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jacobsen
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Names out of a hat.
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Penny S
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What I did was to use the warm up runaround, with whistle stops and a variety of numbers called out, and they had to organise themselves into groups of that number. Then, when I had worked out that I could do x teams of y members, I would call out x, and then line up each self selected group so that each member was in a different line. Sneaky. I didn't have all the best ones in one group, that way, but spread about. (Every now and then there would be a team which won everything, but I would then swap them about. They didn't seem to mind.)
Nobody got to be last picked.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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I didn't need to be picked last to know I was irredeemably shite. Not to mention therefore and therefrom a complete spanner.
[ 11. February 2018, 13:19: Message edited by: Karl: Liberal Backslider ]
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Leorning Cniht
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
I didn't need to be picked last to know I was irredeemably shite. Not to mention therefore and therefrom a complete spanner.
This. Kids aren't stupid. They all know that if you give the ball to speccy four-eyes, you may as well just give it to the other team. The fact that speccy four-eyes is one of this week's team captains doesn't make the slightest bit of difference.
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Curiosity killed ...
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It depends on how PE is timetabled. In many secondary schools half the year is timetabled for PE at the same time, so 90-100 students. This can allow some schools to split that cohort into ability groups so that, for example, all the groups are playing in teams, more able students together with specific instruction in rules and higher level skills, the less able group(s) is (are) also playing the same game, but with more concentration on practising basic skills.
It takes the PE department to be organising students based on abilities in PE, which may not match academic abilities or be the same across all sports.
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Aravis
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Our games lessons were divided by sporting ability. As I had undiagnosed hyper mobility and was generally dyspraxic, this policy put me in the games group with a lot of girls from the D and E academic streams who basically refused to try at anything. The games teacher usually did exercise with us for a short while, then disappeared to the staff room for a coffee and told us to jog round the block (this was about a mile or two I think). Most of the others started running up the road then crept back the other way and went to the shop for sweets.
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jacobsen
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Bunking off games was a favourite ploy for us in 5th and 6th form. Plus, our games field on the edge of town seemed to get the Siberian blasts unmodulated by anything in the way.
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My younger daughter had serious vision problems, and had to start wearing contact lenses when she was nine. They hurt, but she was so glad she could see clearly that she put up with the pain.
When she started junior high school (age 12) the school sent a form to the parents at the beginning of the year asking if the child had any special problems. I wrote a detailed explanation, saying that it was especially painful for her to look up or look at bright lights. After some months, I learned from someone else that when they played volley ball, she made no effort to hit the ball, and at least once it bounced off her head. The lights in the ceiling were very bright, and looking up caused pain anyway. I went to the school and talked to the teacher; she said that the girl should have been mature enough to explain this. Very few twelve-year-olds are willing to volunteer the information that there is something wrong with their bodies. Since this was the age-group that this woman worked with, she should have known that.
My daughter's eye problems were enough to put up with; she didn't need the extra problems caused by the gym teacher.
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geroff
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Is it true that one of the marks of a Christian is to be the one who was always picked last, or not picked at all?
I hated PE as it was just an extension of general and specific bullying.
What didn't help was the time I was so far at the back of the cross country that I got lost (having only moved to the area a week before). I also had hayfever and undiagnosed asthma so I was generally rubbish.
I like Karl have never found a sport. When we joined a gym (aged 42, the shared changing rooms reminded so much of school I couldn't go). I have an idea that I want to take up cycling but I have problems with having to wear the cyclists' uniform and be good at it.
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Pigwidgeon
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I hated PE as it was just an extension of general and specific bullying.
Absolutely. And in addition to the bullying of my classmates (this was ages 9-11), the teacher was a bully as well. If you couldn't run/throw/catch/bat you were treated like garbage. (He did nothing to help one's running/throwing/catching/batting skills, which was supposed to be his job.)
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geroff
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Quite appropriately one of my 'teachers' was one Mr Batterham. ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Originally posted by geroff:
I have an idea that I want to take up cycling but I have problems with having to wear the cyclists' uniform and be good at it.
Fortunately neither of these are compulsory, although I can recommend the padded trousers/shorts/tights as they do avoid arse-pain.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by geroff:
I hated PE as it was just an extension of general and specific bullying.
Absolutely. And in addition to the bullying of my classmates (this was ages 9-11), the teacher was a bully as well. If you couldn't run/throw/catch/bat you were treated like garbage. (He did nothing to help one's running/throwing/catching/batting skills, which was supposed to be his job.)
Of course not. If you can't do them naturally you'll never put any silverware in their trophy cabinet, so they've no motivation. Besides, they and their favourites (for all the talk of sports being character building there was a positive correlation between the sportsmen and the people who made my school life unpleasant) need someone to despise.
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Arethosemyfeet
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
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Originally posted by geroff:
I have an idea that I want to take up cycling but I have problems with having to wear the cyclists' uniform and be good at it.
Fortunately neither of these are compulsory, although I can recommend the padded trousers/shorts/tights as they do avoid arse-pain.
I prefer just to have a padded saddle, myself. Admittedly, my riding a 100lb cargo trike is a little different from the MAMILs on their carbon fibre speed machines.
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wild haggis
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PE has changed in many schools today. Unfortunately it is not helped by PE syllabi being influenced by the latest half baked ideas from politicians and the media, instead of listening to teachers and pupils.
I get sick and tired of hearing people who never go into schools critisising education. The people who dis modern PE multidisciplinary/non-competitive methods and force their outdated ideas on schools are often hardly peons of fitness themselves; they are usually male, often having a tendency to bully and are out of touch with young people today; they have memories of a sporting golden past that never really existed.
Sorry but it does get me very cross.
Kids have been put off exercise when it has been badly taught by people who don't understand that exercise can be obtained by other fun methods that may actually burn off more calories and be more engaging for all abilities and disabilities, than team games.
A good teacher will match lessons to his/her kids. The idea that sport/PE needs to be "traditional" and competitive, is wrong and discriminatory - and usually male.
Things such as disco dance, street dance, hip hop (many boys love these forms of dance/exercise, if properly taught) and zumba can be used instead of the usual apparatus and trad. team games. Dance can be used very effectively in building co-operation and physical fitness. It can burn off many more calories than hanging around a games pitch waiting for someone to pass you a ball or waiting for your turn to go on the pitch (and probably sitting around bored and freezing).
I'll never forget the boys from the school football team that I did a Scottish Country Dancing lesson with. They poo pooed the idea but were all out of breathe after a basic warm up, before I had even started to teach them the dance set. My group of dancers thought it very funny that they were so unfit!!
If children are into competitive sport that's fine and they can join classes or clubs that will encourage and develop that talent. But for the majority.............let's give them exercise that is fun and enjoyable.
We have put kids off exercise and turned them into couch potatoes by insisting exercise is only done by one or two methods, for too long now.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Though to be fair the alternative of dance would have had me on the football pitch pretty quickly ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
If I've led a wicked life my personal Hell will be an eternal dance session to loud upbeat dance music.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by geroff:
I hated PE as it was just an extension of general and specific bullying.
Absolutely. And in addition to the bullying of my classmates (this was ages 9-11), the teacher was a bully as well. If you couldn't run/throw/catch/bat you were treated like garbage. (He did nothing to help one's running/throwing/catching/batting skills, which was supposed to be his job.)
I know what you mean. South Wales has produced tens of thousands of teachers and thousands of PE/Gym teachers. Down here the saying is that:
- Those who can, do
- Those who can't, teach
- Those who can't teach, teach gym.
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LutheranChik
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I also loathed PE.
One memorable day in junior high, we had to jump on the trampoline. One of my classmates was morbidly obese — I would say close to 300 pounds — and was terrified of getting on the trampoline, but our unsympathetic teacher insisted. First she almost upended the thing; then she stood trembling on it while the teacher screamed at her, “ JUMP! JUMP! HIGHER!” The rest of the class, acting as spotters, were also terrified, andcwhenever the girl listed to one side or another, the girls at that edge jumped back, eliciting more screaming from the teacher: “ SPOT HER! SPOT HER!” Back to her victim: “HiGHER! JUMP HIGHER!” And she finally did...and fell off the trampoline, as other girls ran for cover, and broke her leg.
Please tell me that PE is better now.
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