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Piglet
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SL and BC - ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
Sandemaniac - ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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Jengie jon
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Yes Research Data managers are a growing part of University staff. We have our advert out for one of them at present. The first of about half a dozen if everything goes to plan.
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Sipech
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Have taken the first dip into the sea of job applications in over 3 years. Have updated my CV and sent it to the recruitment agent who placed me in my current role.
Feeling rather nervous now.
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Jack the Lass
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So much good news on this thread recently, it does me good to see it! (and I hope I can join you soon!). Well done everyone, and particularly HOORAY for Scot's Lass!
Well the job that I thought (on the previous page of the thread) was a long-shot turned out to be just that, and I wasn't short-listed, but I am OK about that. I saw another job advertised which I considered applying for, but as it was quite short hours and for a relatively short fixed-term, in the end I decided that I didn't want it enough to take the risk.
I have just seen another job advertised though which I would absolutely love, it relates to both professional and academic interests, but I am overqualified for it (it is a graduate position which includes a stipulation that the postholder registers for a Masters degree - I have an MSc and PhD already). I am worried that they would think that someone who has already been a postdoc wouldn't want to be a lowly Research Assistant (which isn't the case at all, I'd love it!) and would be off at the first sniff of a more prestigious academic job (no thanks! Been there, done that, know it's not for me). I have emailed the PI outlining my background and straight up asking if they would consider me overqualified (and explaining why I don't think that will matter), will see what he says. There are so many reasons why it would suit me, I hope they can see beyond what's on paper.
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Jengie jon
Semper Reformanda
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If my experience this time last year is anything to go by, you will not be the only over qualified person applying.
Jengie
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Lamb Chopped
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My husband just called to say his work is closing their doors. He's 67, and we can't do without his income yet. And he carries our health insurance!
This is going to be interesting.
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Jack the Lass
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Originally posted by Jengie jon:
If my experience this time last year is anything to go by, you will not be the only over qualified person applying.
Jengie
Oh I've absolutely no doubt of that. But I wanted to make sure that I wouldn't be wasting my time applying in the first place!
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Sipech
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A frustrating morning. I've nipped out several times to phone a recruitment consultant, but he was never at his phone. There's only so many times I can pretend to go to the toilet. ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
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RainbowGirl
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I've just dived back into the world of job hunting.
My contract at the university ends in three months and it is assumed by my employer that another role in the same team will come up that I will apply for and get. I've behaved and applied for the role when it came up, but I honestly don't want to stay there.
My dream job came up this week, five hours away so I've applied and been shortlisted to the first interview phase. If I get the job it will be beyond hectic trying to close up shop here, break lease move etc but oh it would be wonderful. Wrangling private school students instead of university students, smaller team, better hours... If I don't get the role I'm still saving the job description for my daydreams.
The first interview was a super awkward video based one, at which time my shiny new computer decided to break. Fingers crossed that technology issues are still forgivable. ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
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Doone
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Hope all goes well RainbowGirl ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Piglet
Islander
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Good luck RG!
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Sipech
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Got a few irons on the fire now.
Just got sent a job spec working for Rupert Murdoch. That got pretty short shrift! I'm not ready to enter into any Faustian pacts just yet. ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
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Piglet
Islander
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Presumably you don't hate your present job quite that much ... ![[Paranoid]](graemlins/paranoid.gif)
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Brenda Clough
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(palpitating) Agent, a fireball of a woman, has pitched the ms at no fewer than nine editors in a period of two days. Seven want more. Prayers appreciated! As they say of marriage, all you need at the altar is one...
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Doone
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
(palpitating) Agent, a fireball of a woman, has pitched the ms at no fewer than nine editors in a period of two days. Seven want more. Prayers appreciated! As they say of marriage, all you need at the altar is one...
You got 'em!
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la vie en rouge
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As denizens of hell will be aware, I work for an idiot. I have now started actively seeking alternative employment.
(On the upside, the highlight of my week was my boss getting in big trouble with his management for not dealing with his compliance obligations. He had been treating this like it was my job but it's not, it's his job. Just as I was complaining about this to the accountant, who should walk in but the COO, an excellent bloke. He agrees that it's not my job, phoned the compliance officers at head office, and he has told me to come back and see him if I have any more trouble. Makes things better for the time being and man it was nice to see boss get his comeuppance for once.)
Ideally I would like a translation job, but sadly I think this would pay rather less than what I do now. So my new plan is to look for a bog-standard PA job (NOT with lawyers) and then try to starting getting translation work on the side.
I sent out CVs this week and the phone hasn't rung yet. Why hasn't the phone rung? It's been a whole six hours!! ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif)
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Sarasa
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LVEN - maybe your current job will get better now the CEO knows what a prat you work for?
I intended to retire this summer, but due to new things happening at work I've been asked to stay on till October to help with the transition. I think I'm happy with that.
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Scots lass
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Thank you all and Good Luck! to all other hunters. It can be done...
[ 07. March 2016, 21:20: Message edited by: Scots lass ]
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la vie en rouge
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Met an *excellent* recruiter this lunchtime who really understood what I want (i.e. I’ve got a job already, I’m not starving, I don’t want to take something that isn’t going to make me happy). She’s already arranged an interview for tomorrow. The cool thing about recruiters like this is that she’s suggested a sector that sounds interesting, but which I almost certainly wouldn’t have thought about by myself.
The salary is a bit less than I would like, but she told me to go with the policy of asking for the low end and then trying to up it if they fall in love with me. We shall see.
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Doone
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Hope tomorrow goes well!
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Piglet
Islander
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Best of luck, La Vie!
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Alan Cresswell
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Just because I've signed up to a variety of "let me know if there's an interesting job" places to see what options I have since no one seems to want to fund what I currently do, I had a wee giggle this morning. Post advertised, part time lecturer in the History of the Universe - one would have thought that there was more than enough material for several full-time lecturers in the subject!
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Piglet
Islander
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
... part time lecturer in the History of the Universe ...
Maybe they want someone very specialised - say, just the history of the last few aeons ... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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Very belated congratulations to Irish Lord and Scots Lass. Also to chive, hope this six month probationary period works out. Brenda, it sounds as if things are moving. Sarasa, you seem to have made yourself indispensable. Well done all of you.
Best wishes to crunt, Jack the Lass, Beenster, Sipech, Mr and Mrs Lamb Chopped and Alan Cresswell. Hope you find something that works for you soon.
How did it go Rainbow Girl?
la vie en rouge, how do you find a sensible recruitment agency? It sounds brilliant and really helpful.
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la vie en rouge
Parisienne
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Things are looking up. Second interview tomorrow for a consulting firm (headhunters and management consultants). It sounds like a very full-on job, but with very nice people and a great atmosphere. One step closer to telling my idiot boss to bog off. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Piglet
Islander
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Good luck La Vie!
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Welease Woderwick
Sister Incubus Nightmare
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...and from here too. Telling Idiot Boss to bog off is such a HUGE incentive!
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Piglet
Islander
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Sorry to hear that, La Vie - better luck with the next one. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Sarasa
Shipmate
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Sorry that didn't work out LVER. Sounds good that you are getting lots of people interested in your skills, so hopefully it won't be too long before you can wave goodbye to idiot boss.
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la vie en rouge
Parisienne
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Ok, funny conversation on the phone this morning.
My CV is currently with two recruitment agencies, whom we shall call Agency A and Agency B.
The job I interviewed for earlier this week and didn’t get came through Agency A.
Meanwhile Agency B is currently trying to set me up an interview with Big Insurance Company.
This morning Agency B called me. We’ve sent your CV to Big Insurance Company, the person says. We haven’t heard back from them yet, but don’t worry, they’re usually quite slow. I’ll keep you updated. Also we have this other job you might be interested in.
Turns out to the exact same job that I already interviewed for earlier in the week via Agency A. It must be. It’s a pretty small office, and they wouldn’t be recruiting more than one PA at the same time. Now here’s the thing. When I was there this week, they told me they had 3 or 4 candidates on second interview. They’ve clearly decided that they didn’t like any of them/us and have contacted another recruitment agency to try to find someone.
I conclude that they are being much too hard to please. I don’t believe there was no one employable out of the 3 or 4 that they saw. Also the money they were offering was on the low side for what it was. I think they’re hoping to get some amazing candidate for some extremely bargain basement price. I feel better now I can write them off as bad people.
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Sarasa
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LVER - This happened to my son last summer. He went for an interveiw that went well, and the initial feedback was positive, but he didn't get the post. The company adveritsed again and loads of agencies he was signed up for suggested he went for it, as it was obviously a good fit for his skills. The feeling from one recruiter was they didn't actually know what they wanted.
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Sarasa
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Sorry for the double post.
PS - I hope something really amazing comes along soon LVER.
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Piglet
Islander
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Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
... I feel better now I can write them off as bad people.
Absolutely - you're probably better off giving them a wide berth.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sarasa:
LVER - This happened to my son last summer. He went for an interveiw that went well, and the initial feedback was positive, but he didn't get the post. The company adveritsed again and loads of agencies he was signed up for suggested he went for it, as it was obviously a good fit for his skills. The feeling from one recruiter was they didn't actually know what they wanted.
The alternative, which I have seen, is that they want exactly who they had before. But that person left, didn't they. Shouldn't the company they left look at why they left? Of course they should, but how often does that happen.
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Piglet
Islander
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{{{La Vie}}}
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Sipech
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Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
A big four audit firm is recruiting. Started filling out their thing last night, should finish it tonight. Hope I’m not too senior/experienced…
They could always make you a partner...
Make sure you're up to date on your technical side. e.g. implications of the implementation of IFRS 16 and gender pay reporting.
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la vie en rouge
Parisienne
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Don’t think I’d need that much technical stuff, PA work is kind of the same wherever you do it. Haven’t heard from them so far.
OTOH I put up my CV on a well-known recruitment website last night, and the phone it doth ring muchly (well, twice, but that’s not bad in less than 24 hours ![[Biased]](wink.gif) ).
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la vie en rouge
Parisienne
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Double-posting to say one of yesterday’s calls sounds very promising indeed.
Finance/investment company, job creation. It’s a growing company with two directors who are currently sharing an assistant. They are going to recruit another one so they can each have their own. The recruiter says I can ask for my upper desired salary and they are very nice people.
*crosses all fingers and toes*
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Good luck! Nothing like getting out of a situation where you're working for a [conduct mark for swearing].
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Welease Woderwick
Sister Incubus Nightmare
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Yes indeed, best wishes for that one.
It has constantly amazed me over my lifetime that management types, many with significant management qualifications, don't seem to realise that if they treat their staff with courtesy and consideration they will get better service.
It ain't rocket science, just basic human decency.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
Yes indeed, best wishes for that one.
It has constantly amazed me over my lifetime that management types, many with significant management qualifications, don't seem to realise that if they treat their staff with courtesy and consideration they will get better service.
It ain't rocket science, just basic human decency.
The problem is that in cold business terms, basic human decency is a Bad Thing. Many who are very good (read: effective) in business try to use similar methods with people and it simply isn't apparent to them that their people would perform better if treated decently. Management qualifications are irrelevant: if they don't "do people" that's it.
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Doone
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# 18470
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Here's hoping La Vie!
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