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Boogie
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We have our shredder permanently set up in the utility room with a tray next to it 'to be shredded' papers go straight into it. Then we shred a few when we pass it as we head for the washer etc.
It helps that we are selling about three items a day produced by our burgeoning cottage industry, so we use the shreddings as packing material
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North East Quine
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I managed to catch up on a backlog of shredding on Wednesday whilst I spent 46 minutes on hold listening to plinky music and a voice saying "Your call is important to us. Thank you for holding."
Usually being on hold gives me The Rage. But doing the shredding was a good outlet for my annoyance.
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Huia
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NEQ -thanks, that's brilliant. I feel as though I have spent a lifetime on hold recently with a non communicating telecommunications company and offsetting that with the satisfaction of shredding unpleasant documents would be so satisfying.
Actually I though I had blown a fuse in the microwave using it on the same plug board as the shredder, but after leaving it several days it righted itself, the plug board needed replacing though, but that's what it was designed for.
Huia
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Cottontail
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The trouble is that my bits of paper go back over two decades. I have simply carted them around from house to house, and left a whole pile at my mother's as well. When she downsized, she brought about 4 boxes to my house and left them there - quite rightly, of course, despite my howl of dismay. Once I get the backlog cleared, I can hopefully keep up with the paper on an as-you-go basis.
Ideally I would just dump the lot. After all, I have lived without most of it for years. But there are some precious things in among them. And besides, the whole point of shredding is to eliminate the stuff with personal information on it before I dump it.
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jacobsen
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I've already, in the first flush of glorious achievement, posted this on the Praise and Thanksgiving thread, but it probably belongs here.
I TIDIED MY HALL.AND CLEANED THE UTILITY ROOM.
On the principle of quinquennials, or whatever they're called, that's it till at least 2020.
Dementors lurk in the cleaning cupboard, and can only be kept at bay with chocolate brownies. (In the absence of my furry grey patronusses.) [ 30. March 2016, 11:17: Message edited by: jacobsen ]
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Golden Key
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Yay, Jacobsen!
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Piglet
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Major de-clutterations chez Piglet have begun with my clearing out a couple of drawers in the bedroom dresser and filling a bin-bag for the thrift shop. Small steps, but they're going to have to get bigger.
General Booth's Boutique* isn't going to know what's hit it.
* what a friend in Northern Ireland used to call the Sally Army thrift shop
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Piglet
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I'm now up to three bin-bags for the thrift shop, two for the rubbish-dump and two for the temporary re-location of small bears*.
* The bears won't be de-cluttered: they aren't clutter. [ 05. April 2016, 14:21: Message edited by: Piglet ]
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Pigwidgeon
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Our church Rummage Sale is coming up in a couple of weeks. I am so glad that I can FINALLY get rid of the bins, boxes, bags, and large items that I've put aside. In the next week I plan to make one more round of going through every drawer and closet to be sure I haven't missed anything that needs to go. (And I am not even going to look at the "treasures" on offer when the Rummage Sale happens!)
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Pigwidgeon
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quote: Originally posted by Piglet: The bears won't be de-cluttered: they aren't clutter.
Of course they aren't!
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Brenda Clough
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My husband and I have 'the Oregon filter'. Every item in the house eventually has to pass the filter to ship (expensively and with difficulty) to Oregon. Otherwise it has to be gotten rid of. My son does not pass the filter. (He has a job here, and so will not wish to move.) Nor do the cats, who I hope will be at that Great Scratching Post in the Sky by the time we move.
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Boogie
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I'm still working on the study, I can see the end, it's a dim flicker - but it's there!
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Golden Key
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Brenda--
You could stuff everything into a covered wagon or two, and hit the Oregon trail.
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Piglet
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quote: Originally posted by Piglet: ... two for the temporary re-location of small bears ...
Make that three, plus two of the drawers whose former contents are now going to the thrift-shop.
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Landlubber
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Bears are a necessary part of life, but how can our small household need 10 rolls of sellotape? (Even having a plan for dealing with the mess is beyond me, so I just attack the bit I am standing in front of. Yesterday was a kitchen drawer.)
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Brenda Clough
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Those big-lot stores have been our downfall. Buying tape in ten-packs, because it's so cheap -- but it'll take you the rest of the decade to use ten rolls of the tape. I am on Freecycle (a grand institution for decluttering, BTW) and once got a large free bottle of aspirin, still sealed in its factory plastic. The old gentleman who gave it to me had purchased in in a two-pack, from Costco. He said that it would take him the rest of his life to use the thousand tablets that were in one bottle. And even if he gave away the second bottle to me, he was still paying less than he would have for a mere 200-tablet bottle in a regular store. So it was a win-win, and I got a thousand aspirin tablets free. (This was several years ago, and I see what the old guy meant -- I am less than a third of the way down the bottle.)
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Landlubber
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Freecycle is indeed a wonderful thing, but honesty compels me to admit that all my ten rolls of sellotape have been part used.
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Pigwidgeon
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quote: Originally posted by Landlubber: Freecycle is indeed a wonderful thing, but honesty compels me to admit that all my ten rolls of sellotape have been part used.
Maybe see if your church office, library, school, day care, or some non-profit could use them? I made great use of "gently-used" office supplies when I worked in my church office.
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Piglet
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We're now up to six bags of clothes to General Booth (we haven't even started on boxes of books, unwanted tableware and whatnot), and this morning the bin-men took away about 10 bags of rubbish.
A bit of context: D's been appointed organist of Fredericton Cathedral in New Brunswick, so Château Piglet is being made ready for sale, and we can't buy over there until we've sold here. Hence the major declutterment - the combination of assuming that this was going to be our last house and my non-existent domestic engineering skills mean that the place is a bit of a tip, which needs to be transformed into something for which someone will actually give us money.
We've got a builder/handyman who's helping with a few bits and pieces, but the whole thing's a bit daunting. I feel as if we need to get someone like Kirstie Allsopp in to give the place an estate-agent-worthy makeover (preferably without being rude about the bears).
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Welease Woderwick
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Piglet, shame on you! Books are never ...
Well, perhaps sometimes they are but I find it so difficult to part with them.
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Piglet
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I do understand, but I decided a spot of ruthlessness was in order: there are several books which I've read once and am sure I'll never read again, so really what's the point of keeping them? If they go to a second-hand place, someone who really enjoys them can get them cheaply.
What I'd really like to declutter is D's vast accumulation of periodicals dedicated to the King of Instruments: The Organ, The Organists' Review, The Organ Club Journal, you name it, all going back to the year dot, but he's adamant that they are all essential* to his professional well-being.
Of course they are, dear ...
* The fact that for the nine years he was in Orkney and the first seven years we were in Ireland many of them were in his parents' attic would suggest otherwise.
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Brenda Clough
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I have 16 floor-to-ceiling bookcases in this house. If I ever hope to move I -must- get rid of some books. Here's a thought for you, Piglet. See if the periodicals are available on line. If the publisher (or somebody) has them all available in pdf format, you can shed the paper magazines happily, knowing that any time you want you can go find that article from 1972. Even if you have to buy the pdf on a disc -- you could toss the magazines and promise him to get the disc set for Christmas. Ten discs takes up less than two inches of shelf space!! It is by this philosophy that I have been able to get rid of -many- books. They are available (and searchable!) on Project Gutenberg, so I don't need a book that weighs five pounds.
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Boogie
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Everything in the study is now for keeping - just need to sort everything out and put it away.
Not long now!!
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jacobsen
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Boogie
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Piglet
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quote: Originally posted by Brenda Clough: ... Here's a thought for you, Piglet. See if the periodicals are available on line ....
Thanks for the thought, but sadly he can't read on-line periodicals in the bath ...
I'm off to do some shelf-measuring and re-organising. Really.
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Sioni Sais
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Spent two hours plus decluttering my side of the bedroom. Found any number of objects thought lost, discarded a black bag of time-expired documents, collected toys that neither the children (nor their children) will want and the situation is little changed
Work resumes tomorrow
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North East Quine
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Better than a light at the end of a tunnel, I can see carpet!
Last January, during the flooding, we had a frantic couple of hours gathering great armfuls of stuff from downstairs and hurling them upstairs, while the water came steadily nearer. The water was lapping the foot of our driveway when the flood reached its peak.
Our daughter had to sleep on the living room floor because her bed had disappeared under the mounds of stuff.
We decided that we wouldn't just dump the stuff back downstairs, but would sort, tidy and discard before replacing. Once our daughter had gone back to Uni there was no pressure to clear her room, so progress has been slow.
But - we are getting there. We will do this! Downstairs looks much tidier. I am starting to believe that we can declutter.
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Huia
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I always find the re-discovery of the floor encouraging One of my friends refers to the floordrobe where clothes are likely to end up. The cat loves snuggling in.
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jacobsen
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Has anyone ever tried spinning discarded cat hair into yarn? I know it can be done with some types of dog hair, and sweaters have resulted. Every time I launder the cats' sheepskin (my old dismembered Jacket from 40 years ago) bedding, despite having hoovered it as thoroughly as possible, the tumble drier picks up a mass of very clean cat hair. Seems a shame to waste it.
This comes under the heading of potential recycling
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Pigwidgeon
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I start sneezing my head off if I'm in a house with a cat. I can't imagine sitting next to someone (church, theater, public transportation, etc.) wearing clothing made of cat hair.
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Boogie
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quote: Originally posted by Pigwidgeon: I start sneezing my head off if I'm in a house with a cat. I can't imagine sitting next to someone (church, theater, public transportation, etc.) wearing clothing made of cat hair.
It's likely the dander you are allergic to ~ in which case you'd be ok.
I groom the dogs every day and put the hairs out for the birds. The blue and great tits have been taking great beak fulls away . They prefer the yellow to the black.
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Brenda Clough
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If you know a spinner, she can tell you about spinning animal hair. Google around, there's sure to be a guild or something in your area. You could easily find someone to do it, if you don't care to pick up the skill yourself, but it'll cost you. As a rule you have to spin it 50-50 with wool, because the fibers of cats or dogs aren't long enough for tensile strength. (Unsurprising, since they were not bred for their fiber and sheep were.) The yarn you get is very warm indeed, not really suitable for anything but very cold climates. Before you can spin the fiber you have to wash, com and card it, and that usually gets out most of the dander.
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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Thanks to The Former Miss S and SiL, who had to move house using two sports cars I have discovered vacuum-packing bags to store fabric in. They are just magic
I have packed away a set of floor-length curtains in one, plus a set of spare cushion covers for the sofa in another, which means a) they can be kept clean; b) they take up about a quarter of the space; and c) they are much, much easier to handle than in their original state.
Miss S and SiL pack away a memory-foam mattress and their spare pillows in them!
Mrs. S, rejoicing*
*Mr S had better not stand still for too long
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Welease Woderwick
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That link is really bizarre!
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Piglet
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Just ... no!!!
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Cottontail
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I am too scared now to click on that link.
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Huia
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That was a bit ookie, but not as bad as the photo at the right hand side of the screen where a cake, realisticly baked to look like a human head, is being sliced.
It's fascinating what people think of doing.
Huia -obviously not sufficiently artistic.
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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quote: Originally posted by To The Pain: quote: Originally posted by The Intrepid Mrs S: *Mr S had better not stand still for too long
Like this?
Oh yuck yuck yuck - you may just have saved him!
(Actually, he's safe - I've used all the bags )
-------------------- Don't get your knickers in a twist over your advancing age. It achieves nothing and makes you walk funny. Prayer should be our first recourse, not our last resort 'Lord, please give us patience. NOW!'
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Piglet
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quote: Originally posted by To The Pain: .. if you try it at home there's a danger of friction (I presume) burns ...
Not to mention suffocation.
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mark_in_manchester
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some of those - especially number 9 - appear to have drawn inspiration from here.
If you scroll down to around folio201v and zoom in - at the end of the 'begats' - you'll see the intertwined figures who are drawn around the 'Q' of 'qui' getting up to all sorts.
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North East Quine
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quote: Originally posted by North East Quine: 6. pm - The big declutter started! 6.30pm - First argument with husband over the first item I intended to declutter.
It's a bottle of 40% proof Russian vodka. Husband was given it about 8 years ago, and told to store it in the freezer. It took up valuable room in our freezer, where it was out-of-sight-out-of-mind to husband. Eventually I needed the freezer space, and put it with the rest of the alcohol. Husband spotted it and put it back in the freezer, intending to drink it. Except that, once in the freezer, it was out-of-sight etc. Till I turfed it out, he remembered it and put it back in...
It's been doing the hokey-cokey in and out of the freezer for eight years, without ever being opened. I think I could usefully use it as drain cleaner. But no! Husband assures me he will drink it....one day. There's currently no room in the freezer, so he can't drink it yet.
I posted that on 25 Oct 2013. Yesterday we had another argument about it, but this time I cried. Result! The vodka has been poured down the sink and the bottle is in the recycling!
Why is it so difficult to get rid of stuff that no-one is ever going to want, but somehow have to be kept, shifted, cleaned, moved...
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Huia
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I don't know NEQ, but I live by myself and have those arguments in my head every single time I start decluttering. I don't even need someone else to argue with.
Well done on reaching a solution.
Huia
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Jane R
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NEQ: quote: Why is it so difficult to get rid of stuff that no-one is ever going to want, but somehow have to be kept, shifted, cleaned, moved...
Yes, but was it any good as a drain cleaner?
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Piglet
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NEQ -
Actually, I've done a bit of unsolicited declutterment - there was a pile of D's clothes draped over the banister-rail on the top floor, which I'd been asking him to "edit" and of course he said he would ...
Today the handyman was doing some painting nearby, so I thought, stuff it, I'll sort them myself.
Not that I've made any of them actually disappear, you understand, but I have established in my own mind that most of them are usable, so have put them in Appropriate Places.
brave piglet [ 23. May 2016, 16:04: Message edited by: Piglet ]
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Baptist Trainfan
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So long as Appropriate Places doesn't equate to Safe Places, or else you'll never find them (but the next owners of your house will, in five years time).
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Piglet
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Don't worry, BT - they're not quite as safe as that.
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Jengie jon
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No doubt the duster draw.
Jengie
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