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Source: (consider it) Thread: FAQs - History of the Ship
Fiddleback
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So when was 'The Gods' set up then?

('The Gods', for those who don't know, is a top secret board that only hosts and administrators are allowed to post on.)


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Robert Armin

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You mean you don't post there? I thought everyone was given the secret password when they achieved Shipmate status?

Oh (shuffles feet nervously) wasn't I supposed to say that......

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Edward Green
Review Editor
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It's a conspiracy I tell you!

However in a spirit of openess I have decided to serialise transcripts of editorial discussion I have. So lets starts with todays:

s3: Hi, can I speak to Catherine Please?
Receptionist: I'm afraid she's on another call.
s3: Ok, it's Edward Green here, I was returning her call about the interview.
Receptionist: Okay. I'll get her to call you as soon as she's available.
s3: Okay. Thanks. Bye.
Click

Next in this exciting series, emails sent to to marketing departments of major publishers ... watch this space!

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Sarkycow
La belle Dame sans merci
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quote:
Originally posted by Fiddleback:
So when was 'The Gods' set up then?

('The Gods', for those who don't know, is a top secret board that only hosts and administrators are allowed to post on.)


It's hardly 'top-secret' is it now? It's been mentioned several times in different threads by shipmates. And none of the hosts/admins have ever denied it's existence - IIRC they've acknowledged it's existence when it's been mentioned. So what definition of top-secret are you working with?

Or do you mean that it's not listed on the main board page? That would get really confusing for people, particularly newbies who tried to click on it, and found that they didn't have access, and then got confused, and then started repetitive threads in styx about it.

Maybe you mean that there shouldn't be a special board for hosts and admins to talk about threads, and hosting changes, and issues that come up? Then they would have to do all that through PMs, and making sure everyone had all the information would be difficult. Much easier to have a board, and simply post it up, so that all hosts/admins can read it, and reply etc.

Viki

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Sean
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Its a pretty reasonable assumption the hosts and administrators talk to each other. How else could they do their job. Does it matter one iota how they do it?

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Ann

Curious
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It even says so in the FAQs - just not what it's named.

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Simon

Editor
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The Gods was set up just after Hurricane Joanne, which must make it just over three years old. Coordinating our efforts in dealing with the hurricane had to be done by email, which was very inefficient, so the board was set up in the aftermath.

The board was then called Editorial. The name change to The Gods only happened a few months ago. There's still a private board called Editorial for discussing main site features and projects, in contrast to The Gods, where issues relating only to the boards are discussed.

There is absolutely no truth in the rumour that there is a Paranoia board hosted by Fiddleback.

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Fiddleback
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Ah but its contents are strictly top sectret. However the spies tell me that there are whole threads dedicated to troublesome shipmates. They're keeping dossiers on us, folks...
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Of course, in the UK, Data Protection requires that they tell us what they say if we ask . . .

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jlg

What is this place?
Why am I here?
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quote:
Originally posted by Fiddleback:
Ah but its contents are strictly top sectret. However the spies tell me that there are whole threads dedicated to troublesome shipmates. They're keeping dossiers on us, folks...

[joke alert ON - please do not take any of the following statments seriously in any way]

Oh goody! So if I go around the Ship causing problems and arguing with the hosts and admins and generally be obnoxious I can have my very own thread? Wheeeee...I can't wait. Just as soon as I iron my husband's underwear and polish the copper pipes in the basement, I'll be sure to find time to do this. What could be more wonderful than to be famous on a board that's not open to the public.

[joke alert OFF]


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Ann

Curious
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quote:
Originally posted by Fiddleback:
Ah but its contents are strictly top sectret. However the spies tell me that there are whole threads dedicated to troublesome shipmates. They're keeping dossiers on us, folks...

Will there be a prize for the shipmate with the longest thread?

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ChastMastr
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(looks very nervous) (joke!)

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starbelly
but you can call me Neil
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As a fairly new host I was all excited about access to the Gods board, only to be sadly dissapointed.

Typical Gods thread:-

Viola - Look, heaven is 4 pages again
Clare - Bother
Viola - I may delete some tonight
Clare - Good idea, so might I
Belisarius - Oh good
Clare - Thats better
Starbelly - Yes.

And the thing is - I am not joking!

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Fiddleback
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quote:
Originally posted by Ann:
Will there be a prize for the shipmate with the longest thread?

According to my mole, Cosmo still has this honour with a four page thread, but I should imagine that Ultraspike is rapidly catching up.


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Ultraspike

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But I don't think we'll catch up with you, Father!

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Simon

Editor
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Fiddleback, do you have a point to make here? If so, please get to it. I'm happy to receive either well-argued negative points or (better) positive suggestions on how the boards can be run better. The sniping you've done so far is a bit of a pain, though, because it's not clear whether you want a serious go at the issues or just a bit of a laugh. And it would be very tiresome for me to enter into the former if all you were doing was the latter... I have better things to do with my time. So. What's it to be?

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Sarkycow
La belle Dame sans merci
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Now that starbelly has revealed secrets from threads on the Gods board to us mere mortals, will he be taken out at dawn and shot? Or merely slapped on the wrist? And will Erin come all the way over from America to administer the correct punishment?

Viki

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David
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Might I also add that you can have Your Very Own Private Board?

Granted, there is a small fee involved, but this is trivial compared to the cost involved in having access to The Gods.

We pay with our sanity.


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jlg

What is this place?
Why am I here?
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Sorry, Capn Simon, sir, for giving in to the urge to stir the Fiddleback pot. For those of us who don't know the whole story, things are sometimes just amusing. But I've been on the other side of the table, so I understand that "information not available to everyone" is not synonymous with "no information" or "pack of lies".

jlg (who has held elected office in a very, very, very small town with lots of people who assume all elected officials are always lying or trying to get away with something unnecessary just to make people pay higher taxes.)


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ChastMastr
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quote:
Originally posted by sarkycow:
Now that starbelly has revealed secrets from threads on the Gods board to us mere mortals, will he be taken out at dawn and shot?

Nothing so violent as that. However, everyone listen up! Everyone who has seen those secrets! There's one more... do you see that little red light? Look carefully now...

*FLASH*

What were we talking about? Oh, yes, the weather is nice this time of year, isn't it? I do wonder what those "secret boards" are all about... guess we'll never know!

Men in Black II will be out this summer, for those who care.

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Sarkycow
La belle Dame sans merci
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quote:
Originally posted by Fiddleback:
According to my mole, Cosmo still has this honour with a four page thread, but I should imagine that Ultraspike is rapidly catching up.

quote:
Originally posted by Ultraspike:
But I don't think we'll catch up with you, Father!


Awwwww I want a thread as long as Fiddleback's : pouty smilie :

Viki

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starbelly
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quote:
Originally posted by sarkycow:

Awwwww I want a thread as long as Fiddleback's : pouty smilie :

Viki


Thats just vanity.

Neil

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duchess

Ship's Blue Blooded Lady
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Does anybody remember the news bit about Robert Novak, a pet-store owner who sued a community Web site last year? Somebody made the mistake of putting his particular petstore into a discussion on the net so Robert Novak decided to sue. If you want more details
link here

[fixed horizontal scroll]

[Mad]

[ 24. November 2002, 05:23: Message edited by: RuthW ]

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Kelly Alves

Bunny with an axe
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(as if y'all haven't enough to do already...)
(and I'm sure someone's already thought of this...)
Has anyone ever thought of writing a Book of Fools? This thread is fascinating, as are the archived histories.
Plus...Y'know..income...(cough,cough)

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jlg

What is this place?
Why am I here?
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duchess has brought up an example of just the sort of thing the admins and hosts have to worry about.

Kelly, you are a mind-reader. Go to this link in Styx"Looking for board junkies" and you will find a project underway.


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Kelly Alves

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Is that so! Was wondering what that was about!

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FatMac

Ship's Macintosh
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It was great to read this thread and get some background on SoF. (Thanks Eutychus!)

I had one question if I may. I'm fascinated to know what the following involves. Erin?

quote:
Originally posted by Erin:
I spend a lot of time in trend analysis, too, to see if we're headed in the right direction and what the next step in our evolution should be.



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Chorister

Completely Frocked
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Erin is going to buy a pair of hot pants, kinky boots a Mary Quant cape and a crocodile handbag? [Eek!]

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Willyburger

Ship's barber
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An alligator carrying a crocodile handbag is a forward step in evolution? [Eek!]

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Erin
Meaner than Godzilla
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You should have asked me this before, when I was still in charge. Now I just sit back and give the admins a hard time. [Smile]

Seriously... just making sure the boards are on the right track, that we're not in danger of losing sight of what we're about. Every now and then I would have to freak out and start shutting down threads left and right. About a year ago -- before T&T! -- suddenly threads about people's sexual habits were EVERYWHERE, to the extent where Simon and I began to wonder if somehow we'd slipped into a coma and the Ship had converted to an adult site while we were out of it. So I had to put the brakes on (lots of bitching, but that's par for the course).

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RuthW

liberal "peace first" hankie squeezer
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quote:
Originally posted by Erin:
You should have asked me this before, when I was still in charge. Now I just sit back and give the admins a hard time. [Smile]

Six freakin' months since she roped other people into doing this and she's still gloating.
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KenWritez
Shipmate
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I enjoyed reading about the history of the Ship; fascinating stuff. If I was wearing a hat, I'd take it off to you, Simon and Erin, and to all the hosts, admins and support staff who make the SoF possible.

Having begun and then abruptly broken off a relationship with a woman who somewhat resembled Joanne, I certainly understand and sympathize with the reactions against her.

A few questions for you, Simon and Erin: Where is the Ship headed? What developments do you both foresee in her in the next year or three? What are you both most proud of concerning the Ship?

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chukovsky

Ship's toddler
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quote:
Originally posted by kenwritez:
Having begun and then abruptly broken off a relationship with a woman who somewhat resembled Joanne, I certainly understand and sympathize with the reactions against her.

[Confused] [Confused] [Confused]

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Ancient Mariner*
SOF Co-editor
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quote:
Originally posted by kenwritez:
A few questions for you, Simon and Erin: Where is the Ship headed? What developments do you both foresee in her in the next year or three? What are you both most proud of concerning the Ship?

Ken, we've been growing something in the dark here for the past six months that is going to steer the ship into some very entertaining and highly original waters in 2003.

Suffice to say at this stage that it is highly interactive, very shipmate orientated - and that nothing like it has been attempted in the mainstream/secular or religious world before.

We hope to do a pre-launch of this project before Christmas - so keep [Eek!]

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Moo

Ship's tough old bird
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quote:
Ken, we've been growing something in the dark here for the past six months that is going to steer the ship into some very entertaining and highly original waters in 2003.
Many things that grow in the dark are not very nice to be around. [Help]

Are you sure you know what you're doing?

Moo

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da_musicman
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by Ancient Mariner:
quote:
Originally posted by kenwritez:
A few questions for you, Simon and Erin: Where is the Ship headed? What developments do you both foresee in her in the next year or three? What are you both most proud of concerning the Ship?

Ken, we've been growing something in the dark here for the past six months that is going to steer the ship into some very entertaining and highly original waters in 2003.

Suffice to say at this stage that it is highly interactive, very shipmate orientated - and that nothing like it has been attempted in the mainstream/secular or religious world before.

We hope to do a pre-launch of this project before Christmas - so keep [Eek!]

I'm intrigued.
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Sarkycow
La belle Dame sans merci
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AM's been growing magic mushrooms again...

Viki

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JoyfulNoise & Parrot OKief

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Oh good - I've just noticed I've run out.

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Chorister

Completely Frocked
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How exciting - I can't wait to see what it is. An adopt a baby mole project, perhaps? [Cool]

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Chapelhead*

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quote:
Originally posted by Ancient Mariner:
Suffice to say at this stage that it is highly interactive, very shipmate orientated - and that nothing like it has been attempted in the mainstream/secular or religious world before.

We hope to do a pre-launch of this project before Christmas - so keep [Eek!]

I'm [Eek!] , I'm very [Eek!] .

Can't wait.

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strathclydezero

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I can.

There are other things I can't wait for ...

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Dave Walker

Contributing Editor
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quote:
strathclydezero:
There are other things I can't wait for ...

Well you'll just have to. We can only afford one cubicle and there's certainly no budget for a cleaner.

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ChrisT

One of the Good Guys™
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Good point W, and SCZ please wait in line like everyone else.

I want to come back to a couple of earlier points. Firstly the ShipMate number thing *coughs politely, hoping people will notice his very impressive 62*

And secondly this, as posted by Erin about 8 months ago or something...

quote:
the only people still left from that first month or so on the boards are me, David Rayner, Steve T, Dyfrig, Chris, rachel (not rachel_o, the rachel who had Sven in Minnesota), DP, rosemary and Fudge. (Apologies if I left anyone out.)
Is that Chris me? Was I part of the Original 250 who paid up? Have I been around that long? I wish I had taken more of an active role back then now, I seem to have missed out on the Hurricane and probably several other interesting goings on... oh well.

Very interesting reading though, I salute all you who lead this Ship so magnificently.

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brodavid
Shipmate
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Fascinating history. It has given me some appreciation for what all you early shipmates did to get the Ship going and keep it afloat. Personally, I want to know how the Ungodly Fear board came about, since that was what sucked me into the boards and community.

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Simon

Editor
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Hi brodavid... How did the Ungodly Fear board come about? We were planning to run a few extracts from Stephen Parsons' book of the same name, and it struck us that rather than just give the author's text, we might be able to generate a lot of useful debate if we linked it to a dedicated bulletin board. It worked a treat, as you know.

I've been on the lookout ever since for another book which might be worth giving the same treatment to, but haven't yet found anything to equal UF's documentary, cover-blowing approach. Glad you found us through the UF board. It's still online, in our archive, at this address.

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ej
Shipmate
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*sitting here feeling respect levels increasing regarding rest of team, and feeling somewhat humbled and envious of the long-termers*

I'll admit to some dubiosity around SOF when i first arrived when things got ugly around the 'secret boards' thingy... But having stuck with it I'm glad I did... and having just perused another board yesterday for chuckles, I realise how important and developed and mature this place is... The journey it's taken has clearly brought it in the right direction... Here's hoping (actually, I'm sure that it will) that continues in the future.

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...a little breathing-space...

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Yo-Yo
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quote:
Originally posted by ej:
*sitting here feeling respect levels increasing regarding rest of team, and feeling somewhat humbled and envious of the long-termers*

I just wanted to echo EJ here. Thanks to Simon, Erin and all the other responsible parties for building an online christian community where I feel so welcome. [Not worthy!]

Is the print version of the Ship still published?

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Wood
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The print version of the Ship went the way of the Titanic about twenty years ago.

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Narcissism.

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Sarkycow
La belle Dame sans merci
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quote:
Originally posted by Wood:
The print version of the Ship went the way of the Titanic about twenty years ago.

It hit an iceberg cause Simon had his eyes on something else?

And who were acting Leo and Kate?

[Big Grin]

Viki

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Rev per Minute
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quote:
Originally posted by sarkycow:
quote:
Originally posted by Wood:
The print version of the Ship went the way of the Titanic about twenty years ago.

It hit an iceberg cause Simon had his eyes on something else?

And who were acting Leo and Kate?

[Big Grin]

Viki

Wood and Britney? [Big Grin]

(Sorry Wood, couldn't resist this on a 'history' thread)

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