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Sarasa
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Good news CK. Sandemaniac, at least you have a clear idea about options now. I hope something suitable turns up pronto.

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Sandemaniac
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So do I!

Meanwhile, Total Jobs has been excelling itself. For some reason it has taken to emailing me jobs as shop managers (and how pants the pay can be has been a revelation).

Today.... not only did it email me a job running an Argos, but it had a closing date of August 7th!

AG

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This is from 2008, so salaries are probably roughly the same.

In case anyone wants to consider new avenues. Best and worst paid jobs in Britain

Edited for code.

[ 03. September 2015, 22:28: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]

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Sandemaniac
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Prayers, cockerels etc welcomed - interview at 3.45 GMT+1 today. In a few minutes, the wireless switch on the computer goes off!

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Sarasa
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Good luck for later Sandemaniac. As a good vegetarian I don't do cockerels, but I'll think of a suitable substitute.

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Curiosity killed ...

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Best wishes Sandemaniac.

I am still with the same job, sort of, part of it and not tied into it for the full academic year. The big problem is no handovers have happened over the summer and unless I handover to someone, none of the kids who are half way through qualifications will get them. There are all sorts of other problems that aren't resolved and need resolving too.

I am not best pleased, but I really don't want to walk away failing a group of students.

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North East Quine

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All the best, Sandemaniac!

LinkedIn's latest three "Jobs you may be interested in" are: a G.P., a welder, and a DVSA vehicle examiner.

WTAF?

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Do the people (or the computer) at Linked In actually look at your qualifications?

Best of luck, Sandemaniac - sock it to 'em! [Smile]

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Welease Woderwick

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Perhaps you could be a GP, a welder and a DVSA examiner at one and the same time!

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That's an idea: GP to mend the people who get broken when the vehicle has a prang, welder to mend the vehicle, and DVSA tester to make sure the welding's been done properly ...

Multi-tasking, eh? [Big Grin]

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Sandemaniac
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Thanks everyone - I didn't clam up like a ... well, clam, so hopefully all went well.

Scary moment afterwards - I met the lab and they all seemed really nice people, got on well, went out for the occasional pub lunch, went for a beer after work...

They were normal! I haven't worked anywhere like that for years...

CK, that is veritably Dysonesque in its level of sucksness.

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Good to hear it, Sandemaniac!

I'm lucky that the lab people in our department are that kind of normal too - we go out for the occasional boozy lunch, any excuse is good enough for a party and when my boss introduced me to them (before I'd even started my job) they asked me to join their lottery syndicate.

Not that we've done much in the way of winning, you understand ... [Disappointed]

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Lothlorien
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Seconding Piglet's good wishes. I hope all turns out well for you..

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Sandemaniac
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Buggeringfucktwats.

At least they told me quickly. And I was on a buzz from getting the house keys when I read the email, so haven't needed to lock up the sharp implements yet.

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Piglet
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Bollocks. Sorry it didn't work out, Sandemaniac.

[Frown]

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Lothlorien
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Piglet has said it well. Bollocks.

[ 08. September 2015, 03:07: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]

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I haven't been on the Ship for a while and a lot has been going on in my life. I left my (boring) NHS job earlier this year, which I had been doing too long, and went to train as a (train) conductor. That was great initially and I qualified back in June. Alas, I couldn't pass a 'ride-out' assessment despite several attempts, and am now out of a job. Please pray as I am one disappointed person.
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Alaric the Goth
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On a more positive note, I got engaged, whil;e in the northern Lake District, a few weeks ago!

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[Votive] Sandemaniac and Alaric.

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Sandemaniac
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It seems they had someone with more directly relevant experience.

Maybe Kind Hearts and Coronets really is the way to go?

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Just remember - if you go down that route, DON'T WRITE YOUR MEMOIRS. [Devil]

AtG - congratulations on your engagement, and commiserations that the change of career didn't work out. Best of luck finding something suitable.

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Sorry to hear that Sandemaniac and Alaric the Goth.

I am investigating doing a 4 week intensive Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages (TESOL, related to TEFL) in the hope that this will lead to a source of flexible employment (and quickly pay for the course)

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Sandemaniac
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How the feck do I demonstrate manual dexterity in a covering letter?

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Hand write it in an unusual flourishing font and then fold it up into an intricate piece of origami before sending it?

[ 10. September 2015, 10:34: Message edited by: Lucia ]

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Sandemaniac
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A much better solution than the very boring one I thought of [Big Grin] - if only!

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Made it to the escape hatch! It's been a ride - good moments, but mostly crappy. Can't wait to finish up.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kittyville:
Made it to the escape hatch! It's been a ride - good moments, but mostly crappy. Can't wait to finish up.

Do you have something else to go to or are you looking or learning to breath again and look around. Hope you find something suitable somewhere suitable.

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Yes, thanks, Lothlorien. I'm far too unadventurous to quit without somewhere else to go. But I do have a few weeks off in between, which is very nice.
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Curiosity killed ...

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Commiserations Sandemaniac and Alaric the Goth.

(Apparently there are problems with dragging me back, with my heels dragging, not least head office kicking up about funding it. [brick wall] I'm still trying to unscramble things that were left unresolved at the end of last year, not least the exams officer who waltzed off with a student's work without entering it for the June deadlines, for example. I now have the work ...)

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Sarasa
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Sorry AtG that new career didn't pan out - hope something else comes along very shortly.
Curiousity Killed - that sounds dire, and even more reasons for you to be trying to get out. The kids you work with have enough going on without crap admin mucking things up for them.

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Sandemaniac
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Mostly keeping it on the front page, but just passing comment that buying a house when your job is at risk is not a move guaranteed to lower your stress levels.

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Sandemaniac
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It's all very well and good suggesting that you can investigate whether the department could give me a bigger payout so that that I could go elsewhere and retrain earlier, but it doesn't solve the fundamental problem that I still don't know what the living fuck else I can do.

AG

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Doublethink.
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https://targetjobs.co.uk/career-sectors/retail-buying-and-merchandising/324077-which-graduate-retail-employer-pays-the-most

Nature of your first degree doesn't matter for these and they pay well quite quickly. As an organiser with attention to detail, you'd have transferable skills.

(That £42000 + audi is what you get entering the 18 week traing course to be an Aldi area manager. )

[ 22. September 2015, 15:05: Message edited by: Doublethink. ]

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Doublethink.
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They say they want a 2:1 in any subject, but having a masters would probably trump a 2:2 I think.

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Sandemaniac
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...perhaps I should have said "what do I actually want to do?"?

I appreciate the thought, but I just can't get excited about retailing.

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Doublethink.
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If you need money, and you don't want to drop income whilst retraining, your options are limited - working in retail doesn't mean you have to stay doing it forever though.

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Apparently not everyone can "do" sales - I once took a test which showed that I should never go into sales. I think it's to do with closing a sale, which I know I'd be hopeless at. I'm not sure I'd be very good at a checkout in a supermarket either, based on my experience of the 2 days each year I did in stores while working for a huge day retailer - I have great respect for the patience these people have to display, and the speed at which they scan.

This afternoon I have an interview for a training course leading to Teaching English as a Second Language (TESOL) - it' s a 1 month intensive course, hopefully enabling me to work flexibly and generate an income.

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Sandemaniac
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Well, they've upped the bribe to leave if I bugger off by the end of October, but if they think I'm going to go willingly without another job to go to they've got another think coming. Effectively a year's salary tax free is all very well, but it's been a long, long time since it's taken me less than a year to find a job.

AG

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That's rotten, Sandemaniac - something similar happened to D. when his previous job went pear-shaped, and it was very pressurising to feel that there was a race against the clock to find something else.

[Votive]

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[Votive] sandemaniac
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Today, LinkedIn has suggested two jobs I might be interested in - Hydraulics Design Engineer and - wait for it - Volunteer Charity Shop Assistant.

Do companies pay LinkedIn to advertise jobs? Do oil companies know that adverts for hydraulic design engineers are being sent to people with history degrees and whose engineering experience is a Girl Guide badge in Make-Do-And-Mend?

[Disappointed]

On the positive side, my book chapter proposal has been accepted, so although it's not paid work, it is something to get my teeth into. The (volunteer) history walk leading season ended on Saturday, I enjoyed that. I'm organising a day conference which is challenging (and unpaid!) but good experience. One of these days....

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Sandemaniac
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Yes, I'm getting similar suggestions from Glassdoor in particular (Why does anyone recommend this? It's shite!). The most recent has been a commis chef! WTF?

Meanwhile, the desperate drudge goes on. Who would want to stay somewhere that will pay for you to leave but not to stay, but it's the biggest employer for miles, and the best payer...

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Sympathies, Sandemaniac. It is rubbish.

I haven't heard of Glassdoor, but given how crap LinkedIn is, I'm not interested in more of the same.

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It's a job site rather than a networking one, but it's just a PITA, constant emails of jobs you've seen before, and if you make the mistake of clicking on one to try to work out why on earth it's sent you it, you get more of the same.

One of its more pointless tricks is sending you lists of jobs you've recently looked at...

Total Jobs ain't much better, though Indeed seems OKish.

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Has anyone here tried the Skills Health Check on the National Careers Service's Career tools site?
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Not here, but I guess I can give it a go and see.

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Apparently I did three years ago. PM me your email (or remind me what it is!) and I'll send a copy so you can see what sort of bumf it generates.

Looking at it now, I seem to recall that I found it far too general to tell me anything I didn't already know.

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...and another interview, Wednesday 7th October. Let's see how this one goes.

AG

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Once again, all the best, Sandemaniac. [Votive]

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Good luck Sandemaniac.

(LinkedIN has taken to suggesting I might be interested Finance Director posts. Given that I am not an accountant and have never worked in finance (nor do I have any interest or expertise in doing so) I have no clue why they are quite so insistent on this.)

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