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Source: (consider it) Thread: FAQs - History of the Ship
Chorister

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Miss Monica was one of the first links I ever clicked on from the Ship. Hmmmmm, this is no ordinary Christian website, I thought......

I have been proved right time and time again [Big Grin]

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Ham'n'Eggs

Ship's Pig
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Any chance of some actual history please?

Like a quick summary of Miss Monica's Ship career. Or is that too much to ask?

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ChrisT

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Miss Monica scared me. And was rude to me. At the time I thought that Not Very Christian™, but now I'm worse than that a lot of the time.

I can see why Hell was started with her in mind. Her Monkeyboy must have balls of steel - either that or she pays very well.

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Alliebellie
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quote:
Originally posted by Chorister:
As a teacher I am very envious of people who can access the Ship at work - in my job you have to spend all your time with the kids, and even admin work has to be done out of hours. If you don't have an assistant, you can't even go to the loo when you want! (so I work part-time, to get the best of both worlds)

Mind you, in teaching, it often seems like you are on a real-life, permanent Ship of Fools! you never know what's going to happen next...... [Yipee]

I agree with all of the above. Specially the last bit!!!! Just posting to boast, really.. my classroom has just been networked, and I snuck a sneak peek at the ship while my class did a test yesterday....!!!!!

It's been REALLY interesting reading all of this. Wouldn't have bothered, for quite some time probably, if MM in 'that' hell-thread hadn't mentioned it in derogatory terms. I think there is NOTHING self aggrandising on this thread at all, posted by or on behalf of Erin or any other of the exalted ones. And I've learnt a lot. Enough to know that this is a place I like to be, and feel comfortable in already. (so, what was that story about the frogs in the pot, again??)

Thanks to all who contribute, moderate, host and edit:)
(and anyone else I may have left out)

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Janine

The Endless Simmer
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Ya left out the lurkers. [Big Grin]

The MM link doesn't work for me.
Erin, is it too old or somethin'?

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Alliebellie
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by Janine:
Ya left out the lurkers. [Big Grin]

The MM link doesn't work for me.
Erin, is it too old or somethin'?

Hehe!! bloody lurkers should go get registered!!!
That's weird about the MM link, cos it was working for me about an hour ago!

What wasn't working, tho, were all the links on the first couple of pages of this thread. Especially the ones that started with cargo.ship..... I'm guessing they've all been well and truly buried and no longer cluttering up cyberspace

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Jack the Lass

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quote:
Originally posted by kenwritez way back on page 2:
A few questions for you, Simon and Erin: Where is the Ship headed? What developments do you both foresee in her in the next year or three?

Ancient Mariner replied to this at the time outlining what we now know is the Ark. But, great though the Ark is, and no doubt there'll be other bigger, even better projects in time, I'd be interested to know where you all see the ship more generally going, rather than (or as well as) the specific one-off projects. Thanks [Smile]

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I can only speak to the community/boards side of things, but... I am heading up a couple of projects that I'm not quite ready to announce yet, but we're really excited about. Of course, the Ark has consumed ever-increasing quantities of time from us since last winter, so they've been put on hold until after this is over.

The Ark itself isn't necessarily a one-off project, either. Will we do this again? Maybe, maybe not in its current state. The Ark has been quite the learning and growing experience for us -- we've broken some significant ground on the Internet, and we'd really like to continue exploring new ideas and opportunities. But after we've all recovered from this, there are many, many things we can take from it and move forward.

It is just the beginning. [Smile]

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Janine

The Endless Simmer
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I suggest renting the Ark out for therapy sessions.

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Chorister

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What will happen to the Ark once the 40 days are up - will it just sit there, blank? will it sink without trace? will we just get an error message when we try to access it, or what?

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KenWritez
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OK, so I'm trying to get a feel for where the Ship is sailing. Where do the Simon, Erin, RuthW and the other Admins see the Ship in a year, two, three?

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Laura
General nuisance
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quote:
Originally posted by Kenwritez:
OK, so I'm trying to get a feel for where the Ship is sailing. Where do the Simon, Erin, RuthW and the other Admins see the Ship in a year, two, three?

Gee, I'm "other Admins", even though I've been here forever. [Disappointed]

Personally, I see the ship in the British Virgin Islands. Tortola, say.

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Ariel
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quote:
Originally posted by Laura:

Personally, I see the ship in the British Virgin Islands. Tortola, say.

I once started a game in Heaven where shipmates had to post in order of longitude, just to see if we could really span the globe. We sailed west as I recall, via Exeter and Ireland, right through Colorado and all the other places that don't have coastlines, and got becalmed in Japan and never left it. I don't think the Virgin Islands ever featured on our route.
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jlg

What is this place?
Why am I here?
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I remember that thread! The problem was that westward folks jumped in too quickly. About 48 hours after it started, the poor Ship was already leaping across the US and preparing to splash into the Pacific. I was planning a nice little detour north from Boston and/or New York and suddenly the Ship was sailing the Great Plains!

Hmmmmm. I think I have an idea for a more structured version.

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Ariel
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Go for it. I was just wondering about reviving it but decided I couldn't be bothered.

And I don't think you are going to find Sheep 3. [Devil]

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Blue Scarfed Menace
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quote:
Originally posted by Kenwritez:
OK, so I'm trying to get a feel for where the Ship is sailing. Where do the Simon, Erin, RuthW and the other Admins see the Ship in a year, two, three?

September 2003 - new poster arrives. Within 6 posts she has offended thirteen racial minorities, the gay community and Wood. Four days are lost to the ensuing arguments. 27 Heaven regulars threaten to leave because of the heartache involvde. pyx_e insults Nightlamp.

February 2004 - Simon asks for money

May 2004 - apprentice starts "Mornington Crescent" game in Heaven.

January 2005 - further changes to board software mean Ship is down for two weeks

February 2005 - Ship goes back on line. Fiddleback starts thread in Styx complaining about how things were better befoer the change. His fourteen multiple posts of the same message have to be manually removed because he has managed to crash the system.

August 2005 - Simon asks for money

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Chorister

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nothing new there then [Roll Eyes] [Wink]

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Pyx_e

Quixotic Tilter
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Am I that predictable ?

P

(no points for the obvious "yes" answer)

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Gill H

Shipmate
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Just wondered if a good title for the history of the ship would be 'All Gas And Gators'?

[Razz]

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Sparrow
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practising the url thing

BBC

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Sparrow
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Well it didn't work that time. Let's try again.

BBC

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Sparrow
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Oops, wrong thread. I thought I was in the "practise your code" thread. That's what comes of trying to surf furtively in an open plan office with people looking over your shoulder to see what you're doing!

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Wood
The Milkman of Human Kindness
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quote:
Originally posted by ChrisT:
Miss Monica scared me. And was rude to me. At the time I thought that Not Very Christian™, but now I'm worse than that a lot of the time.

I can see why Hell was started with her in mind. Her Monkeyboy must have balls of steel - either that or she pays very well.

Both, actually.

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jlg

What is this place?
Why am I here?
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Checked this thread to get some dates right and figured it wouldn't hurt to bump it up so the apprentices had a chance to trip over it. [Big Grin]
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Amazing Grace*

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quote:
Originally posted by jlg:
Checked this thread to get some dates right and figured it wouldn't hurt to bump it up so the apprentices had a chance to trip over it. [Big Grin]

Thanks, I was sort of looking for it the other day and was about to make that Helpful Suggestion ... it was very informative to me.

Charlotte (aka Amazing Grace)

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dorcas

Ship's florist
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Originally posted by jlg:
Checked this thread to get some dates right and figured it wouldn't hurt to bump it up so the apprentices had a chance to trip over it.

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Thank you!
Very interesting!
[Wink]

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mrs whibley
Shipmate
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Thank-you!

Tripped over, banged nose and now have to rush to church clutching hankie! [Ultra confused]

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RuthW

liberal "peace first" hankie squeezer
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Yikes. Sorry about that, mrs whibley! You can have my hanky if you need another - though it's rather wrinkled from all the squeezing.

Glad you've found the Styx. Have a look around at the Ship's commandments, the FAQs, the guidelines for each board, and enjoy your stay aboard the Ship of Fools.

RuthW
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Amazing Grace*

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Posting to bump this thread up. The newbies are no longer coming fast (and often furious [Roll Eyes] ) but people should be able to find this easily.

Charlotte (aka Amazing Grace)

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jlg

What is this place?
Why am I here?
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You could rename yourself "Amazing Grace (Ship's History Thread Bumper)". [Big Grin]
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Sprocket
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[Not worthy!] Of all the people who run this ship! [Not worthy!]

I've just had a fantastic read of SOF's history and trials and tribulations and am glad to be a part of it! [Yipee]

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Amazing Grace*

Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by jlg:
You could rename yourself "Amazing Grace (Ship's History Thread Bumper)". [Big Grin]

Ya know, there really should be a "Raspberry" smilie [Razz] (this one ain't enough for what I'm feelin' here).

I have to say I did wonder about all the posts that just said "*bump*". I wondered, did I need some kind of sooper seekrit shipmate or hostly powers to do this. Was there a BUMP button I wasn't aware of? But no, I just need to find the thread and make a post.

(where's the "D'OH" smilie when I need it... I think I'm getting the hang of these UBB thingies ...)

Charlotte (aka Amazing Grace)

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Amazing Grace*

Shipmate
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bump, bump, let's all do the bump ...

is the "future history of the ship" thread still in heaven or did it get moved?

Charlotte (aka Amazing Grace)

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RuthW

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As it is truly a deserving thread, it's been moved to Limbo - where it is filed under "Heaven."
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pepper

Ship's doubloon
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quote:
Originally posted by Erin:
Usually only between 5 and 10 percent of the membership are active at any given time. Some register to specifically comment on an article, some are lurkers and post very rarely.

I was interested to learn this. Could you tell us what the increase in membership numbers has been like over the past couple of years? Has the growth been continuously exponential?

What about the percentage of active members - is it still the same? Does it fluctuate significantly according to different ship events (eg. the Ark) or media exposure?

Thanks!

pepper

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Jonah the Whale

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Shipmate #1000 joined in July 2001
Shipmate #2000 joined in December 2001
Shipmate #3000 joined in July 2002
Shipmate #4000 joined in January 2003
Shipmate #5000 joined in September 2003

So it's a roughly linear increase, about 1000 new shipmates every seven months or so. Hmm, what are you going to do with this info now? Plot how to win the member 6000 sweepstake?

JtW.

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pepper

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Curses!
Rumbled. [Waterworks]

No, honestly, I just wanted to know. I like to lick on the ice cream of trend analysis.

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Amazing Grace*

Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by RuthW:
As it is truly a deserving thread, it's been moved to Limbo - where it is filed under "Heaven."

Thank you Ruth.

Posting on this thread to bring it to the attention of those new to the Ship. I seem to be a bit silly about linking to threads now (must go practice UBB) but I would like to draw people's attention to another truly deserving thread in Limbo, the "Fields of Gold" thread. Should be near the top. It was one of the reasons I decided to stick around.

Charlotte (aka Amazing Grace)

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Melon

Ship's desserter
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To make the above figures useful, we would also need to know how many people leave, or just stop partipating...

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Emma Louise

Storm in a teapot
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Did the ark bring new members? Have many stayed?
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Amazing Grace*

Shipmate
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*BUMP* so the new folks can see this

Charlotte

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Chorister

Completely Frocked
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Reading through this again, I can't seem to find details of when the ship had to go in for maintenance and was closed for 2 weeks (although HoosierNan did kindly provide a lifeboat for those who couldn't swim). It was during this time that I discovered the Wibsite (which has a bulletin board in a similar format to the way Ship of Fools used to be, but much dafter of course [Yipee] ).

Please remind me what actually was done during that time to improve the boards - I'm having trouble remembering what was new and what was there before.

There was also a board called 'Urban Myths' for a while......

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Moo

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quote:
Originally posted by Chorister:
Please remind me what actually was done during that time to improve the boards - I'm having trouble remembering what was new and what was there before.

I think that's when we acquired 'Preview Post' and the arrow that will jump you to the most recent posts on each thread.

Moo

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Scarlet

Mellon Collie
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quote:
Originally posted by Moo:
quote:
Originally posted by Chorister:
Please remind me what actually was done during that time to improve the boards - I'm having trouble remembering what was new and what was there before.

I think that's when we acquired 'Preview Post' and the arrow that will jump you to the most recent posts on each thread.

Best of all, this was when we gained the ability to have avatars and personalized Shipmate titles.

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Chorister

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oh yes, of course - I forgot the avatars were as recent as that! seems like they've been there for ever..... how would we manage without them now? How would we know what everyone looks like, for a start [Biased] [Big Grin]

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Never Conforming

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Well, you certainly look like your avatar, chorister!

Jo

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Talitha
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A meta-History of the Ship question: why did the guy who started this thread get banned? His posts on this thread seem pretty innocuous - did he go on to do something unforgiveable later?

Also - where did the name Ship of Fools originally come from?

(Oo, I like this thread.)

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Simon

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Hi Talitha. The first instance I know of the name Ship of Fools is in a 15th-century allegorical poem by Sebastian Brant, who set his drama on a ship crewed by all the fools of the world. Here are the relevant lines from the poem's prologue...

I have pondered how a ship
Of fools I'd suitably equip -
A galley, brig, bark, skiff, or float,
A carack, scow, dredge, racing boat,
A sled, cart, barrow, carryall -
One vessel would be far too small
To carry all the fools I know...

This site got the name Ship of Fools from a different source, though.

When I was a theology student, I was in the library one day reading a biography of the theologian Karl Barth (like you do) and came across a letter he wrote to a friend. The two of them were planning to launch a journal and the friend had suggested giving it the name, "The Word of God". Barth thought this was a bit over the top and replied: "better to call it 'The Ship of Fools' than burden it with this sacred millstone!"

I looked at that and immediately thought: that's the name of the magazine I want to edit! Ancient Mariner and I launched Ship of Fools as a print magazine a year later, and it floated onto the internet in autumn 1997.

For me, the Ship of Fools name has always been linked with Noah's Ark and the disciples of Jesus in their boat in the storm on Galilee. Both Noah and the disciples were fools in a boat, and yet they proved to be wise, and the world foolish. And I've thought of Paul's words in 1 Corinthians: "God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong."

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Erin
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quote:
Originally posted by Talitha:
A meta-History of the Ship question: why did the guy who started this thread get banned? His posts on this thread seem pretty innocuous - did he go on to do something unforgiveable later?

This is not the only thread that he posted to. He was warned and suspended on more than one occasion for some pretty rude and blatant racist crap.

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Tori
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As a new member of this ship I have found this thread really informative about the ethos of the ship. I have to admit that I got frustrated when my first thread was closed down after being opened a few days, but I think I understand why now. Just wanted to say I appreciate all the hard work you all put in, and am looking forward to being more integrated into the ship in the future.

Victoria

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