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Jengie jon

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Actually maybe more complex than that, some may have a preferred candidate that others do not want to get the job. It would also explain the cold atmosphere.


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Sandemaniac
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Well, at long fucking last, I have a meeting. As it is with an "HR Business Partner" from Personnel Services - whatever the fuck that verbiage means - and my boss, which could be very interesting A) because he has zero sense of arriving on time and B) because my HR contact who will be there with me thinks that he may have an obligation to find funding whatever. That would help pay the mortgage (completion due September 7th) but it's a very unhappy workplace.

Ho hum. Finger crossed for the interview I have two days after that...

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Good luck with both, Sandemaniac. [Votive]

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Good luck Sandimaniac, and sorry interview was odd APW. I've been to some very odd ones in my time, including several where I could see they were only interviewing me because I emt the criteria, not because they actually wanted me.
Son is still looking. At least he now has several recruiters trying to find him things and interviews turning up at regular interviews.

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Hope it goes well Sandemaniac.

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Curiosity killed ...

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Good Luck for tomorrow Sandemaniac

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Best wishes from me too.

Memo to self. Have coffee before typing even a few words.

[ 17. August 2015, 22:33: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]

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...and me AG.

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Sandemaniac
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Tomorrow? Oh, sorry, I don't seem to have been very clear in my spluttering.

Meeting is September 2nd, a mere three months since I was told. Interview the 4th, completion the 7th. Can I handle it all?

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Sure you can - sock it to 'em! [Big Grin]

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Sandemaniac
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Well, I shall be better able to after today. Today was a truly hideous mood slump - like someone blew up the powers station as I plugged in to recharge. Thankfully the bastard things only last hours these days.

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Good luck! Sorry it's such a lengthy wait though.

Second interview was ok, although they told me I'd hear in 48 hours and a week later still hadn't responded. By which time I'd concluded I probably hadn't got the job - and lo, I was correct. Feedback to follow next week when the panel chair is back from holiday. The timing would have been terrible, as moving job on top of getting married and moving house in the next few months would have been incredibly stressful, but it's still disappointing. Still, I got to second interview and was presumably one of the top two candidates, so it's encouraging in some ways and I can chalk it up to experience.

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Wishing you patience, Sandemaniac, and a better meeting than you anticipate.
Wishing you patience too Scots Lass, and the result that you truly want.

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Sandemaniac
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God, give me patience, and give it to me NOW!

Thank you, daisydaisy, that is a most apt thought.

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Lothlorien
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quote:
Originally posted by Sandemaniac:
God, give me patience, and give it to me NOW!

Thank you, daisydaisy, that is a most apt thought.

AG

A sentiment which fits many things in our lives. Patience where needed.

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Sandemaniac
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I found something really useful about how to avoid writing "I have... I have... I have..." when answering a person specification, and now I can't find the damn thing.

Anyone any bright ideas? Writing one now whilst pointy Haired Boss isn't looking...

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Could you use one "I have" and then use bullet points.

e.g. In my last few roles I have:
  • co-ordinated reporting from a wide variety of sources, including non-financial staff
  • assisted with the several large acquisitions
  • played the trombone in the office whilst wearing just one sock
  • added erroneous/facetious bullet points just to check you were paying attention
  • worked to numerous tight deadlines


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I guess I could (and I like your points three and four), but I rather feel that there's enough bullets in the CV without making the letter another military extravaganza.

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Is it possible to write a brief paragraph about each previous job, and just separate the individual duties with semicolons?

Something like:

While employed at Finknottle, Bedknob & Broomstick, my duties included, inter alia, creation of reports; laboratory analysis of various types of lichens; supervising the lichen-collectors; making the tea; and other usual laboratory activities.

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Remember the purpose of a coverleetr and a resume/cv is to get an interview. They usually not be read in their entirety you have 15-30 seconds to catch an employer's attention.
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Sandemaniac
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Typing on a phone? Rather you than me...

So given that short time period (incidentally, it seems that these days in the University of Blithering Sphincters, this is also accompanied by ticking off a checklist, must be fun I don't think), should I just "I have" to my hearts content, or bullet it, or what

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After just 6 months of looking, I have verbally accepted the offer of an architectural technician job in an architects office just 45 minutes from our house in Wales.
As is usual for jobs in architecture this was not an advertised position. This was my third go at sending CVs to practices in the area. Following some advice from an architect in private practice , I sent this lot out by post.
Actually all 3 interviews I have had have been as a result of a letter not an email. I think what this probably says is that many leaders of practices are not as internet savvy as they would like to think. It also shows that in an office where they probably get two items of post a day, it gets noticed.
If you are interested, my CV was a succinct two sides of A4 with text overlaid on a picture of one of the projects I have worked on.

[ 26. August 2015, 19:04: Message edited by: geroff ]

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Sandemaniac
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Wow, Bravo geroff!

AG

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What Sandemaniac said - congratulations Geroff! [Yipee]

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Congratulations Geroff.

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Excellent news Geroff
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Congrats Geroff!

Have send-round interview with Big Bank on Tuesday...scared, as I am really not good with maths and medal calculations, don't really know what the interview will entail and don't feel prepared... [Eek!]

Please pray that I don't disgrace myself (and the friend who recommended me!).

In the meantime, the civil service thing is progressing at snail's pace...will heard about the actual role by 15th Sept...

Lia

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That is really good news, Geroff!
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Hope interview goes well Lia and the civil service role is one you want. Congrats to Geroff too.
Son has found a job, not sure if he actually what he really wants, but should be good industrial experience. We're in Italy so don't know a lot of details.

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Sandemaniac
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...and Hurrah! for Sarasa's son as well. I know how much of a struggle it's been. Let's hope it's a start for him.

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Curiosity killed ...

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Fantastic news, geroff, well done.

Brilliant for your son, Sarasa.

Good luck, Lia.

I seem to still be stuck in the void as none of the hand over meetings have happened and current conversations are about a half term contract to buy them time.

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Sandemaniac
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What is it with jobs and taking an absolute fornicating infinity to sort anything out?

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The wheels can grind very slowly; my boss first told me she was looking for an assistant in October 2010, and it took the PTB until March 2011 to sort everything out so that I could start.

Congratulations to Sarasa's son - hope the job turns out to be what he wants. [Smile]

Good luck, Lia! [Votive]

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Sandemaniac
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I can well believe that, Piglet. In October 1998 I applied for a permanent job literally on my doorstep - within the site I'd been working on for the previous three years - and went through a long slow process of occasional interviews, plus phone calls saying "Why haven't we got this from you?" - mostly because they hadn't asked. Eventually, in March 1999 they paid me a months salary, then asked for it back when they twigged I hadn't actually started working for them.

That's when I gave up in disgust and took a three month contract in Oxford instead.

AG

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My lot compounded the insult by not asking me for the relevant paperwork, so my first salary was delayed too.

Wonderful, isn't it? [Roll Eyes]

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Sandemaniac
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Isn't it just! My lot delayed by a month at one point owing to "problems getting my security clearance" - which was spheroids, because they could have picked up he internal phone and rung my previous employer as they were on the same site and phone system!

How do people like that even get into the gene pool, never mind make it to employable age?

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Well, tomorrow at 10.30, I will find out what the feck is going on with regards to funding for my post, and whether I will have a job to pay the mortgage with.

Please think of me, pray, rattle beads. sacrifice cockerels, or whatever.


AG

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Good luck for tomorrow Sandemaniac. I hope things are clearer after you've spoken to them.

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Good luck, Sandemaniac.

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Cockerels being sacrificed as we speak ... [Devil]

Best of luck! [Votive]

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Sandemaniac
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Well, I now now what the flip is going on.

As of today I'm effectively at the start of three months notice, because Pointy Haired Boss has used all the money he can find (thanks for telling me). I'm eligible for redeployment (ha ha), and should I choose to bog off during the three months, I can take severance pay. If I don't get anything within that time, the department will have to find an extra three months funding for me, but I will only get statutory redundancy, which is less than half the severance (£8k as opposed to 17K). But I'd need to have something else within that time, presumably outwith the university.

I can get a Redeployment Adviser - usually the administrator , ha ha - and can now claim priority candidate status (also ha ha).

So we've got a few months grace paying the mortgage, PTFL.

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ugg. Would you earn 9k after tax in the second 3 months? If not, seems like it might be worth an extended Christmas break...

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Tempting, very tempting, but everyone always says it's so much easier finding a job when you already have one, and if I took it, then got another job in the university in a few months time, I'd have lost sixteen years worth of continuous service, which would be worth that much more in X years.

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Hard, innit! You don't want to listen to me - I walked out on 20 years university service with no payoff at all. Still, at least I avoided jumping under a train, which is how I felt by the end of it...

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I can sympathise with that feeling, Mark! But they're the biggest employer for miles, and I need to pay the brand new mortgage.

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Give yourself a little while before you jump one way or the other. De ions like this are never easy.

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Buy a bale. Help our Aussie rural communities and farmers. Another great cause needing support The High Country Patrol.

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Piglet
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That does sound tough, Sandemaniac - I hope something will work itself out.

You're wise not to do anything hasty, especially not anything that could jeopardise your chances of redeployment (or indeed bugger up your pension situation when the time comes).

[Votive]

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Celtic Knotweed
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On a somewhat brighter note for this thread, I've sort-of got a new job! 6-month secondment to a different department, on the next pay band up, starting later this month. Very pleased as I'm getting in a bit of a rut here.

Another reason why Sandemaniac isn't leaving his current lot in a hurry...

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Sandemaniac
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The perils of venting somewhere where your partner can see it... [Eek!]

AG

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Piglet
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Good on you, CK - may your good fortune prove to be contagious ... [Smile]

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