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Latchkey Kid
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(No flowers in church during Lent).
Not being a Lent person, I can only guess the reason for this. Are flowers seen as self-indulgent?
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I'm not sure whether it's that they're seen as self-indulgent, or maybe that their absence helps to concentrate the mind, but it's traditional.
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Lent is a time for self-examination and quiet reflection, leading up to the 3 Great Days. So no flowers, we cover statues and icons, brass crosses are either covered or like brass candleticks give way to wooden, and so forth. A sombre time.
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Sending bottled water, juice and canned goods to those left destitute after a devastating fire in the informal settlement in Hout Bay near cape Town.
The fires made worse by galeforce winds and heat. Yesterday the Cape Argus Cycle Tour was cancelled for the first time in all its 40 years because the winds were too dangerous for cyclists, as shown in this video: cyclists blown over.
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Sending bottled water, juice and canned goods to those left destitute after a devastating fire in the informal settlement in Hout Bay near cape Town.
The fires made worse by galeforce winds and heat. Yesterday the Cape Argus Cycle Tour was cancelled for the first time in all its 40 years because the winds were too dangerous for cyclists, as shown in this video: cyclists blown over.
I saw the cyclist on the news down here. That fire sounds very nasty.
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Good grief!
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Crikey! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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Brilliant idea - sending food catered for the race to the victims of the fire (of course more long term they will need canned goods).
Even when I rode my bike regularly I avoided strong winds.
The South Island has been really lucky, further north they've has torrential rain, but we've had a few days of fairly light rain.
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Huia, yes, a generous gesture by the catering company that donated all the water and juices intended for the cycle race. The problem is that 15 000 people were left homeless and so members of the general public are also sending in foodstuffs, toiletries and blankets. Emergency shelters have been put up and rebuilding has begun. Because the shacks (sheets of corrugated iron insulated with cardboard and newspaper) are built so close together with dodgy electrical wiring and open gas burners, firetrucks can't get in close enough to extinguish blazes. An ongoing recurring dilemma until decent housing is made available.
Saw an African ground woodpecker under an olive tree this morning, very happy to think it may be nesting in the garden.
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Originally posted by MaryLouise:
Emergency shelters have been put up and rebuilding has begun. Because the shacks (sheets of corrugated iron insulated with cardboard and newspaper) are built so close together with dodgy electrical wiring and open gas burners, firetrucks can't get in close enough to extinguish blazes. An ongoing recurring dilemma until decent housing is made available.
I was in Guguletu a couple of years back, also in Joe Slovo Park, and the former firefighter in me cringed at the flammability and access issues of the area. So many issues to face.
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MaryLouise, I'd never heard of the African ground woodpecker so I Googled. Lovely birds, and I can imagine them being really useful in controlling ants too. I could have done with a few when I lived up North. Eating a packet of raisins and discovering too late that it has been invaded by ants is not an experience I'd like to repeat.
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Eating a packet of raisins and discovering too late that it has been invaded by ants is not an experience I'd like to repeat.
Huia
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Gee D
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Sugar, fibre, minerals and protein all at once!
Good to see you back Rexory.
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Sugar, fibre, minerals and protein all at once!
Good to see you back Rexory.
Thanks, Gee D. Haven't been anywhere: reading but rarely posting. It could be argued that I haven't much worth saying! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Wild birds in the garden means fewer spiders and insects, including ants! Though tiny black ants got into an imperfectly closed bottle of sweet chili jam last week. (Huia)
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Rexory, as long as the congregation does not say that after your sermons.
On another note, it is so very sad to read that Bp Greg has resigned - not because he did something wrong but rather that he did a lot that was right.
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I hadn't read about the Bishop's resignation before I Googled it Gee D. The phrase "martyrs of the Church" came to mind, but in his case, more accurately, martyred by the church. I hope his retirement allows him space to heal and enjoy his life.
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Sitting with my old MacBook in the library at Whitianga, which is easier than fiddling on my iPad.
What was once a day's drive from Home to Holiday I did gently in four days, 600 km, but Oh! the peace now I'm here.
While I was travelling there was a huge wind/rain/heat event up this way, and when I got as far as Coromandel there were emails and texts from friends and neighbours back home, filled with concern. In fact, the floods etc were on the east coast, and I was comfortable in perfect driving weather on the other side of the mountains, warm but not hot, overcast but no rain.
Church here can't afford a minister so any old lay-preaching friends who visit take a turn to lead worship. My health makes it difficult to stand for any length of time but they'll be happy if I lead sitting down. We'll have to see.
Back next week....
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Banner Lady
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So sending pics of flowers can have interesting outcomes. I texted the floral guild some pics of the arrangements I did at the nursing home by way of thanking them (and assuring them that the flowers were used as instructed). The nursing home manager also added her thanks. The floral guild have intimated I may be inducted forthwith into their hallowed ranks without any further training (one has to train for these things???). I would be flattered if I wasn't laughing so hard.
They really don't know what they might be getting by inviting me to join the roster - I hope my sense of humour doesn't get me into trouble. Leaving me to obtain "suitable flowers" could see me using a lot of red hot pokers and snapdragons or belladonna lilies and wormwood. Most of the time I absolutely detest how my denomination is run...stay tuned...this could be the shortest stint on a guild in history!
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LC, I was informed by the esteemed guild that even this has a name...in floristry it is called "Roadsidia" !!
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Banner Lady
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And there were flowers in church today - because the parliamentarians and glitterati will all be there for Evensong to celebrate the Queen's sapphire jubilee. Fabulous blue and gold arrangements that by tomorrow afternoon will also be gracing the nursing home.
I think I could get to like being a floral courier for Jesus.
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Well done, BL on your new role. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) I think the nursing home people may well appreciate the flowers and the reason for them, more than the parliamentarians may.
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Latchkey Kid
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A (70s) couple at the hospital where I provide spiritual care wanted to renew their marriage vows. I asked our UCA pastors to lead the service and everyone was very happy. It was the talk of the nurses that week. It turned out they had been married for 22 years, and people were expecting the marriage to have been longer.
They are now in an aged care home and I have to keep my promise to get the photos to them. A task for tomorrow.
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Latchkey Kid
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Double post. Sorry.
With all the recent rain our smoke detectors are going off from the humidity coming in the windows and steam from the bathroom (a real bathroom with bath and shower). The last time this occurred was 3am this morning and the neighbours heard them. I had to take them down and remove the batteries. They do say they need replacing after 10 years so I went to buy replacements at the electrical supplier.
However, that model is no longer in production, nor is there an equivalent. When they were put in the regulations required that they be mains powered and linked so if they do not recover when it gets dry it looks as though I may have to get all three replaced by an electrician.
Built in obsolescence strikes again.
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Lothlorien
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I seem to have sorted my alarm problems from last year.continual working, batteries replaced. It was six months old and I refused to pay, said it was surely under warranty. Contractor changed his tune when Isaid I would tell everyone about poor workmanship etc. He replaced it at no charge to me, just in time for our annual compulsory inspection of every apartment.
It did go off a couple of days ago, possibly similar cause to yours. However it soon stopped.
I also had to have front door closure fixed a week or so ago.Over the years the screws had loosened and did not fit. Fortunately I was inside when this happened. Had I been outside, door may have needed drastic treatment to let me back in. It is a heavy fire door and part of common property, so fortunately I was not responsible for payment.
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An electrical fault caused part of the roof of a train carriage at Burwood Station to blow off this afternoon. It blew uphigh onto adjoining platform and some reports suggest over double tracks to platform 5.
Platform 3 is possibly the busiest platform at that station as most trains stop there, regardless of their destination from Strathfield, the next station up the line where trains branch out to other lines.
Just a few minutes away.
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That is worrying, with those high voltage lines.
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Smoke alarm problem the same here at Matarangi.
The day after my arrival I was in the shower and had just worked up a great lather with the shampoo mwhen the alarm outside the (open because of hot climate) door started up. No visible steam; poked at the stop button with my walking stick but no luck, and I can't climb on to a chair. I just had to let it run its course.
It did it again next day, but after that I shut the bathroom door.
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Smoke alarm problem the same here at Matarangi.
The day after my arrival I was in the shower and had just worked up a great lather with the shampoo mwhen the alarm outside the (open because of hot climate) door started up. No visible steam; poked at the stop button with my walking stick but no luck, and I can't climb on to a chair. I just had to let it run its course.
It did it again next day, but after that I shut the bathroom door.
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Wonderfully wet here, and rain (but not too much) predicted for the whole week. Cannot remember the last time we had a week of rain. It has wrecked our courtyard's canvas pergola cover which couldn't cope with the sudden weight of water. My fault - I thought about taking it down last week but didn't get to it. We were out grocery shopping when the heavens opened today and by the time we got home the metal roof supports had buckled on one side the awning. TP's tanks are full for the first time this autumn. He is as happy as a duck and spent the afternoon sloshing about putting plants in the garden. And our daphne is flowering for the first time. May it be the harbinger of a good outdoor season for the garden.
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We can sound as if we'reom yje English thread and talk of the weather. A tremendous downpour here at about 6.30, and I was planning on catching my usual train about 7. Probably the heaviest since the current wet started. I left at the usual time, and took forever to get on a train home. To maake ligfe easier all araound, I rang Madame, I got off the train a few stations earlier and met her at a favourite restaurant. I don't know how much fell, but I'd guess about 50 mm. Lucky I got out when I did though. Dlet left a half hour later and took 2 hours rather than the usual 35 minutes. But the garden's responded very well to all this deep-soaking rain and will get through winter comfortably.
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50 mm of rain is not to be sneezed at - I think the technical term would be "more than mildly moist".
Is it generally regarded as a Good Thing in your neck of the woods to get some really heavy rain, to keep forest fires and such at bay, or, like us, do you just see it as a bl**dy nuisance?
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Piglet, your question has several answers. We needed the rain after the massive heat. Even the deep rooted big trees around here are stressed.
Come spring there will be complaints about hazard reduction burn smoke. Then there will be warnings about the growth encouraged by the rains in autumn. Complaints that Sydney is a tinderbox are regular at that time.
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For all in Sydney - and coming soon to those in other centres as well.
OFFICIAL PUBLIC LAUNCH OF EQUAL VOICES, Monday 3rd April at Pitt Street Uniting Church.
Equal Voices is a national, ecumenical movement of Australian Christians who seek to work for reconciliation and to equip LGBTIQ (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, intersex and queer) people and their friends and advocates to bring into being a truly inclusive and welcoming Australian church. For more information, please visit Equal Voices
The Hon Michael Kirby will officially launch Equal Voices on Monday 3rd April, 6.30pm at Pitt St Uniting Church. From 6.30 to 7pm there will be wine and canapés served before proceedings commence. At the close of official proceedings there will be a time for discussion over coffee/tea and selection of cakes, tarts and slices.
Following Michael Kirby's speech there will be a reading of the National Apology and we will also be announcing our plans for the next 12 months, including a Symposium in October, and an Apology will be offered to LGBTIQ Christians and Australians, for the ways in which they have been hurt. Our home page includes a link to RSVP for the Launch.
The homepage also has the National Apology for people to sign. If you would like a hard copy of the apology to sign, or to disseminate through your church and/or social network, let me know and I can send you a copy.
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Do you mind if I pass this on to some I know who would not see this here, but would be interested.?
By all means Loth - please pass along to anyone and everyone who is a GLBTIQ+ supporter!
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Sounds like a great initiative, Emendator!
Packing for a work-related road trip to Swellendam (South Africa). It is still ferociously hot but rain is predicted for tomorrow and drop in temperatures as autumn begins. But the heat may resume with soaring temperatures the day after that, so I have to pack twice as much clothing as I'd like and feel irked.
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Piglet, it was so hot here over summer that even under many layers of mulch the ground is hard and bone dry. The first few days of rain merely moistened the surface. Much soaking rain is needed, but with breathing space in between for the water to settle in. Let's hope the earth gets what it needs.
I had to do the reading of the Samaritan woman at the well today. It made me think about how much of creation around me is thirsting.
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Details in both prayer and thanksgiving threads of a nasty accident Rowen had this afternoon when the side of the mountain road collapsed and her 4WD rolled two or three metres into a culvert, landing on its side. She had to be pulled out through a hole cut in roof. Unhurt!
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{{{Rowen}}} ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
My parents had a similar sort of accident forty-something years ago when their car (a Volvo estate, which is probably why they survived) skidded on melting snow in the Scottish highlands and went down a ravine. They landed on their wheels, and escaped by breaking the back windows, and the only injury sustained was Dad having to have stitches in his hand (presumably cut on the broken glass).
It was long enough ago that seat-belts weren't universally worn, but they did, and it probably saved their lives.
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Best wishes Rowen. As with Piglet's parents, I'd bet that the seatbelts plus the sturdy construction of the 4wd saved any real injury. Bet you're in a bit of genuine shock though, so take things easily.
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A rural hospital in Victoria or elsewhere, I wonder? Poor Rowen, I expect she will be feeling very battered and bruised.
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Poor Rowen, I expect she will be feeling very battered and bruised.
... but pretty darn lucky as well.
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Best wishes Rowen. I guess you're being well looked after.
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Prayers for you Rowan - and blessings for it being a 'close' call: you're probably really sick and tired of seeing the inside of hospitals from a patients' viewpoint!
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Family in Mackay now without power. Niece who works in the Emergency Services call centre at Townsville says so many extra personnel have arrived from down south they are stacked in like sardines waiting for the aftermath of Cyclone Debbie.
The slower the system the more intense it gets. My sister is predicting it will go up the Burdekin River towards the huge dam there as warm water draws cyclones. A tense waiting period over the next few hours. Lord have mercy.
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Prayers for all affected by Cyclone Debbie.
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