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tomb
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon:
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For me, the Ship of Fools name has always been linked with Noah's Ark and the disciples of Jesus in their boat in the storm on Galilee. Both Noah and the disciples were fools in a boat, and yet they proved to be wise, and the world foolish. And I've thought of Paul's words in 1 Corinthians: "God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong."

Well, I am surprised. I always assumed that the name was taken from the 1965 film written by Abbey Mann and directed by Stanley Kramer starring Vivian Leigh that won the Academy Award for cinematography and was the inspiration for the Grateful Dead song. A precis of it by a popular author summarized the movie, "in which everyone who didn't die went mad."

You mean to say that, after all these years, I've been mucking about on a website based on the Bible?

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sharkshooter

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quote:
Originally posted by tomb:


You mean to say that, after all these years, I've been mucking about on a website based on the Bible?

So, you didn't think this was a Christian website?

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jlg

What is this place?
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For me, "Ship of Fools" always brings to mind the novel by Katherine Ann Porter. Not that I remember a single thing about the novel except the title, since I read it when I was ten or so.
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quote:
Originally posted by Tori:
[....]I appreciate all the hard work you all put in, and am looking forward to being more integrated into the ship in the future.

Victoria

[Overused] [Overused] [Overused]

I think you'll find, Tori, that the proper phrase isn't "integrated into" but rather "addicted to" the Ship.

Welcome to the Ship. [Devil]

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quote:
Originally posted by tomb:
Well, I am surprised. I always assumed that the name was taken from the 1965 film written by Abbey Mann and directed by Stanley Kramer starring Vivian Leigh that won the Academy Award for cinematography and was the inspiration for the Grateful Dead song. A precis of it by a popular author summarized the movie, "in which everyone who didn't die went mad."

That wouldn't happen to be based on the book by Katherine Porter, by any chance? I do own the book, I just haven't got round to reading it yet, and am now being very lazy, clearly.

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Paul W.

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According to the IMDB info for this film, it is based on that novel. Maybe you should read it and find out if there are any similarities with this site? [Big Grin]

Paul W

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The synopses sound uncannily familiar:

quote:
Passengers on a ship [...] represent society at large in that era. [...] La Contessa[...] A young American woman [...] David [...] [...]sleazy dance troupes and bitter lovers [...]


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Brilliant thread guys...thanks!
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quote:
Originally posted by Arrietty:
The synopses sound uncannily familiar:

quote:
Passengers on a ship [...] represent society at large in that era. [...] La Contessa[...] A young American woman [...] David [...] [...]sleazy dance troupes and bitter lovers [...]

Wanna hear something cool?

About the time "Calling God to Hell" was running,I caught the 1965 movie. About 3/4ths of the way thought the movie, there is a riot in steerage. A priest is sent down to talk sternly to the crew below deck. He exhorts the ringleader to be a Godly man. The ringleader goes on a tirade about how God is meaningless to him and if God were standing before him, he would send him to Hell. Then he and the crew trash steerage.

I thought,"Wow. Simon is a prophet."

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quote:
Originally posted by Arrietty:
The synopses sound uncannily familiar:

quote:
Passengers on a ship [...] represent society at large in that era. [...] La Contessa[...] A young American woman [...] David [...] [...]sleazy dance troupes and bitter lovers [...]

All that's missing is an Orthodox priest

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I had a children's anthology free in my breakfast cereal, with a story in it called 'Ship of Fools' by Terry Jones. On board is chaos and everyone in the story is a total fruitcake. Yup, that sounds familiar...... [Big Grin]

Here are the opening few sentences:

"A young boy named Ben once ran away to sea. But the ship he joined was a very odd one indeed.
The Captain always wore his trousers tied over his head with seaweed. The Bosun danced the hornpipe all day long from dawn to dusk wearing nothing but beetroot juice. And the First Mate kept six families of mice down the neck of his jumper!
'This is a rum vessel, me hearty!', said Ben to one of the sailors, who was at that moment about to put his head into the ship's barrel of syrup.
'It's a Ship of Fools!' grinned the sailor, and he stuck his head in the syrup."

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NO
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[busybody]

I hope no-one will think me too presumptuous if I just B-U-M-P this excellent thread up to the top - we have had some new people just recently who could benefit a lot from reading this.

(Seriously, I'm not thinking of any one person in particular, several names spring to mind)

[/busybody]

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Orb

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Top thread. I was alarmed to read there were only 318 people registered who had made Shipmate status in 2002!! [Eek!] How many are there now?! [Confused]

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Belisarius
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Within this past minute, 1,041.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ophthalmos:
I was alarmed to read there were only 318 people registered who had made Shipmate status in 2002!!

You have to remember that we got new software in the spring of 2001. Up until that time there were no such categories as 'shipmate' and 'apprentice'.

Some old-timers who were infrequent posters had not made fifty posts by the beginning of 2002.

Moo

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Late Quartet

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quote:
Originally posted by Belisarius:
Within this past minute, 1,041.

I'd be interested to know one more thing about those who have become Shipmates, if its easy enough to find out, please. Of 8,000 registrations 1041 have made Shipmate status. Of those 1041 shipmates how many of them have posted in the last 10, 20, 30 and 40 months?

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MaryFL
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Well... not everyone is a compulsive poster, I guess. [Biased]

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Belisarius
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The UBB Boards have not yet been here 40 months, but to give an idea of stats as of this morning:

1,042 registrations have achieved Shipmate status.

987 of these have had posts since 01/01/02.

956 of these have had posts since 07/01/02.

865 of these have had posts since 01/01/03.

790 of these have had posts since 07/01/03.

705 of these have had posts since 01/01/04.

539 of these have had posts since 07/01/04.

270 of these have had posts since 07/21/04.

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Andrew Knoll

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MrPiccolo

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quote:
Originally posted by Late Quartet:
quote:
Originally posted by Belisarius:
Within this past minute, 1,041.

I'd be interested to know one more thing about those who have become Shipmates, if its easy enough to find out, please. Of 8,000 registrations 1041 have made Shipmate status. Of those 1041 shipmates how many of them have posted in the last 10, 20, 30 and 40 months?
Jem, IIRC Yahweh had a lot to say when King David came up with the plan of taking a census of "his" armies.. [Eek!] [Confused] [Biased]

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Blancmange
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I notice that there are nearly 200 pages of people in the directory who never posted after registering, are these people all living in the cafe? Or did they just register for fun?
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Marvin the Martian

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quote:
Originally posted by Belisarius:
539 of these have had posts since 07/01/04.

So basically, over half of all shipmates have posted this month (July 04).

Not bad.

[but my code was [Roll Eyes] ]

[ 23. July 2004, 15:20: Message edited by: Marvin the Martian ]

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Goodric

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Dear Blancmange,

When you are a Newby (like me) then sometimes it is difficult to pluck up courage and join in the discussion.

All sorts of issues hit your mind just as you are about to put fingers to keyboard. Am I using the right protocol? Isn't it a bit rude to jump in un-introduced? Will they detect my halitosis over the internet.

I think many people would have the intention of communicating, but then at the last minute, through lack of confidence - they bottle out. This may account for some of those who are registered but not participating.

I on the other hand am just one of those idiots who despite not knowing the rules and protocol, and having never done anything like this before - just says "to hell with it" and gets stuck in. You can imagine it gets me into all sorts of trouble.

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Dave P

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Welcome to the Ship Goodric. Glad to have you aboard.

quote:
Originally posted by Goodric:
I on the other hand am just one of those idiots who despite not knowing the rules and protocol

You can find the rules under the name 10 Commandments, and the Protocols for the Boards at the top of each one. I'd recommend reading them, they're not P. G. Wodehouse but will certainly stand you in good stead.

Enjoy!

HS

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Cartmel Veteran
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quote:
Originally posted by tomb:
I always assumed that the name was taken from the 1965 film written by Abbey Mann and directed by Stanley Kramer starring Vivian Leigh that won the Academy Award for cinematography and was the inspiration for the Grateful Dead song. A precis of it by a popular author summarized the movie, "in which everyone who didn't die went mad."

I often think of that movie when I see the phrase Ship of Fools, but for different reasons. There's a scene in the book 2061 by Arthur C. Clarke, where a film star onboard a marooned spaceship with other artistic noteworthies discusses the movie.

[ 23. July 2004, 17:53: Message edited by: Inspector Hovis ]

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Late Quartet

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Thank you Belisarius.
quote:
Originally posted by Belisarius:
The UBB Boards have not yet been here 40 months, but to give an idea of stats as of this morning:
1,042 registrations have achieved Shipmate status.
987 of these have had posts since 01/01/02.
956 of these have had posts since 07/01/02.
865 of these have had posts since 01/01/03.
790 of these have had posts since 07/01/03.
705 of these have had posts since 01/01/04.

That look pretty impressive: 70 per cent of shipmates have posted in the last 6 months or so.

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539 of these have had posts since 07/01/04.
270 of these have had posts since 07/21/04.

I'm even more impressed that over half have posted in the last 4 weeks, and more than 25 per cent in the last two days -- that is quite stunning.

[ 24. July 2004, 04:41: Message edited by: Late Quartet ]

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Goldfish Stew
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Great thread,

Now I'm wondering about fiddleback who popped in on page 2, apparently unregistered. How'd that work?

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Pyx_e

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Oh My Gawd! [Eek!]

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John Donne

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Adjusts Nana Mouskouri style glasses:

This is a song about a boy... and a girl... and... love.

[Sex of protagonists should not be inferred from this statement]

[ 24. July 2004, 12:53: Message edited by: Coot (Such a nice boy) ]

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Goodric

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Thanks Holy Stone, they seem to make common sense and hopefully most reasonable people would adhere to them. Ploughing my way through the FAQ's was helpful too. For those who may prefer disorganised religion, this seems really, really organised. Not quite up to the EEC regulations on Cucumber shape and size though... I think I may enjoy this. I like church of fools as well -brilliant idea. How much does it cost to keep an operation like this on the road? - or is that information somewhere on the site but I havn't found it yet? Am I allowed to ask that one - or ask it here? Can't you just tell I'm new at this?

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jlg

What is this place?
Why am I here?
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I don't know if there's ever been a financial report, but it does cost money to keep the site going. Click on Organ Fund if you want to make a contribution.
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pirate sunny
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quote:
Originally posted by Erin (a long time ago):
<snip>
How about we do it like this: y'all ask questions about things that you don't understand or are curious about. Could be anything from what is perceived to be an inside joke <snip>

I was wondering if that offer still stood. If I asked about ice cream forks, would I get an answer? Or would I be laughed at? Or am I just imagining that there’s a joke going around about ice cream forks anyway?

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Grits
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pirate sunny, I would never be able to remember the thread now, but apparently the talk got onto utensils, very special utensils. We have some Shipmates who are just swimming in refinement, and one happened to mention he possessed ice cream forks.

Well, people went absolutely mad over this: "What are they?" "Why do you have them?" "Do you really use them?" "Are they silver?" It was a hilarious mixture of fascination, incredulity and admiration.

I don't think folks will ever let him forget the forks. Or his rug burns...

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Kelly Alves

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The original rug burn joke can be found in Limbo, on the archived Hell thread, "An Experince in Small Group Formation"

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Koovie
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I've read the whole thread and found it fascinating.

I give my thanks to the hosts, admins and other people who keep the Ship afloat on a daily basis. Without you, well, I'd probably get a lot more sleep! [Biased]

Oh, and while I'm here...let's give the thread a BUMP for the apprentices who haven't had the opportunity to read this magificient thread yet.

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Duo Seraphim*
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quote:
Originally posted by Grits:
pirate sunny, I would never be able to remember the thread now, but apparently the talk got onto utensils, very special utensils. We have some Shipmates who are just swimming in refinement, and one happened to mention he possessed ice cream forks.

Well, people went absolutely mad over this: "What are they?" "Why do you have them?" "Do you really use them?" "Are they silver?" It was a hilarious mixture of fascination, incredulity and admiration.

I don't think folks will ever let him forget the forks. Or his rug burns...

It was a Hell thread that featured a fascinating discussion about dinner party settings. The rug burns made their celebrated debut in the "small group experience" thread, also in Hell.

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Avalon
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Alright, I've read the small group one and found a table setting one;and I think Limbo will be the death of me.Any estimates on whether anyone embarking on reading their way through Limbo ever comes out again - and, if so, when?
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Gremlin
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Reading the whole of Limbo is something I'd leave to the obsessive... or the plain mad. Same goes for Dead Horses.

I've not heard of anyone successfully escaping with their wits... but there's always a first time. [Smile]

ETA: see you in a couple of years!

Gremlin

[ 14. September 2004, 12:45: Message edited by: Gremlin ]

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Ahhh...I see the screw-up fairy has visited us again...
Oh I get it... like humour... but different.

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pirate sunny
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quote:
Originally posted by Avalon:
Alright, I've read the small group one and found a table setting one;and I think Limbo will be the death of me.Any estimates on whether anyone embarking on reading their way through Limbo ever comes out again - and, if so, when?

When you do come out, don’t forget to read Beryl AND the nativity play AND The One True Holy Catholic Apostolic AND TnT………. [Two face]

See ya at Christmas

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Alan Cresswell

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Christmas??? So soon???

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dolphy

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[Killing me] More like Christmas 2008.

Seriously though, it is sometimes nice to read certain parts of certain threads in Limbo but if you do read it all and manage to come out in one piece, perhaps you should start a thread on 'things I learnt in Limbo'. [Two face]

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*punt*

because I can...

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The Milkman of Human Kindness
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Actually, you can't.

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Koovie
Ship's Supply Organist
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I can't? Oops. I'm sorry.
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Pyx_e

Quixotic Tilter
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Koovie, you can. He's just practising being "not nice."

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Alan Cresswell

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Well, obviously, you can ... it just takes a post saying "*punt*" or something similar to return a thread to the top of the list. It does seem a bit odd to do that, however, without a decent reason. Generally the prefered reasons for posting on a thread that's been inactive for a while is to add something substantive to that thread - some new information, a new question, or similar. Occasionally a thread gets *punted* because there's a good reason why people should be made aware it exists - someone mentions the subject on another thread, or it relates to a coming event (eg: a meet thread in AS).

That you have the capability to do something doesn't automatically make doing that the right thing to do.

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mousethief

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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
That you have the capability to do something doesn't automatically make doing that the right thing to do.

That almost sounds like something St. Paul would say.

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seasick

...over the edge
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*whistle* *whistle*

[kick]

*whistle*

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Sinistærial
Ship's Lefty
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quote:
Originally posted by Dyfrig [Posted 28 July, 2003]:

August 2005 - Simon asks for money

OMG! [Eek!]

They had the auctions board worked out that long ago!

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Triple Tiara

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[Killing me] [Killing me] [Killing me]

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Auntie Doris

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Great thread... it has taken me 401 posts to find it though!!

Auntie Doris x

[ 09. September 2005, 17:38: Message edited by: Auntie Doris ]

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