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Paul W.

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You could try clicking that "JavaTester" link in my last post on this thread. That will give you a better idea of exactly what Java version your browser has decided to use.

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Jack the Lass

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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
In InternetExplorer, open the Internet Properties window (under Tools on the menu bar). Select the Advances tab ... somewhere in that list there will be a Java (Sun) section, make sure the use "Version 2 v1.3.1 for applet" option (or something similar to that) is checked, and also the "Enable Java Console" tab that will be somewhere below it.

Thank you. I'm sorry this is so painful [Smile]

I followed that advice, and it only has an option for "Version 2 v.1.4.2 for applet" despite me downloading (apparently successfully) version 1.3.1. And I couldn't see an "Enable Java Console" tab anywhere.

[ 01. March 2004, 18:16: Message edited by: Jack the Lass ]

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make sure you have closed down all instances of your browser...

Then open up control panel via the start menu. The versions of Java should then be listed in there. By double clicking on them and then selecting the browser tab you can turn that version on or off in your web browser.

[Smile]

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Matrix
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Is anyone else having trouble getting into the cafe? I haven't had probs before, and for some reason can't get in on either of my computers.

I've cleared the cache etc, but nothing.

Has something changed in the last few days?

M UK

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dolphy

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Been having problems here again today with the cafe.

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Alan Cresswell

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Well, I've only just been able to get back onto the Ship at all after about an hour. May be related.

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dolphy

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Thanks Alan, all working now.

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I couldn't get onto the site for quite some time earlier. Glad it's working now [Smile]

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Matrix
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Managed to get in now, thankfully

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My email notification informs me I have two new private messages, but there is no sign of them in my profile. Any ideas how I might track them down?

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quote:
Originally posted by Smudgie:
My email notification informs me I have two new private messages, but there is no sign of them in my profile. Any ideas how I might track them down?

No, but I think one of them might be from me [Big Grin]

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Alan Cresswell

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The email notifications will tell you who they're from, when they were sent and what they said. So, though I've no idea why they aren't in your profile, you at least have all the important stuff.

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quote:
Originally posted by Smudgie:
My email notification informs me I have two new private messages, but there is no sign of them in my profile. Any ideas how I might track them down?

Send out a hunting party?
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basso

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quote:
Originally posted by Paul W:
How much of an Organ Fund donation would I have to make to get the cafe upgraded to something that doesn't cause all these hassles?

I think it's about time to ask that question again.

I'm still getting the same error at home -- the server won't even give me the applet. And now I learn that my browser at work won't work with a Java version below 1.4.x.
(It's Mozilla Firefox -- but all Mozilla derivatives have the same requirement.) [Don't suggest IE -- it's not available for Linux.]

The server slipped up once a few months ago and let me in on my home machine, but otherwise I've been locked out there for about 6 months.

<whine whine>

So -- what are the chances for an upgrade to the cafe?

b.

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Paul W.

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quote:
Originally posted by basso:
I'm still getting the same error at home -- the server won't even give me the applet. And now I learn that my browser at work won't work with a Java version below 1.4.x.
(It's Mozilla Firefox -- but all Mozilla derivatives have the same requirement.) [Don't suggest IE -- it's not available for Linux.]

I wasn't too impressed when I saw that requirement in Firefox myself. Are you using KDE on your Linux machine? If you are, you may be able to persuade Konqueror (KDE's own browser and file manager) to open the cafe. Works for me.

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basso

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quote:
Originally posted by Paul W.:
Are you using KDE on your Linux machine? If you are, you may be able to persuade Konqueror (KDE's own browser and file manager) to open the cafe. Works for me.

I've never used KDE -- but I just installed enough of it to run Konq -- and I got into the cafe!!!

Now all I have to do is persuade my boss to let me spend all day at work chatting in the cafe. [Big Grin]

Thanks, Paul. Now I'll try to figure out what's going on at home.

b.

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Could I ask what "flood control" is? Two or three times I've attempted to post but got a message re "flood control", with advice to wait 90 seconds and not use the back button. Each time (adventuress that I am), I've used the back button without waiting 90 seconds and was then able to post successfully.

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RuthW

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The Ship's software is set to prevent apprentices and shipmates from posting within 90 seconds of their last post; the feature is called "flood control." The purpose of flood control is to prevent automated spamming of the boards.
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welsh dragon

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quote:
Originally posted by Pheonix:
make sure you have closed down all instances of your browser...

Then open up control panel via the start menu. The versions of Java should then be listed in there. By double clicking on them and then selecting the browser tab you can turn that version on or off in your web browser.

[Smile]

Pheo

It still doesnt seem to list version 1.3.1...even though I have downloaded it and "unzipped" it...
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Gremlin
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Have you run the executable installer that was in the zip file? (It's probably called something like 'setup.exe')

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Clicking weirdness.

"The plant returns" thread. Started by Nightlamp. Why, when I click on it, is the first post by Fish Fish.? And why does it say "Page 0"?

I was reading this thread earlier and the first post was definitely by Nightlamp, and there was a lot by Karl LB. Where's it gone?

I admit I've been drinking... but this is really odd!

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Lurker McLurker™

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Hmmm, page 1 of this thread seems to contain page 4 and half of page 3.
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Just testing my new sig link. Sorry!

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welsh dragon

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quote:
Originally posted by Gremlin:
Have you run the executable installer that was in the zip file? (It's probably called something like 'setup.exe')

Gremlin

I can't find anything either called executable installer or setup.exe.

Neither have I managed to find a netscape version 4 (Alan's link didn't work).

And in my control panel I seem to have 2 versions of Java 1.4 but none registered of 1.3.1.

Never mind...

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Anselmina
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I'm still having problems since my password was changed. I keep logging on, only to be told I haven't logged on. And yet it seems I can still post! It also means I don't have access to my profile or the directory, as that isn't an option when you're not logged on (even though I have!).

Can someone help to sort me out?

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Ariel
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quote:
Originally posted by welsh dragon:
I can't find anything either called executable installer or setup.exe.

Neither have I managed to find a netscape version 4 (Alan's link didn't work).

And in my control panel I seem to have 2 versions of Java 1.4 but none registered of 1.3.1.

Is there anything in the zip file that ends in .exe? And is there a Readme.txt - this might have some useful info in it.
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frin

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quote:
Originally posted by Anselmina:
I'm still having problems since my password was changed. I keep logging on, only to be told I haven't logged on. And yet it seems I can still post! It also means I don't have access to my profile or the directory, as that isn't an option when you're not logged on (even though I have!).

Can someone help to sort me out?

You need to delete your cookies, close your browser and then open it again and log in to the ship with your new password. That should solve your problem.

You have 4 cookies form the ship all set by forum.ship-of-fools.com and you can get rid of them in Internet Explorer using the Tools menu then Internet Options then delete cookies. In Mozilla this option is listed under Tools then Options then Privacy. I forget where to find your cookies in Netscape, but it is probably similar.

Hope that helps,

'frin

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jlg

What is this place?
Why am I here?
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In Netscape, click on Tools and you will see Cookie Manager on the menu. [Big Grin]
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Anselmina
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Thank you folks. I seem to have solved the problem now! And learnt about the mystery of cookies!

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Hello!

Why does my signature appear sometimes and not others?

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In Theory

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Help! I just pressed something and my browser went full-screen, without all the menus and stuff. How do I get it back to normal?

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In Theory

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OK, I figured it out [Hot and Hormonal]

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Gremlin
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Just in case it happens to someone else... the F11 key is the guilty party. [Smile]

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KenWritez
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There's a new Java upgrade, J2SE Runtime Environment 1.5.0_06-b05. Anyone experienced probelms viewing the Ship after installing the upgrade?

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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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quote:
Originally posted by KenWritez:
There's a new Java upgrade, J2SE Runtime Environment 1.5.0_06-b05. Anyone experienced probelms viewing the Ship after installing the upgrade?

I had to uninstall it because it broke lots of things. Java backward compatibility is shite.

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Soror Magna
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Help! While trying to make a donation to the Organ Fund via a Canadian credit card, I got this message and could go no further:

quote:

Issue number required.

MAE can not be used to make payments in this store.

Any suggestions? Shall I send maple syrup and a tuque instead? OliviaG

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Melangell
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My email has been very slow lately (this is presumably because of the impending changes at Christian Aid's Surefish system) - but it is not amusing when emails take four or five DAYS to arrive. Now I have started getting a small window popping up, headed Enter Network Password. It then says Please type your user name and password. The fields are:

Server: pop3.fish.co.uk
User name:[my email address, already filled in]
Password: [a row of asterisks, presumably my password]

Options given are OK and Cancel

So far I have just clicked on X - but now it has come up six times in the past half hour. Any thoughts as to whether this is genuine, and I should select OK? I have AVG antivirus running...

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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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I think at some point you've mistyped your password. Try re-entering it.

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Scot

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This is tech support for Ship of Fools, not for fish.co.uk, your network, or the internet in general. There are plenty of websites out there that are dedicated to computer issues.

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Melangell
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Many apologies for my misunderstanding of this thread's purpose [Hot and Hormonal]

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Scot

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No problem. I just wanted to catch it before we started getting everyone's general computer questions!

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Tubbs

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quote:
Originally posted by mdijon:
My laptop/browser combination (IE) seems to occasionally fill in web pages from offline memory, even though connected.

This makes it appear that no-one has posted on any boards in the day since I last connected (which I usually spot).

Normally it does refresh if I click on a thread. But occasionally even the thread seems to get filled in from offline memory. This can cause embarrassing cross-posts.

Clicking refresh every so often seems to jump-start it all.

But does anyone share this difficulty, and have any long-term solution to prevent my occasional embarrassment?

Moved from another thread.

It sounds like you need to change your browser settings as it's taking pages from your cache rather than from the Internet.

Select Tools > Internet Options > Settings > And then change the setting to always check for a new page

Hope this works

Tubbs

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mdijon
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Well look at that....

Perfect.

Thanks.

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quote:
Originally posted by mdijon:
Well look at that....

Perfect.

Thanks.

Stopping using Internet Exploder solved that problem for me. Hooray for Firefox!

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mdijon
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Now that's a new one - minding my own buisiness, editing a post and;

quote:
An error has occured:

I can't process time before the world began! at CGIPath/ubb_lib_time.cgi line 500.

Please inform the board administration of this error so that they can abuse the vendor. Thanks!

Or a very old error, I suppose.

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Nicolemr
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OK,I'm having a weird problem. I can't get into the main Heaven page from my home computer. It keeps coming back as "page not found". I can get into every other board, I can get into individual Heaven threads, but I can't get into the main page. This has been going on for awhile, at first I thought it was actually a problem the Ship was having, but at this point it's obviously not. Any ideas, anyone? One thing I did try that didn't work was what someone suggested for another problem a few posts above, changing the setting on checking for new versions of pages.

Thanks.

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Are you using a bookmark or are you clicking on the link on the boards home page? Does this link work?

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Nicolemr
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I use a bookmark to get to the main page of the Ship, then click on the link to the boards main page.

And no, that link just came back page not found.

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# 2095

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Unfortunately, that was the only real idea I had. That link, and the one on the boards home page are correct and are working. It must be a local problem of some sort on your end. What happens if you try a different browser?

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