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MaryLouise
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Good news, Huia.

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At our congregational meeting on Sunday we rejected the aforementioned candidate in a secret ballot 22 to 18.
Those on the Board of Selection (not its name but, whatever) who had met him 3-4 times had come to like him and approve of him,
while some of my dedicated Progressive friends were already deciding where they'd move to if he were chosen. I heard the warm acceptance from a Board member who'd begun by being unimpressed, and was thinking I'd give him a chance if he were selected. A shame that the people who are going to vote don't get a chance to get to know him first. But no go.
I think we've made it difficult by making possibly mutually exclusive requirements essential.
And I'm sure we made a mistake in spending big on restoring our church when we had the choice between returning it to its original state when we had to raise it to higher earthquake safety. The alternative (the better choice in my opinion) was to demolish it and replace with modern multi-purpose buildings. We are surrounded by people several generations away being comfortable in pointy-roofed churches.

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quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Big snow due to hit all of the Southeast bits of Australia. Air mass coming to Oz from the Antarctic has a temp of -29C, and gale force winds accompanying it.
So the most snow all year will fall just as all the gardens are about to host their Spring bulb shows. It figures. Wind and cloud is building over Canberra, and I expect everyone will be back to shivering by tomorrow.

BL. Still dreaming of palm trees.

I'm enjoying Brisbane now. Bigly. May the horrors stay south.

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Bl**dy He**, it's cold.
Doubt it got into double figures today, but the windchill factor has made it feel like walking about in a cold room all day. Had to venture out to go to a Gov shopfront to renew a license and TP and I were clinging on to each other in the face of the antarctic blast ripping across the plaza, just to stay upright.

BL. Not going far from the fireplace tonight.

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The wind up here has been worse today than the last few days when it was strong. I sat on my balcony knitting rug for DIL's birthday which was some weeks ago. The rug is now big enough to cover my lap and legs and tuck in around the sides. Very cosy. I spread it out on the floor for the first time tonight and am pleased with my progress. Arthritis in my right hand has slowed progress.

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Dammit, and there was I this morning, swimming happily in an outdoor pool, bathed in sunshine ... [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
At our congregational meeting on Sunday we rejected the aforementioned candidate in a secret ballot 22 to 18.

GG

Ouch - is it a simple majority vote? It must be difficult when the division is so nearly halfway. Do you have another Parish meeting to discuss this or is it up to the searchers (forgotten the proper name) to go back to the drawing board?

Beautiful sunny day here, but only 17c and a cold wind. I spent most of the day in my north west facing room fighting Georgie-Porgy for the chair in the sun. The manufacturer may call them Lazyboys but anyone with a feline knows they are actually Lazycats

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Huia, it appears it's a simple majority – but even if it had been 22-18 for him instead of against, I can't imagine he'd want to come if half the congregation didn't want him.
Back to the search, and I think some of our requirements must be mutually exclusive.

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Still cold here. I keep telling myself every morning that it has to warm up soon. I have begun crocheting cupcakes just to keep my hands warm! Dear Lord, I am finally doing nannacraft. [Razz]

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I have just come in from balcony where the sun has shifted for spring. What was in sun is now shady. The wind is vicious and strong and blowing off many hectares of snow several feet deep.

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quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
... I have begun crocheting cupcakes ...

[Confused] [Confused] [Confused]

GG - it seems to me that it's not all that rare for congregations to be split when it comes to choosing a clergyman; at Our Old Place in Scotland, the present incumbent (the next-but-one after the one who was there in our time) seems to be loved and loathed in almost equal measure.

I must confess to not being very taken with him, but in fairness, he had a couple of hard acts to follow. His immediate predecessor was a veteran of the Iona Community and very popular, and his predecessor (who married us) was very traditional, very erudite and for the most part fairly popular as well. I wouldn't envy anyone having to fill the shoes of those two gentlemen.

[Votive] that your place finds the right chap/chapess* in due course.

* The parish church in Kirkwall (which had divisions of its own, having been formed from two previous churches) called one of the first lady ministers in the Church of Scotland back in the 1970s, which caused a further split between those who were happy with a lady, and those who weren't ...

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Best wishes to you and your parish GG.

I left Albury in single digits and arrived in Darwin at 35 degrees. A good conference. Especially as I won an award for my work in an analytics group. I was rather surprised. 2 more days exploring before back to Albury.

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Lazycats sounds right, Huia. In winter my Great Dane reserves the sunniest sofa in the living room for his personal use.

GG, that sounds like a very tricky vote. I hope you have better luck with your next candidate.

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quote:
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Best wishes to you and your parish GG.

I left Albury in single digits and arrived in Darwin at 35 degrees. A good conference. Especially as I won an award for my work in an analytics group. I was rather surprised. 2 more days exploring before back to Albury.

Congratulations on the award, Ian.

35? Zappa would be happy.

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Congratulations, IC! [Yipee]
quote:
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35? Zappa would be happy.

I was just thinking that. [Big Grin]
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... my Great Dane reserves the sunniest sofa in the living room for his personal use ...

Well, Great Danes are rather ... large.

"Where does he sleep?"

"Wherever he likes" ...


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Today the Christchurch Anglican Synod voted to restore the Christchurch Cathedral. It was a reasonably close vote, with 55% in favour of restoration.

My personal view is that it is their building and they can do what they like with it, but I object to any of my rates money going towards this. The Bishop has, in the past spoken of other needs in Christchurch following the quakes, especially homelessness and children's mental health, but she said in advance of the vote that she would support synod's decision.

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Congratulations, Ian!

Huia, I was just sitting in front of the TV the other evening watching a rather dire travel programme called Houses International about people relocating around the world from America, and saw images of a gaping Christchurch Cathedral three years after the earthquake. I was wondering when and how they would restore it.

Lothlorien, life with a Great Dane involves ongoing human compromises. I don't know if this is true of the breed but my dog is the most stubborn canine I've ever known (and that includes strong-willed Papillons, boxers, ridgebacks and even a tyrannical Yorkie!) If I sit down on a sofa, he likes to try and sit on my lap so I have to perch on narrow chairs to discourage this. I keep bedroom doors closed because he would love to claim one of the beds for himself. He does have a bed to lie on in my study, but he prefers his sofas.

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quote:
Originally posted by Piglet:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Banner Lady:
[qb] ... I have begun crocheting cupcakes ...

[Confused] [Confused] [Confused]

Have an old stash of wool, lace and small pompoms and so when I saw these on Pinterest as fun playfood, decided I would give them a go. Did not cost anything except my time - and it must be nearly 35 years since I crocheted anything.

The four smallest grandchildren road tested them this morning. I can happily report that they are close to indestructible, survived being fed to various toy animals, being used as play hospital treats, and are great for no mess food fights. Nanna did good.
[Razz]

Congrats on the award Ian - we are both winners, although my win involves only my personal satisfaction at being able to create a pattern from a visual cue, and resurrect an almost forgotten skill. Glad you got some recognition from your peers!

[ 09. September 2017, 10:50: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]

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Tomorrow I leave Brisbane's pleasant climes, and leave too the wondrous comapany I have enjoyed here (eh, Clarence and FD? [Tear] ) and youse wonderful Westralians too (Dark Knight, The Coot [oh dear, I've lost track of his ship names], Rexory, Piers Ploughman, Jugular ... gosh, who else was there) ...

I'll be sad to return to the frozen wastes of Aotearoa, except of course that it is home, for now. But very sad. Besides it was 2°C, I am informed, at Scarily Close to 40° South, this morning. [Eek!]

I feel I've thawed out climactically this past week and socialy these past two weeks. After all that happened to me in 2016, and the love and joy I find here in the Western Isle, I am wondering if Aotearoa really is my home any more.

Or perhaps the whole "here on earth we have no lasting ..." pertains. [Waterworks]

It all kinda hurts. And confuses. And hurts.

[ 11. September 2017, 08:09: Message edited by: Zappa ]

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Scarily Close to 40° South


As someone who grew up scarily close to 60° North, that sounds positively tropical. [Big Grin]

Would a move to Warmer Climes™ be feasible?

{{{Zappa}}}

[ 11. September 2017, 22:39: Message edited by: Piglet ]

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Huia
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Oh Zappa - it might be time to 'shake the dust' from NZ 'off your feet' - depending on what's best for all of you.

I had an email recently from my brother whose been living happily in the USA for 20 years, about an old friend from Auckland who is visiting him, and I realised again the many factors keeping him there, and pulling him here.

I'm lucky in that Wellington is the only other place where I would sometimes like to be, and it's easy to do a quick visit (and realise that I could not live there again).

Huia

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quote:
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Tomorrow I leave Brisbane's pleasant climes, and leave too the wondrous comapany I have enjoyed here (eh, Clarence and FD? [Tear] ) and youse wonderful Westralians too (Dark Knight, The Coot [oh dear, I've lost track of his ship names], Rexory, Piers Ploughman, Adampater, Jugular ... gosh, who else was there) ...


We'll miss you Z - but we miss kuruman too, and hope it won't be too long before we have you both visiting the West Island again.

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Grateful to have the next four days at the coast where it is slightly warmer than here. All of 12 today with winds and frosts forecast over the next few days. It is a mission weekend, so will be working hard, but am looking forward to breathing sea air instead of all the pollen blowing about.

Just had a somewhat surprising email from my sister in Serbia, where she is busy putting together a gallery of aboriginal art for teaching purposes. An unexpected tangent to her retirement! [Confused]

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Ta, y'all

I just have to suck it up for a few years.

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Weird weather 3.20am and 19c [Eek!]

I woke up wondering if my internal temperature regulation was malfunctioning. Now, having opened both front and back doors ( leaving security screen doors closed), I'm going back to bed. I will probably wake up feeling cold.

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Ye Gods - at 19 I have the doona/duvet well and truly wrapped around me and the fire/heater on

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You really ought to pay us a visit, Zappa - it's 27° and feeling like 31 at the moment. [Big Grin]

You'll need to be quick though - it's supposed to go down to 20° on Sunday, probably because we're having an outdoor service that morning ... [Paranoid]

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You really should think of moving to Arizona, Zappa. It's now 38°C -- cooling down now that summer is coming to an end.

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I think you've probably won, Pigwidgeon. I don't think we can match temperatures like that.

I certainly hope we can't! [Eek!]

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I think you've probably won, Pigwidgeon. I don't think we can match temperatures like that.

I certainly hope we can't! [Eek!]

Two days ago Sydney max ranged from33-35, hottest September temperatures in almost twenty years. Yesterday there was snow in quite a few areas west of Sydney and at Barrington Tops, north a bit.

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quote:
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I think you've probably won, Pigwidgeon. I don't think we can match temperatures like that.

I certainly hope we can't! [Eek!]

Me too! It reached about 22c today, so I dug out my cooler clothes and my sandals and weeded a small stretch of garden where the low growing lavender is engulfed by a weed I had never seen before the quakes. I think it came from some soil used to replace the dirt that was dug out when the new driveway was laid.

I hope the weather stays fine so I can do some more weeding tomorrow.

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You really should think of moving to Arizona, Zappa. It's now 38°C -- cooling down now that summer is coming to an end.

Heavenly. Though today my pad reached 25°C which is about when I start to come alive.

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Travel well Zappa. Alas, you can't look to an appointment in Sydney, but otherwise you'd be very welcome at St Sanity.

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Ah, we immorallati pariahs ... I find it ironic that the NZ libruls and the OZ ultra-conservatives both have me blacklisted now ... except that the Sydney blacklisting is not personal and the NZ one was lifted by court order

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Definitely that. Then there's the need to have NT Greek to at least the standard taught at Moore College.

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There are some advantages to being fairly deaf. I did not wake during this. My place is in a security block, almost immediately to the right of the police car. Only a few metres away. I am up several storeys and there are electronic locks on heavy entrance doors. It appears to have been the result of an altercation between two men, but all the same, too close for comfort. Both McDs and the service station are open 24 hours. I can look straight into windows in fron of police car and those windows at end of the building on the right.

Axe attack

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That is too close for comfort, Lothlorien.

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Lothlorien
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Mary Louise, I have been here a few months over six years. It is usually faorly quiet for events such as this. Noise from main road and occasionally a driver is chased inton carpark by higghway patrol which is then parked so he cannot drive out. Some years ago a brick was thrown through McD's window, Otherwise noise from road but few disturbances like this one.

I have always felt secure here, right from first night when I slept on floor before actual moving took place the next day.

As police told us after we were broken into some twenty or so years ago, if someone is determined to get in they will. You can discourage them.

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Tukai
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A reminder to those from the land of parliamentarians too pusillanimous to take a decision without a focus group. Do help the politicians with doing what we elect them to do - take a decision on same sex marriage - by returning your completed "opinion survey" form.

And, without comment on the subject of this so-called "survey", as a former statistician at the Bureau of Statistics it grates on me to see this once proud agency diverted from its proper work (at vast expense to the taxpayer) to run a "survey" that is statistically invalid and unrepresentative , as it is both voluntary and with an unstratified sample.

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A government that panders to the worst instincts of its people degrades the whole country for years to come.

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Zappa
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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Definitely that. Then there's the need to have NT Greek to at least the standard taught at Moore College.

Oh, I have that, at least on paper! Well, in theory.

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Ian Climacus

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My trip to Darwin. Went well. <5C when I left and 35C when I arrived! Even got an award at the conference!

Came home to a bout of sickness. Have been on the IV drip twice so far... Blood tests indicate I have some nasty infection. My new boss has seen me for all of 3 days and I run away to Darwin then get sick.

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Lothlorien
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That's no good Ian. I hope it clears soon.

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Wesley J

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[Votive] Ian

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Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)

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Huia
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Today is the 124th anniversary of Women's Suffrage in NZ [Yipee] [Yipee]

I am going to visit my Electorate MP's office with a bunch of white camellias, the symbol of women's suffrage here, and also leave some on the Women's Suffrage Memorial in town.

If the weather holds I may also take a walk through the Kate Sheppard pathway in the Botanic Gardens, which is planted with camellias.

Huia

People throughout NZ were involved in the suffrage struggle, but a lot of the organisation of the petitions centred in Christchurch, which has a radical political history, despite its more sober present.

Huia.

[ 18. September 2017, 19:31: Message edited by: Huia ]

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Charity gives food from the table, Justice gives a place at the table.

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Galloping Granny
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My paternal grandmother and a couple more of her family signed the petition. Not sure about the maternal side. I'd better check – surely 'Bossy bessie' would have been in there!

GG

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Lothlorien
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My form came today. I will post it Thurday when I go to audiologist which is neare local PO. I never realised how much I would miss the postbox which was over the road from my former home. FRom front door over to box and back again in under two minutes. None local at all to me here.

Tukai, I could tell you some stories of my time at Bureau of Stats. Part time, not census stuff. I could tell you some beauties from Hosehold Expenditure work were I not bound by oath to divulge nothing. Hair raising , some of them. I am sure you could guess some of them, Or similar.

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Mine arrived today, as well. The whole thing is a ridiculous farce, but I'm not going to stand on a point of principle and not participate. The standard of public discourse has been predictably awful, so the sooner it's all over, the better. Not that the result will shut anyone up, whichever way it goes.
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Zappa
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Ian, please tell me you weren't walking around Darwin bare foot ... there's some nasty diseases up there in God's best slice of earth (go figure)

[ 19. September 2017, 18:58: Message edited by: Zappa ]

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and mayhap this too: http://broken-moments.blogspot.co.nz/

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Ian Climacus

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No, no; properly shod. Some influenza infection supposedly, but one that only knocked half my body around.

Sent off my vote... Fat lot of good I think it will do, though, sadly; hope I am wrong and it goes somewhere.

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