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Zappa
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Well that was a game

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Not quite as comprehensive stuffing as the ABs did a couple of weeks ago, but I should imagine it was rather, um, exciting.

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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Well that was a game

Were the after-match celebrations up to those in Taranaki after winning the Log of Wood* [Big Grin]

I don't watch TV much, but I was at a friend's place last night and was struck by one of the spectators whom I think may have been a Springbok in post-apartheid South Africa. He quoted Danie Craven (sp?) as saying that there would never be a black man in the Springboks. The man then went on to say, "I forgive, but I don't forget".

*For those who don't follow NZ Provincial rugby (i.e most of the world) Canterbury was defeated by Taranaki in a match for the Ranfurly Shield, a local trophy. I don't really follow rugby, but I think it's good when trophies are shared around, instead of one side always winning [Razz]

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Oh, rugby, she said vaguely. By all accounts it was a nail-biter.

I always enjoy seeing how multiracial the crowd at Newlands have become, given that for so many decades South African rugby was white as the driven snow.

GG [Votive]

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Whiter than that, I'd say. I was amongst those demonstrating against the rugby tour in 1971. Not arrested fortunately. But it's still the game played in Heaven.

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WoW! I just hit ten thousand posts!!! It's taken me 15 years to the month.

I remember when Mousethief, being the Ship's most prolific poster did that, and I was in awe, but he of course didn't take so long.

Today I'm thinking of my late father as it would have been his birthday and, coincidently, making his favourite soup. It's wet and windy out, so perfect soup making weather.

Thinking of GG too and hoping her recovery is going well.

Huia

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Happy 10,000th post, Huia! [Yipee]

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Well done Huia. I lurked for a long time after joining.

Yes, GG. Hope all is going well with you and your recovery.

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So Jugs' predicament in the West has now gone National, and A Certain Diocese in the East also made the National news, it now being common knowledge that they donated a million shekels to the No campaign. Gosh it's interesting, ain't it. [Roll Eyes]

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I can't help thinking they could have found a better use for their $1,000,000.*

Excuse my ignorance (not being from Down Under), but what happened to Jugular?

* Feeding the poor, paying their organists decent salaries ... [Devil]

[ 12. October 2017, 00:34: Message edited by: Piglet ]

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Piglet try [deleted]this online news site[/URL]

[link that outs Jugular deleted pending further consideration]

[ 12. October 2017, 21:33: Message edited by: Alan Cresswell ]

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On a less serious note; here we are in NZ waiting for Winston Peters, Leader of NZ First to announce which Party he will give his support to (and thus enable to form a government), and the vote that is attracting a fair amount of dissention between flatmates, couples and friends is "Which bird should win the vote for Bird of the Year?" The showy Kereru (NZ Wood Pidgeon), without a brain to bless itself with, the night calling owl like Ruru or morepork, with it's haunting cry, the Kea, an intelligent Alpine Parrot or???

Just to declare my bias I would support the Papango, the Black Scaup, a diving duck that looks like the plastic bathtub ducks, except that it's black, but for some reason ducks traditionally don't do well in these competitions.

The serious reason for this yearly competition is to raise interest in, and support for NZ birds, many of which are on the endangered list.

Anyway all of the above birds are more interesting than politicians, and in the Kea's case arguably more intelligent. [Razz]

Huia - not in the running, extinct birds don't count [Waterworks]

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You can hear Jugular speaking on the ABC Religion and Ethics program [deleted]here.[/URL]

[deleted link outing Jugular pending consideration]

[ 12. October 2017, 21:34: Message edited by: Alan Cresswell ]

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Thank you for the links, BA and BL. I sincerely hope the Diocesan court finds in Jugular's favour.

[ 12. October 2017, 19:26: Message edited by: Piglet ]

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I've deleted the two links that identify the real life person behind the Shipmate known to us as Jugular. I've kept a copy of the links, so they can be put back if I hear from Jugular to say he's OK with being outed.

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My spinal operation went well. Six days in hospital, then handed over to a cousin – my age but a retired nurse who is looking after me most professionally and we're having a lot of fun.
Stopped at my place tom make sure I could send a few notes of reassurance, now back to my temporary abode. My greetings to all shipmates.
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Good to hear from you, GG. Take care.

[ 13. October 2017, 00:44: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]

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Glad to hear it, GG. [Smile]

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Great news GG - and best wishes to your cousin trying to keep you in line.

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Wonderful news GG. Look after yourself.
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Good to hear this, GG [Votive]

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Great news, GG!

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Great, GG!

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The HSC approacheth at Chez Curly.

Middle is doing OK, starts on Monday. Somewhat buoyed by his band progressing through semi-finals of a big band competition on Thursday night. I think if they win the national final on 17 December they get to go to Germany. I assume as they're all under 18, chaperones will be required. [Yipee]

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Well done Middle. And god luck getting the chaperone gig Mr Curly!

Ah...the HSC. Final Year 12 exams. It was long ago...I remember thinking my life depended on those results. So much pressure. All the best for those sitting them.

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It is a totally glorious day here.

It's also the day we may have our post election government announced. [Roll Eyes]

Oh well at least I will have a lovely walk.

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Enjoy the walk, Huia. Pleasant day here so far unlike yesterday where there was a chilly stiff breeze all day.

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Lovely here too: 17° and sunny. [Big Grin]

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Zappa
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you mean that pale whitish thing that sometimes appears in the northern skies? [Biased]

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NZ has just had a change of government. I am stunned, happy, but stunned [Yipee]

Huia

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quote:
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NZ has just had a change of government. I am stunned, happy, but stunned [Yipee]

Huia

Much our reaction.

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quote:
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NZ has just had a change of government. I am stunned, happy, but stunned [Yipee]

Huia

I have just read about this on the BBC website. Best wishes to NZ and the new government.

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And the new NZ PM is only 37! An amazingly young age to gain such high office - jolly good luck, and best wishes, to her.

Why, she's young enough to be my daughter IYSWIM, in which case I would be so PROUD...

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Gosh - that is young, although not as young as the bloke who's just become Chancellor of Austria. [Eek!]

Best of luck to Ms. Ardern. [Smile]

[ 19. October 2017, 20:35: Message edited by: Piglet ]

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Yes, I was expecting another party to form government. Shows how much I know...

All the best to Jacinda and her team, and her Greens and NZ First colleagues.

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I'm assuming that NZ First isn't anything like the odious Britain First, which is a very unpleasant off-shoot of the (equally unpleasant) British National Party.

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A lot of the "young" politicians are actually people who have been involved in The Party for many years,they just started in their youth.
A friend of mine who became an MP at 23 had been active in the party since age 11 and Jacinda Ardern, PM has been active since she was 17 ie 20 years involvement.

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Yes, I was expecting another party to form government. Shows how much I know...

All the best to Jacinda and her team, and her Greens and NZ First colleagues.

Ian, no one knew for certain. Winston, who is NZ's longest serving politician, was originally in the National Party, and left to form New Zealand First. In the past NZ First have supported a National-led government and a Labour-led government at different times, and this time he wouldn't make even an indication until all votes had been counted (Special votes always favour Labour and the Greens, and the Greens amassed enough to have one extra MP over their election night total).

Piglet, I don't think I can make a fair comment about Winston Peters and NZ First and where they rank as opposed to other nationalist type groups. He is tougher on defence and law and order issues than Labour or the Greens, they favour cutting immigration (as do Labour), but Labour support an increase in refugees. I have seen him compared to Australia's Pauline Hansen ( which probably doesn't shed much light for you, sorry).

One thing that a European - born New Zealander pointed out to me was in a time when various countries in Europe have moved to the right, NZ has moved to the left.

Interesting and challenging times ahead for the new government, and for us all. [Votive]

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Interesting and challenging times ahead for NZ, yes, Huia. Something quite unexpected.

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Winston's place on a right left spectrum is wherever Winston decided will give Winston the most glory. I fear this will end in tears ... and I'm a hardened lefty.

(Except on the two issues of abortion and euthanasia* ... and I note Victoria has just legalised the latter. Oh well. That's politics. Just done abort or euthanize me, you buggers).

* Not ultra conservative, either, on abortion. More cautious on euthanasia, though, for the reasons Paul Keating pointed out before the vote )

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Winston's place on a right left spectrum is wherever Winston decided will give Winston the most glory. [...snip][/URL] )

I agree. In my opinion, his Nearest equivalent in Australian politics would be Nick Xenophon rather than Pauline Hanson.

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Is it just me that hopes Nick Xenophon comes a cropper in his bid for a seat in the SA parliament?
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Winston's place on a right left spectrum is wherever Winston decided will give Winston the most glory. I fear this will end in tears ... and I'm a hardened lefty.

Yes, that worries me too. There's a reason opponents often refer to the party as "Winston First."

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Is it just me that hopes Nick Xenophon comes a cropper in his bid for a seat in the SA parliament?

No!

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There's getting to be quite a crowd of us then.

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While I disagree with the man on some things, and respect him for others, the bouncing around is a bit odd.

Off to Orange for 2 days for work this week. Last time I was there for a shipmeet where I was picked up on the way at a petrol station on the M4, and had a rollicking good time with many shipmates. Fun days.

Saw a local production of Les Miserables Friday. Very good singing. The head of Environmental Sciences played a pimp and when I saw him afterwards I told him when he comes requesting data I won't look at him the same way!

I hear NZ's PM has said capitalism has been bad for NZ citing homelessness and poverty. I'll nail my colours to the mast and [Overused]

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Church fete here yesterday in nice sunshine after a couple of days of drizzle. As seems to happen at every church we every belong to , the bookish Marama and I were fingered to run the bookstall. It went well, with several hundred books sold. That may be good news for the would-be authors out there, although admittedly we selling second-hand stock cheaply.

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Pigwidgeon

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Originally posted by Tukai:
Church fete here yesterday in nice sunshine after a couple of days of drizzle. As seems to happen at every church we every belong to , the bookish Marama and I were fingered to run the bookstall. It went well, with several hundred books sold. That may be good news for the would-be authors out there, although admittedly we selling second-hand stock cheaply.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has found a book at a used book sale and subsequently looked for more (new) books by the same author.

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Piglet
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Absolutely, and conversely, if you find that you really didn't enjoy a book, it can always go back into the book-stall next year ...

[Devil]

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Huia
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Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
I hear NZ's PM has said capitalism has been bad for NZ citing homelessness and poverty. I'll nail my colours to the mast and [Overused]

I'm definitely with her, it's NZ First I have some doubts about.

Huia

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