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Paul W.

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If you're using Internet Explorer (I've got IE5), go to the Tools menu, then Internet Options. Click on the Advanced tab, and look for any options that mention Script Debugging. Make sure that debugging is disabled.

You only really need this if you're developing and testing websites.

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Paul W.

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Double checked on IE6. The option is "Disable Script Debugging", it's about the 6th one down. Select it to stop the messages coming up.

Paul W

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The Obscure
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thanks - so all I'm doing is ignoring the problem now???
Ah well, so long as it works... [Wink]

Thanks very much [Big Grin]

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Chorister

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I've done the same now - so thank you too! [Smile]

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ChrisT

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Oh dear, someone's web page code not quite perfect? [Wink]

I shouldn't laugh really, it's probably me that will have to fix it [Roll Eyes]

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Chorister

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Whose web page? - nothing wrong with mine..... [Confused]

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David
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quote:
Originally posted by ChrisT:
Oh dear, someone's web page code not quite perfect? [Wink]

I shouldn't laugh really, it's probably me that will have to fix it [Roll Eyes]

Either that or the code doesn't meet Microsoft's Patented Open Proprietary nonStandard Standards.
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ChrisT

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David, I can see you have done your research well. Micro$oft strikes again.

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quote:
Originally posted by David:
]Either that or the code doesn't meet Microsoft's Patented Open Proprietary nonStandard Standards.

No! MS-POPnSS(TM) is now deprecated - code should meet MS-dot.NET-opnSS(TM)(R)(C)(and bar)

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chukovsky

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I thought there was a specific thread on PM issues but can't find it so here goes:

I got the email notification of a PM, which had the person's email address at the bottom (I don't have mine on my profile). I replied by emailing them, as I didn't see the PM in my profile - thought it was just delayed.

However 2 or 3 days later I don't see it still. I don't know if the other shipmate has the PM in their outbox. I never got a flashy notification, either.

I am told there is a precedent for this?

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chukovsky

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OK, have answered my own question.

This shipmate didn't send me a PM - it was an "email via the ship". I've never successfully sent one of these before, nor received one... so I didn't know what they looked like...

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Warning : Do not download Java version 1.4.1

Just downloaded and installed Sun Microsystems JAVA 1.4.1_03 on the advice of another site and not only did the other site fail to respond but the Ship's Cafe died at the same time.

I am now trying to download 1.3.1_08 in the hope that it will cure both sites. Will let you know.

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Quizmaster

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JAVA 1.3.1_08 is now installed and I have discovered the weird sounds that the cafe can make under this version of Java.

Other site got further but is still not working.

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*The lowly Church mouse*

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Sorry
I need help!
I tried to do a quote in one of my replies but it didn't work.
I tried quote marks and bold but it did not happen.
Help [Angel] [Wink]

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Chocoholic
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Dear Angel*

Under the space where you can put your message, next to the smilies there is a panel called 'Instant UBB code'. If you click either quote or bold you get (QUOTE) (/QUOTE) appear in square brackets (or B and /B in them). Just put these either side of what you want quoted.

Alternatively at the top of the post you wish to quote, next to the persons name there are a few icons. One is a set of quote marks which you can click on to quote that message.

I hope this is helpful, if not please feel free to ask for a lesson next time I see you!

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Smudgie

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The simple way is to click on the quotation marks of the post you are quoting from. This will open a reply window with the quote already in place.

To do the work yourself, you need to open the quote by typing the word QUOTE surrounded by square brackets [ and ]. To make the quote appear in bold, you then type QB, again with square brackets round it.

Once you have typed your quote in, you need to switch off the bold by typing /QB in square brackets, and then switch off the quoting by typing /QUOTE in square brackets.

So in the end your post will look like this (but without the spaces between the square brackets and the upper case characters):

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[ QUOTE ] [ QB ] Whatever babble you wish to quote in bold for everyone's delectation [ /QB ] [ /QUOTE ]

Then whatever it is you want to say about it! [Wink]

Hope this helps.

[Ha, Chocoholic beat me to it!]

[ 17. July 2003, 14:51: Message edited by: Smudgie ]

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*The lowly Church mouse*

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Thank you Smudgie & Chocoholic
I will now go home and practice!
[Confused]

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jlg

What is this place?
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And in case you haven't noticed it, here in Styx is a thread ( Practice UBB code here ) where you can practice in peace and quiet. If you skim through the Practice thread, you also might happen across answers to other "How do I ..." questions.

{fixed a typo}

[ 17. July 2003, 17:14: Message edited by: jlg ]

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Esmeralda

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The FAQ tells me I can edit my own posts, but doesn't tell me how! I may be very stupid, but when I get the message that tells me I have 2 mins starting NOW to make it say what I wanted it to say, I don't know where to go to do that. [Help] (I do know how to use smilies...)

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Smudgie

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Fifth icon along at the top of your post. Looks like a piece of paper with a pencil. Click on it. Fast [Wink]

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sabine
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Just to feed my grandiose fantasy, I did the search feature under my own screen name and found that posts I had made in the last couple of weeks (on All Saints and Mystery Worshipper) were not reflected in the results.

How often is the search feature updated?

Will my admiring throng (of one [Smile] ) be able to find out that I have posted everywhere I have actually posted?

Has anyone looking for another person's recent posts reported this problem, or have I just now fed my paranoid fantasy?

Curious,
sabine

[ 24. July 2003, 03:32: Message edited by: sabine ]

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sabine
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Sorry to double post, but this might be a problem if a someone remembered "something" that a person had said "somewhere" and wanted to use the search feature to jog their memory.

For example, I posted on Mystery Worshipper on July 7 but I wouldn't find that in a search.

I posted on the All Saints Prayer Thread on July 22 and 23 but don't find that.

Most interesting of all, I posted on Styx today July 23 and between these two messages, I checked search and found my last Styx post listed as April 24.

So I'm thinking that there is some sort of lead time needed for the search to be updated. And further, I'm thinking that it is more than 2 weeks, since my last post on Mystery Worshipper was July 7 and isn't in the search feature yet.

I'm not trying to criticise or nudge, just figure out how the search feature is set up so I would know if using it could be my first choice if I remembered a person posting a couple of days ago, but couldn't remember where and wanted something to jog my memory.

sabine

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Erin
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There is no such thing as a username search.

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sabine
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Right you are, Erin, I was using the Keyword function and typed my screen name in.

Sounds to me that the search function was not set up to find posts by individuals (what you said), so I won't try to use it that way.

Still curious, though, as to why, since I sign all my posts, that some posts wouldn't show up when I type "sabine" in the Keyword section and use Search In: "all messages"

Probably not worth pursuing, since I may be the only person who would want to search out recent posts by a particular individual.

thanks,
sabine

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anglicanrascal
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Sabine, here is your recent posts list - you can check through there for your posts that are on threads that have not been deleted.

Pax,
anglicanrascal

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chukovsky

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Sabine - if you search for your name in the Search function you will only find posts where your name has been used in the text of the post, usually where you have been quoted.

If you want to search for your own posts, either click on the number of posts in any post of yours, or search by your shipmate number, not name.

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sabine
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Thanks, folks, and I'm sorry if I wasted your time. Although I originally did a search using my own screen name just for fun, my real intent was to be able to find the recent posts of others, which I finally (duh!) remembered I can do through the directory.

duh! duh! duh! (we don't seem to have a duh! emoticon, but I feel it applies to me [Smile] )

sabine

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Esmeralda

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Just posting to find out if Smudgie's excellent advice works... It did! [Yipee]

[ 29. July 2003, 21:56: Message edited by: Esmeralda ]

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Joyeux

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Not immediately ship-related, but more cafe question: can I have two versions of Java on my computer at once? We've recently upgraded, and now have a newer version of Java that won't allow the cafe to work. I plan on getting a new computer, etc., in a few months, but I don't want to wait that long to get back into the cafe.

Thank you!

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ChrisT

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Try the Cafe FAQs (http://cafe.shipoffools.com/cafe_faqs.html), Joyeux, that may answer your question. As far as I know you can only have one version of Java running at once. However there are versions that do work correctly.

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Joyeux

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Thank you, Chris!

The hurdle now is convincing the rest of the family to uninstall the newer version so I can install the version that works...

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ChrisT

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Simple answer to that - do it and don't tell them!

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Erin
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I have two versions of Java installed on my PC -- 1.3 and 1.4. You just have to go into the console and make sure that the correct version is associated with your browsers.

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quote:
Originally posted by Smudgie:
Fifth icon along at the top of your post. Looks like a piece of paper with a pencil. Click on it. Fast [Wink]

Can't we increase it to 3 minutes? 5 allows people (coughpyx_ecough) to mess around with our heads, 2 is too short a time. 3 sounds like a good compromise.

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RuthW

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You get 2 minutes to decide to edit and to click on the pencil - you don't have to get the editing done in two minutes. Once you've got the editing window open you can sit there and ponder for as long as you can keep your connection open.
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CorgiGreta
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Ruth,


Where is this string of icons? I feel so stupid.


Ahhhhhhhhh,YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

[ 10. August 2003, 19:15: Message edited by: CorgiGreta ]

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Gremlin
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quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
You get 2 minutes to decide to edit and to click on the pencil - you don't have to get the editing done in two minutes. Once you've got the editing window open you can sit there and ponder for as long as you can keep your connection open.

Phew, that's a relief. Now I don't have to panic about screwing up an edit because of pressure to get it back in within 2 minutes! I was just waiting for me to have to double edit a post because the first one was done in such a rush.

Gremlin

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that Wikkid Person
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Perhaps my using Opera for my browser is why I get more like 2 seconds. This may go a fair distance toward explaining some of my posts.

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Robert Porter-Miller

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I know I should preview post first - so that makes me a bit of a fuckwit but ........ When you edit your own messages you have the following displayed at the end:


[ 11. August 2003, 11:37: Message edited by: Robert Miller ]


this is a bit misleading, it makes it look as if I did something really off the wall the first time, when all I did was forget an end bold tag.

Seeing as we only have 2 minutes to edit the post, the edits I would have thought wouldn't be too major and not too many people would have the opportunity to read the original post.

So can the message be dispensed with?

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Paul W.

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No, it keeps the Hellhosts amused.

Paul W

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jlg

What is this place?
Why am I here?
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Robert Miller, read up a few posts and you will note that the two minute restriction applies only to deciding you want to edit. Once the edit window is opened, you can take all the time you want to make changes.

You are also free to add a little note explaining what you edited, such as
{fixed typo}
and if you put it at the very bottom of your post, it will show up directly above the [...message edited by...] line.

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RuthW

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quote:
Originally posted by Robert Miller:
[ 11. August 2003, 11:37: Message edited by: Robert Miller ]

this is a bit misleading, it makes it look as if I did something really off the wall the first time, when all I did was forget an end bold tag.

Seeing as we only have 2 minutes to edit the post, the edits I would have thought wouldn't be too major and not too many people would have the opportunity to read the original post.

So can the message be dispensed with?

No. As jlg has said, and as I explained as well, you have two minutes to decide to edit, but once you've got that edit box open as far as we know you have unlimited time to complete the edit. So it's important that we know whether a message has been edited, as someone can easily quote a post in their reply while someone is pondering their edit of that same post. Without the edit message it could make people look like they were putting words into someone else's mouth.
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frin

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Hosts generally follow a convention of putting in the last line of an edited post their reason for so doing e.g. [edited code] or [edited for clarity]. Non-hosts who wish to make clear that they only messed with an unclosed tag or took out an extra instance of the word 'not' which totally reversed the meaning of what they were saying could always adopt the same technique.

[edited for illustration purposes]

[ 11. August 2003, 20:26: Message edited by: frin ]

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Gremlin
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quote:
Originally posted by frin:
Non-hosts who wish to make clear that they only messed with an unclosed tag or took out an extra instance of the word 'not' which totally reversed the meaning of what they were saying could always adopt the same technique.

I try to, but don't always remember.

Gremlin

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Ahhh...I see the screw-up fairy has visited us again...
Oh I get it... like humour... but different.

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jlg

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Why am I here?
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Ah, but one is allowed to edit the edit! And no, it doesn't produce additional copies of the [...messaged edited...] line, it just updates the time stamp.

Believe me, I know. [Roll Eyes]

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Alan Cresswell

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actually, I tried that on the practice thread yesterday wondering if it was possible. you can only edit the post within 2 minutes of posting it, not the previous edit. So you have to be really quick to edit an edit.

You can still preview post the edit before finalising it, of course.

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Robert Porter-Miller

Tiocfaidh Separabit
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Thanks everyone, of course I'll be more careful in the future. But maybe just maybe I will occassionaly slip up.

Sorry if you've repeated yourself but thanks for making the reasoning more clear.

I'm off to practice UBB now

[Changed practive to practice [Smile] ]

[ 12. August 2003, 10:35: Message edited by: Robert Miller ]

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Let's all "Release Some Tension"

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humblebum
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Does anyone know why I get "The page cannot be displayed" errors every so often whenever I reply to a post?

No matter how many times I retry, it comes up with the same error - but I can still see all the other pages on the boards.

But I can still post to other threads (eg this one).

It's really very annoying - I have to wait until the next day to post from my work PC (by which time the discussion has usually moved on)...

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jlg

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It usually means that a server is overloaded or otherwise not available. It could be your ISP server or it could be the Ship's server.

If you're getting it frequently (i.e. many times a day) it's probably your ISP.

The solution is to go do something else for a while and then try again. You don't have to wait for the next day.

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humblebum
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But I do have to wait til the next day [Frown]

What happens is that I'll not be able to post a reply against a particular thread, but I am able to post against other threads. Last night, after I posted to this thread, I tried the first one again and got the same error message.

I'm wondering if its something to do with my internet connection. As yet, it's only happened to me on my home PC, but not my office PC.

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