his desk: "In", "Old Bumf" and "Rugger".

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quote:
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Yes ... except, as is we all know, clothes placed in wardrobes etc. have a tendency to spontaneously breed until they fill up all the available space.

IME, the problem is that clothes in wardrobes have a tendency to shrink, thus necessitating the purchase of larger clothes. However, to throw out the mysteriously shrunken clothes is to admit that I'll never fit those clothes again.

I have boxes of clothes (in the loft, so not clutter) neatly labelled "10 stone" "10 1/2 stone" "11 stone" "11 1/2 stone" "12 stone" "12 1/2 stone" "13 stone" - well, you get the idea. No need for me to say how far the sequence goes. [Hot and Hormonal]

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Me too North East Quine - I have jeans in all sizes from 10 to 16 - ten pairs in all!

My 16s are now 'slack' and I am hoping to throw them away soon and move down. I think it's a pipe dream to think I'll need the 10s again 'tho, so they must go [Smile]

A moth was spotted in the (very very cluttered) spare room my brother sleeps in 3 days a week. So, today is the day - another room to blitz.

These moths are doing us a favour in the final analysis.

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Tidied my work//sewing table yesterday and am embarrassed by the many identical packets of needles I kept finding in each layer, owing to my buying new ones as I can't find them. But now it is clear and organised and I am beginning to clean the adjacent table, which appears to have items I haven't touched in at least 5 years [Hot and Hormonal] But once I get that cleared and the drawers sorted I should be able to enjoy the room (and contents) better.

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Spent the last three days emptying, cleaning and reorganising the garden shed, which hasn't been touched for five years.

Amongst other things, Mr RoS took 30yrs worth of old garden chemicals to the tip, including a few that have been made illegal since I bought them. I still have a couple of boxes of garden junk, such as plastic plug trays, strimmer cord and twirly ornaments that I'll put at the gate for people to take over the w/e. What doesn't go I'll offer on Freecycle, and anything left will go in the next load for the tip.
I have an incredible number of new garden gloves, coils of fine wire and packs of plant labels, bought because I couldn't find the ones I already had in the shed. [Hot and Hormonal]

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My brother's room is done, hurrah! [Yipee]

I'm surprised how much of my son's clutter we still have. I am too kind to send it to him as he lives with his partner in a tiny flat in the centre of Bristol. He has house buying plans - so the stuff will be taken to him as soon as he moves in!

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I do not feel in the least bit guilty of loading ten boxes of my daughter's possessions into her husband's pickup truck. Alas, he has never visited us again, I am sure in fear that we will repeat it.

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One of today's jobs is to declutter the airing cupboard. We recently redecorated our bedroom and have new bedlinen but I do tend to keep all the old ones, single sets that our children had as well as our worn-almost-to-holes king size stuff... some vague idea about it being useful as dust sheets...

Nen - quite certain we don't need duvet covers with My Little Pony or Rainbow Brite.

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Not even Hello Kitty? [Big Grin]

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Not even Hello Kitty? [Big Grin]

No. Nor Rosie and Jim. [Roll Eyes]

Nen - partway through the airing cupboard.

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Go Nen! [Overused]

Mrs. S, who still has a single Snoopy duvet cover [Hot and Hormonal]

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No need to blush, Mrs. S. - I suspect that when the ancestral pile is finally cleared out, a single Snoopy downie and pillow-case will turn up. And if it does, I shall reclaim it, even though we don't actually possess a single bed ... [Killing me]

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Currently decluttering the ancestral mansion one cupboard at a time - every time I open a new one I gasp and reach for the rubber gloves!

Also decluttering the freezer Chez Dowager by helping her eat all the ready meals for two that have been gathering metaphorical dust since 2012 or so ... [Eek!]

Mrs. S, who does love her mother really [Two face]

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I am, as always, struggling with the paperwork mountain. My problems with paperwork date back to my childhood when an official envelope coming through the door triggered major stress for my father, who employed the Intrepid Dowager's method of filing (straight back into the envelope, with a note written on the envelope) which has in turn been passed down the generations. Mr Nen couldn't believe it when he was sorting out my mum's paperwork, which had been looked after by my brother until his untimely demise. [Eek!] And yesterday, because I am stressed at work, I caught myself doing it with the post that had come into the office. [Hot and Hormonal]

A little advice please from those who are organised in the paperwork department. A letter comes through the door. Do you open it immediately or ascertain by the look of it whether it needs your attention and leave it till later? Do you set aside a slot in the week to deal with paperwork or do you do it as you go along? Do you file in a filing cabinet or in ring folders (which involves punching holes in paperwork)?

Nen - no clue how to start and embarrassed about being at this point again. [Help]

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Nen:

This is what has helped me keep it down to a manageable level;

Open mail immediately and check if there is anything that really needs to be kept. Throw away junk inserts and only keep the essential bits. Bills to pay and anything that needs action to go in their own pile/folder/ Those three tier desk stands are useful. Action, reading, filing. Then when the shelves are full they have to be sorted.

Pay as much as possible online and go paperless.

If you have a pile of unopened bank statements, just get rid of them and only keep the last few months. You won't miss them. Promise. [Biased] [Hot and Hormonal]

For filing I have box files eg 'Car' is everything car related. 'House' is everything house related. Then I just throw the stuff in. It is not very organised and takes up a bit too much space but I know I can find it. I try to make sure I throw out of date stuff away while I am in the box. Eg last year's insurance policy. I have a special folder for household appliance instructions.

I used to keep 12 months utility bills until I went paperless. Throwing away the oldest one when I filed a new one.

Keep it as simple as possible, anything too complicated won't be maintained and just lead to more mess and guilt.

Also, all those charity and mail order catalogues, flyers, there will be another one along soon so just throw them away without opening or reading. You can always go on the websites to find the latest news.

Mostly when I have had to spend all day tackling a paper mountain I have ended up throwing 95% of it away and wondering why I kept it in the first place.

But just opening the mail immediately and throwing away non essential inserts helps a lot.

I don't have a special time for dealing with it. I try to keep on top of it as I go along.

At the moment I have an overflowing pile and I know I have to deal with it soon. The reason I have an overflowing pile is because since we moved my filing boxes are no longer to hand and I have to make a special trip to the garage to do the filing, which I don't like. I need to sort this out.

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They have discovered that the mere act of making a decision -- any decision -- costs mental and physical energy. So, never multiply decisions. Everything you touch, decide what to do with it and do it instantly. Do not save it to decide, again, about it later on, thus doubling your energy costs. And if you put it somewhere again, there you are, tripling the costs, exhausting yourself.

Touch every piece of mail only once. (Putting it onto a to-be-paid pile is OK, because then you're going to go right through that pile and pay them one right after the other.)

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Lothlorien
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Much of my so called paperwork now comes to me online. I have set up email folders and it is transferred straight to there after action is taken if needed. Many bills are paid by direct debit and I run an eye over online bank statement weekly to check all is well.

I have some quarterly bills which I cannot pay that way. I do get an email reminding me of them, but I have set up a reminder in Google calendar that payment is shortly due. I use that calendar for a lot of things, including monthly meetings and such..

Reminders from it usually work well, although I was surprised the other day to receive a reminder about nephew's birthday which is on fifth December. Google had swapped the date around to May twelfth. Still that's another post.

My computer is set to back up daily to Time Machine on an external drive. I've never needed the back up for bills or reminders but it is there.

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Lothlorien
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Brenda, a link to this research could be interesting reading for some. Thanks.

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Have decided to bite the bullet & clear out some of Mr RoS's old clothes, as he is clearly unable to do it himself (witness: 2 pairs of nylon underpants from the year we got married still occasionally appear in the wash - and we are now past our Ruby Wedding).
Two binliners of too-tatty-to-wear items have gone into the recycling bin today, and one filled to bursting with clothes too big/small for him, or that he never wears, has gone to the charity shop. I've asked him to do it himself often enough, so if anything (else*) has gone that he wanted to keep, well, he's got no-one to blame but himself.

* I donated a jumper he's not worn in 40+ years to a charity shop last autumn - today he told me it was his favourite. I told him that noticing it's absence after six months was a tad too late to save it, so tough luck!

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Brenda Clough
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Some articles on how decisions cost you energy:
Decision Fatigue
and, a particularly fascinating one,
Israeli judges

Someone also wrote a book about it, which is summarized here: Willpower

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quote:
Originally posted by Thyme:
... Those three tier desk stands are useful. Action, reading, filing ...

D. used to have a set of those on his desk marked, "IN", "OUT" and "LBW" (Let the B*ggers Wait).
[Devil]

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It would be interesting to do a study on decision fatigue and supermarket shopping because I think that's the place where it is most obvious in my life and I only shop for myself and Georgie-Porgy who is not a fussy eater.

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quote:
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Mostly when I have had to spend all day tackling a paper mountain I have ended up throwing 95% of it away and wondering why I kept it in the first place.

But just opening the mail immediately and throwing away non essential inserts helps a lot.

I don't have a special time for dealing with it. I try to keep on top of it as I go along.

I am really grateful to you for taking the time to post your advice, and to others who have done that too. I need a concerted effort to get me started. From where I'm currently sitting in Nenlet2's bedroom, which is my temporary study while mine is being decorated, I can see 6 piles of paperwork which need my attention. There are more piles in the other room and downstairs on the breakfast bar. I have earmarked part of tomorrow to attack some of them and plan to report back here to let you know how I'm doing.

Nen - apprehensive but determined.

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@ Nenya,and all who declutter.

Excelsior!

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If I did not know that this is a board where English is used, I would say, per ardua ad astra, colloquially translated as from the pits to the heights or through hard work to the stars. I still remember the principal at High School telling us to aim for the stars and we might hit a chimney pot.

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Ah, paperwork! I have almost finished Stage One of my study. I have rationalised my paperwork into (so far) 41 box files, all of which I have painted the same colour as my study wall, with their subject stencilled on in the same colour as the curtains. They are stacked right up to the ceiling.

I have only one plastic box of paperwork left unsorted.

Stage Two is to go through each box file; I'm aiming to do one a week.

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[Overused] [Yipee] Hurrah, what an amazing amount of work.

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The question is; how did I manage to let paperwork pile up to the extent that even after I'd sorted through it and shredded about a third, I still had 41 box files worth left??

Also, painting and stencilling box files is more fun than actually doing the paperwork!

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