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Banner Lady
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Re voting. A straw poll at family dinner at Chez Banner came out at exactly half those present thinking one way and half the other. I suspect that is fairly indicative of things in this country. We will see soon enough. But I reckon it will be close.

Meanwhile I hope everyone has some top plans for tonight, seeing as how the world will apparently end tomorrow. My prediction is that it will certainly end - for some. [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
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... I reckon it will be close ...

How close does it have to be? I mean, is it a simple majority*, or does it have to be two-thirds (or some more complicated fraction)?

And is voting compulsory, as it is in your general elections?

* in which case, the losers will be monstrously pissed off (see Brexit vote).

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It is not an election, Piglet. It is a survey of public opinion. returning the form with a decision marked is a matter of personal choice. It is not a plebiscite and the government is under no compulsion of taking any notice of the results. It is a massive waste of money.

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Oh ...

That does sound like a bit of a waste of money, if the government isn't bound to do anything about the results.

[Confused]

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Banner Lady
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And let's not forget our NZ contingent are voting tomorrow. I would say may you get the politicians you deserve - but that sounds more like a curse than anything else.

[Frown]

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quote:
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Oh ...

That does sound like a bit of a waste of money, if the government isn't bound to do anything about the results.

[Confused]

The Government could not get the legislation necessary to support the survey, and to make voting compulsory and the result binding through the Senate,as it does not have a majority there - and only the thinnest one in the House. So it's nothing better than any opinion poll,save that this one's being carried out at substantial public expense.

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Election Day here, although many have already voted as rules have changed regarding early votes, which can now be counted before polls close. I will wander down to the shops to buy some cat food and pop in to the local Anglican Church Hall to vote while I'm out.

Preliminary results may come through fairly quickly this evening. I'm always conflicted whether to follow a blow-by-blow account, or just go to bed and be horribly/delightedly surprised in the morning. When I was a child Dad used to follow it results on the radio, filling in a page from the Evening Post as the count was announced, but now of course it's all bells and whistles and Political scientists, and of course it's less straightforward due to MMP.

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Happy Election Day, friends across the Tasman.
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I have switched the TV off. I shall wake up in the morning and be angry or otherwise. My son has been busy door-knocking and today went to the Black Power (or was it Mongrel Mob?) pad to check that they'd voted. I'm proud of him. They had or were on their way.
Now my Dad's support in his day was the opposite to mine except for the first time I voted (eligible at age 21 but it was my 22nd birthday) when I didn't know any better. But I never told him.

I've wound my watch forward so I'd better be on my way to bed.

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Best wishes for wise voting, Kiwi friends.

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Conversation with my 99 yr old mum:

Her: "I got a letter from the government."
Me: "Was that the same sex marriage survey?"
Her: "I don't know. I had to tick yes or no."
Me: "So what did you do?"
Her: "I filled it out and sent it back".
Me. "Did you tick yes, or no?"
Her. "I can't remember."

[Disappointed]
Damn, I hope I'm that smart one day.

[ 23. September 2017, 21:25: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Conversation with my 99 yr old mum:

Her: "I got a letter from the government."
Me: "Was that the same sex marriage survey?"
Her: "I don't know. I had to tick yes or no."
Me: "So what did you do?"
Her: "I filled it out and sent it back".
Me. "Did you tick yes, or no?"
Her. "I can't remember."


I love it.
May all your respondents be as smart.
Actually, would that make any difference?

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Any news yet, GG, on your postponed surgery?

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Every time I have visited my mother lately, she has been dressed in black. As an ex-government employee she has a fair number of black trousers and jackets. But she usually chooses to wear colourful blouses or stretch tops with them. Not this week. Just a black top with black jacket and black trousers.

When I came in she said:
'Notice what I'm wearing?'
'Yes...all in black today...it certainly sets of your necklace and brooch nicely.'
'There's a new woman at my table.'
'Oh, you mean Enid.' (Enid has been there a month now)
'Yes, that one. I think she is SO rude.'
'Why do you think that?'
'She told me she doesn't like people wearing black.'
'Oh.'
'So guess what I'll be wearing from now on...'

[Disappointed]

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BL,I hope I'm half as subversive as your mother when I'm 99!

My birthday today and heading off to the Cape Winelands with friends for a celebratory lunch. Brilliant spring sunshine, trees bright green and wildflowers out but an icy wind blowing and I don't think I can slip into sandals and a little cotton top without showing off goosebumps and chattering teeth.

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Happy birthday MaryLouise. Spring weather is changeable. Enjoy the time.

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Happy Birthday, MaryLouise, and hope lunch, and the day, is wonderful!

BL: your mum sounds like a right stirrer. [Smile]

[ 28. September 2017, 08:19: Message edited by: Ian Climacus ]

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Happy birthday indeed

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Happy Birthday MaryLouise.

I wore sandals today, but really would have been more comfortable in shoes. Every year I wear sandals too early, as if by doing so I can speed up the approach of summer [Roll Eyes] but the chill wind always reminds me of my foolishness.

I am enjoying spring though an finally being able to do some very basic gardening.

BL I knew a subversive 90 year old who was chucked out of a very poorly run care home for objecting to honey sandwiches (only) for her evening meal. She apparently told the proprietor where he could stick them [Eek!] . The place was closed down soon after. I was very grateful to her for her stirring as I had a less vocal relative there who suffered in silence.

At the time I remember hoping that, if I live to that age, I will be as feisty as she was.

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quote:
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BL I knew a subversive 90 year old who was chucked out of a very poorly run care home for objecting to honey sandwiches (only) for her evening meal. She apparently told the proprietor where he could stick them [Eek!] . The place was closed down soon after. I was very grateful to her for her stirring as I had a less vocal relative there who suffered in silence.
Huia

She sounds as if she could have been the inspiration for
Mrs. Caldicot's Cabbage War.

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... She sounds as if she could have been the inspiration for Mrs. Caldicot's Cabbage War.

Or possibly Diana in Waiting for God.

Good for her, I say - go Banner Granny! [Overused]

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Heh. I like 'Banner Granny'. She is a formidable force indeed. As she likes to remind me - you don't live to be this old without a good deal of stubbornness. My kids have never called her nanna - or gran - she has always been "The Big G".

It figures.

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Many thanks for birthday wishes!

These feisty old women make me think of this famous poem:
Jenny Joseph reading Warning

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HB ML!!!

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HB ML!!!

What she said! Sorry - meant to post greetings yesterday and got side-tracked looking for links to long-defunct TV shows ... [Hot and Hormonal]

Hope you had a good one! [Smile]

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First day of daylight savings I feel out-of-sorts. Don't get me wrong - it is nice to have daylight extend into the evening, but it seems to throw off my internal clock.

And a Public Holiday tomorrow! [Yipee]

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Yes, indeed, Ian - long weekends are a thing of beauty. How on Earth is it already October, though?
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First day of daylight savings I feel out-of-sorts. Don't get me wrong - it is nice to have daylight extend into the evening, but it seems to throw off my internal clock.

And a Public Holiday tomorrow! [Yipee]

Yes. I have no need to be up early but did have a shock when I looked at clock this morning. 8:45 am. I do like the longer evenings but it takes me a while to get used to it.

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I sometimes find that my body-clock feels as if it's a week or two ahead of the clock-changing, especially the winter one. A couple of weeks before the clocks go back I start thinking I'm really looking forward to that extra hour in bed on a Sunday morning. In fact this morning I woke at around six (I usually get up about 7:30 on a Sunday to be at the Cathedral in time) and couldn't get my head round how dark it still was.

It doesn't work quite so well in the summer though ... [Big Grin]

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We put our clocks forward last weekend and I've felt slightly disorientated ever since. It's getting better, but I find it takes about a fortnight usually for me to feel in sync with the rest of the country.

I like daylight saving, it's just the beginning and end I have problems with.

Huia

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It's really time I moved to QLD or NT again ... I loathe daylight saving!

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It's really time I moved to QLD or NT again ... I loathe daylight saving!

Move to Arizona -- you'd love our climate, and we don't observe DST!

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quote:
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We put our clocks forward last weekend and I've felt slightly disorientated ever since. It's getting better, but I find it takes about a fortnight usually for me to feel in sync with the rest of the country.

I like daylight saving, it's just the beginning and end I have problems with.

Huia

My thoughts too, Huia. Particularly as I needed to be up really early to be ready when son calls to collect me today fro trip well up the mountains. Not all that far really, but plans mean an early arrival there.

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quote:
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It's really time I moved to QLD or NT again ... I loathe daylight saving!

Come to WA! The DS curse has long been banned here!

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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
It's really time I moved to QLD or NT again ... I loathe daylight saving!

Move to Arizona -- you'd love our climate, and we don't observe DST!
Neither does Saskatchewan ... [Devil]

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Originally posted by Zappa:
It's really time I moved to QLD or NT again ... I loathe daylight saving!

Move to Arizona -- you'd love our climate, and we don't observe DST!
Neither does Saskatchewan ... [Devil]
I don't think Zappa would like the climate of Saskatchewan.
[Razz]

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Any news yet, GG, on your postponed surgery?

This Thursday, 5 October.
And the surgeon's gone off on more sabbatical. I googled the. new one, and he sounds excellent.
A cousin who's a retired nurse plans to look after me when I leave the hospital.

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Originally posted by Piglet:
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Zappa:
It's really time I moved to QLD or NT again ... I loathe daylight saving!

Move to Arizona -- you'd love our climate, and we don't observe DST!
Neither does Saskatchewan ... [Devil]
I don't think Zappa would like the climate of Saskatchewan.
[Razz]

Funnily enough we looked at doing an exchange there, once ...

Meanwhile one of my 7291 daughters dropped in from Melbourne for a couple of hours today
[Axe murder] [Yipee] [Axe murder]

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Just for the record, I love daylight saving. So great having long light evenings in this part of the world. Very much over the cold short days of winter, and the October long weekend heralds a sigh of relief from me. My sister in Queensland detests DS, so she is in the right place. Although even the Atherton tablelands have been terribly hot over the last month.

There are many times I would have happily traded places with her.

BL. Welcoming warmth and later light gladly.

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I don't think Zappa would like the climate of Saskatchewan.
[Razz]

I know. [Devil] [Two face] [Devil]

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I notice Jugular's sense of humour has finally gotten up the nose of the powers that be. I can only think that if he is offending the church hierarchy so much then he must be going in the right direction. He may not be following C of E protocols, but he is most certainly following in the footsteps of that blasphemous rabbi named Yeshua...

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quote:
Originally posted by Piglet:
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
I don't think Zappa would like the climate of Saskatchewan.
[Razz]

I know. [Devil] [Two face] [Devil]
Piglet! ( and I say this with the greatest respect, because you are a Host [Overused] ) you are a stirrer!
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It must be why you fit so well into this
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Huia

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rexory
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quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
I notice Jugular's sense of humour has finally gotten up the nose of the powers that be. I can only think that if he is offending the church hierarchy so much then he must be going in the right direction. He may not be following C of E protocols, but he is most certainly following in the footsteps of that blasphemous rabbi named Yeshua...

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Piglet
Islander
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Piglet! ( and I say this with the greatest respect, because you are a Host [Overused] ) you are a stirrer!
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It must be why you fit so well into this
thread [Razz]

I aim to please ... [Snigger]

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Zappa
Ship's Wake
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quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
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Originally posted by Zappa:
It's really time I moved to QLD or NT again ... I loathe daylight saving!

Come to WA! The DS curse has long been banned here!
It's tempting. When Fr Jugular becomes AB.

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rexory
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
It's really time I moved to QLD or NT again ... I loathe daylight saving!

Come to WA! The DS curse has long been banned here!
It's tempting. When Fr Jugular becomes AB.
Why am I envisioning flying pigs?

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Lothlorien
Ship's Grandma
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Galloping Granny, I do not know if you are up to reading here yet after surgery, but hope things went well and that you make a quick recovery.

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Piglet
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Absolutely. {{GG}} [Votive]

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Zappa
Ship's Wake
# 8433

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quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
Why am I envisioning flying pigs?

Dammit, I told you to stay away from the weed

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rexory
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
Why am I envisioning flying pigs?

Dammit, I told you to stay away from the weed
[Big Grin]

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