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leo
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I saw Max a month or so ago - he is incredibly grown up since the time he was banned. People change.
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I suppose that his growing up in at least some senses was inevitable. The fact that it may have occurred in others is also incredible.

[ 11. September 2011, 08:24: Message edited by: Gee D ]

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LeRoc

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Just another Ship history-related question. Although I'm not a very prolific poster, I was around at the first three Host&Admin days that were celebrated when Erin, Mousethief and Chorister (I guess in that order) hit 10.000 posts on the Ship.

I remember that these H&A days used to have themes relating to the poster we celebrated, and that we changed our screen names according to the theme (the Ship's software still allowed for name changes in those times). For example, with Mousethief we had an Orthodox theme, and I changed my name to LeRostov. Wich Chorister we had a musical theme, and I had something like LeRock'n'Roll.

I can't seem to remember very well: did we have a theme at the first H&A day, celebrated for Erin? Was it alligators or something like that? And did we change screen names for that day?

Thank you.

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Doublethink.
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I recall a ship awards ceremony - can't remember the year - is there still an active link to that board ?

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An die Freude
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Wouldst it be that ye be referring to this?

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Doublethink.
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Yes, ta muchly ...

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quote:
Originally posted by JFH:
Wouldst it be that ye be referring to this?

wow. fun. great memories. what a bunch of freaks we all are.

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Marvin the Martian

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quote:
Originally posted by LeRoc:
did we have a theme at the first H&A day, celebrated for Erin?

The fact that it was a H&A Day was the theme [Big Grin]

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Spike

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quote:
Originally posted by LeRoc:
Just another Ship history-related question. Although I'm not a very prolific poster, I was around at the first three Host&Admin days that were celebrated when Erin, Mousethief and Chorister (I guess in that order) hit 10.000 posts on the Ship.

I remember that these H&A days used to have themes relating to the poster we celebrated, and that we changed our screen names according to the theme (the Ship's software still allowed for name changes in those times). For example, with Mousethief we had an Orthodox theme, and I changed my name to LeRostov. Wich Chorister we had a musical theme, and I had something like LeRock'n'Roll.

I can't seem to remember very well: did we have a theme at the first H&A day, celebrated for Erin? Was it alligators or something like that? And did we change screen names for that day?

Thank you.

There wasn't a theme other than to allow the H&As to do whatever we wanted. The other "special" days for reaching 10000 posts (Chorister, Mousethief and ken) weren't H&A days as such, particularly as only one of those posters was a host anyway. They were just allowed to pick a theme for the day.

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LeRoc

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quote:
Spike: There wasn't a theme other than to allow the H&As to do whatever we wanted. The other "special" days for reaching 10000 posts (Chorister, Mousethief and ken) weren't H&A days as such, particularly as only one of those posters was a host anyway. They were just allowed to pick a theme for the day.
So, for Chorister, Mousethief and ken we didn't do the full H&A mayhem? That's not really how I remember them (but I can be wrong of course).

IIRC, Chorister's 10k were during Church of Fools, a time when the Ship got a large stream of new members. At that time, I remember one of the regulars complaining: "Is it a good idea to have all this mayhem with so many newcomers arriving? What image will they have of us?" (Said member was then told by Erin to lighten up, in her own, er... particular way [Biased] )

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Spike

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quote:
Originally posted by LeRoc:
So, for Chorister, Mousethief and ken we didn't do the full H&A mayhem? That's not really how I remember them (but I can be wrong of course).

Not as such. I think we may have had some "guest" hosts for the duration. A full blown H&A day means anything goes which includes random thread movement/closure, members being suspended on a whim, entire boards disappearing and, best of all, Marvin hosting All Saints. [Big Grin]

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LeRoc

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Hehe, I can't wait for the next H&A Day. (Although I guess they come when you least expect them. I'm sure there's something in the Bible about that [Biased] )

But if I may ask: what did we do during the theme days for mousethief, Chorister and Ken? I was there, but my memory isn't very detailed.

I remember that we had orthodox/musical/... name changes, and that we opened many threads with orthodox/musical/... themes. Or did we do more things than that?

And what was the theme for Ken's day? I'm not sure if I was around for that one.

I'm asking just out of curiosity, and to refresh my memory of these days, which were quite nice. But I guess it could be interesting for newer members as well, who weren't around at the time.

[Duplicate post deleted - T]

[ 15. November 2011, 10:48: Message edited by: Tubbs ]

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On the music theme day, we had musical name changes and the Chorry Awards - prizes of medals with foil covered chocolate in the centre. I can't remember what they were awarded for, though - perhaps a winner could post and remind us. It might have been poetry with a musical theme. Otherwise, I'm really struggling to remember now, it was a long time ago.

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Chorister

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Just googled it - this is the only reference I could find: Chorister's Groupies. It was back in the day when threads weren't automatically oblivionated, they could be deleted without trace. So I think the rest were lost. (Unless anyone with powers of greater detection than mine can find them.)

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I remember with Mousethief and Ken we were allowed (or encouraged if the facility had not been stopped by then) to change our names to something relevant to the theme of the day - Mousethief was Orthodoxy (with a side-order of circumcision IIRC - either then or on some other H&A day) and Ken was Roundhead 17th Century. There was much weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth when people found out they could not return to their screen names (unless they were the same as their log-in names) because the system hadn't released them and thought they were still in use.

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Marvin the Martian

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quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
and, best of all, Marvin hosting All Saints. [Big Grin]

Next time I will not be so forgiving.

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quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
and, best of all, Marvin hosting All Saints. [Big Grin]

Next time I will not be so forgiving.
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This wonderful thread had slipped to page 3. I thought it an opportune time to bump it back up by asking the question: How did the Hell board come about? And how (if it has) did it develop? I have formed the impression that it was the product of the unholy admin union of Erin (peace be upon her) and David.

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Hedgehog

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I was reviewing this thread earlier this morning, DK, for the same reason. Page 1 seems to have the most info about the development of the Boards. What I have gleaned (and more seasoned members please correct me) is as follows:

clare commented:

quote:
...the Shiptalk board started life as the letters page. In fact, the whole thing did, as far as I know when the ship first sailed the letters page started to take on a life of its own, which led to the bulletin board format, as being more discussion friendly.
A portion of the Boards started out life as a subscription service, as a way to keep away abusive posters (see the whole discussion on "Hurricane Joanne"). There were both pay boards and free boards Tubbs recalled:

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The subscription charges were introduced after the departure of the "Ten-Horned Beast of the Apocalypse" to ensure that nothing like that would ever happen again. The rational was, if I remember rightly, that paid access would act as a discouragement ...
Erin provided a link to something that was supposed to explain the whole subscription changes, but sadly the link no longer works.

clare continued (with some editing from me):

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When the boards became subscription the letters page was kept as a way for non paying readers to put up comments on the ship content.

* * * *

IIRC when the boards did the heaven/hell etc split this was renamed from the 'letters page' to 'shiptalk board'.. and in reality became a sort of parallel discussion comunity to the main boards - yeah... the skinflints! So when the boards went free again it made sense to integrate them all.

The split creating Heaven, Purgatory and Hell seems to have occurred around the same time as the subscription changes. On April 5, 2002, Alan Cresswell recalled:

quote:
This time last year, and for a while before that, there were two sets of boards running on the Ship. The main boards (Purgatory, Hell etc) you had to pay to contribute to. In addition, there were some additional free to post to boards; MW was one of these (it is somewhat unfair if people at a church that's been MW'd then have to pay a subscription to respond to the report), there was also a general discussion board (I've forgotten what we called it) where I reckon the intention was that people could try out the boards before subscribing.
With free registration on these new boards the division between free and subscriber boards became irrelevant. The old free general discussion board vanished into Purgatory.

Similarly, Schroedinger's cat wrote:

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I started on the old boards, and didn't quite get round to paying my subscription. But I only posted on Small Fire (which was free ), so I didn't feel a need to progress at that time.
IIRC, the deeper boards ( Heaven, hell and purg ) were subscription only, and the others ( MW, SF, UM? ) were free, because they benefitted from a wider audience participation.

None of this tells us WHO came up with the idea of the Heaven/Purg/Hell split, but the impression that I get is that the split came at the time that some of the boards were subscription based. I welcome any more seasoned shipmates to correct me if my reconstruction is wrong.

As a side point, could we possibly thumbtack this History thread to the front page of Limbo?It does provide a great service to new shipmates and it is rather a shame when it falls off the active page.

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monkeylizard

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You're correct about the paid vs. free and what went where. As a general rule, the boards dedicated to discussing items on the main Ship pages were free. So that would include MW, Small Fire, etc. Boards meant for general discussions of Christian Unrest were subscription. That's the way I remember it, but we're going back more than a decade now.

I had been reading the main Ship pages since within a month or two of its launch, but didn't register on the boards until a little while after the merger. The 3 main boards were already in place at that time to the best of my recollection. I don't recall a time w/o those 3 (Heaven, Purgatory, Hell).

With this crew, I'd say that the need for a way to keep discussions on track while still allowing the requisite name-calling became apparent rather quickly, even during subscription days. [Smile] The Hell board is one of the best ways I have seen this done on any web forum that has a need for that kind of seperation and containment.

[ 01. May 2012, 17:45: Message edited by: monkeylizard ]

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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This was a very interesting read. I'd not noticed the topic before. As a recent joiner here, I had no knowledge or acquaintance with some of the famous people. I joined after my ISP stopped carrying newsgroups, and another hosted board where I was first a mod (host in SOF parlance) then an admin with, had closed.

It would seem that that many of you are along the lines of 'original disciples' and 'gospel writers', and those, like myself, are only glimpsing small tidbits after the fact from mostly shadowy references, e.g., regarding admin person Erin. Many of you seem to me to be the gospel writers, have written the letters, or are sources for the written history. The newer of us have limited information outside of threads like this one and mention of how so-and-so would have responded to this or that.

To start on a board where much history is part of its culture, was intimidating and sometimes off putting. It is difficult to appreciate 'summer camp last summer' (and summers before) when you weren't at the camp last summer or earlier. It takes a little perseverance to weather through some of that, confronted with an in-crowd some of whom wish to ensure, it has seemed at times, that we know our places as newbies. I will be a newbie forever I should think, given late joining and no original knowledge of the saints or glorified members.

I understand, given the reading of the thread, the 'apocalypse beast' trouble, and developmental progressions. I suspect that with or without intention the ship will develop in new directions with new members, or perhaps that's hopeful arrogance (?). Finally, I wonder, what current statistics reflect in terms of numbers of active posters, active threads, etc., compare over some samples of time.

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Jengie jon

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As one of the more weatherbeaten members I can give some idea of some of the answers. In some ways as far as Erin is concerned, she was a person with clear boundaries. She stuck to them and was respected for doing that. I suspect this is one of the reasons why ever since I can recall there have been admin and hostly discussions that ordinary ship members were not included in. These have rarely been divulged on the ship.

Early days were more ephemeral than now and some things are gone for good. This is the second incarnation of the UBB boards since they became public. The older one did not have avatars or smillies irc. Threads could also only be ten pages long. There is nothing remaining of that board afaik as they were over-written in the upgrade. I like other shipmates were on those boards and just signed up automatically for these.

I think there may be something left of the Shiptalk, Small Fires, Mystery Worship and Godly Fear boards but I do not know for sure. Even so when these boards started there was a tendency to delete threads when they became old. Since then first Limbo and then Oblivion have been created.

Numbers on the ship peaked around 2004/5 I think both in terms of active members and people online at any time.

The early two thousands were also more into role play, not just the Nativity play but the Ark and such as well as party threads in Heaven where I was amazed at peoples creativity but I rarely posted in Heaven then because a lot of the current circus activity happened there. T&T also came and went.

The updating of the cafe caused a change. I believe the old cafe was fairly active, with a crowd often there, the current one is much quieter. People seemed to find other places to talk and that with the growth of Flickr, Facebook and Twitter have led to a more dispersed community as people who know each other from the ship keep in contact in other ways.

Is that useful?

Jengie

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Chorister

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A few of the old threads are available if you are interested enough to Google them.

As for no prophet's comments, if you wish to belong to an organisation enough, you will be willing to wade through the nostalgia and close friendships that have built up over the years and find a niche where you belong. Just like in real time churches. Stick it out for a while, and you'll be fine. [Smile]

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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That's good additional info. I have indeed weathered a few things and learned about the ship's culture. It was inordinately and surprisingly helpful to have essentially anonymous contributions toward some very difficult life evens, with radically kind people behind some of the rather odd ship-names.
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I've also found this thread helpful and very funny in places, some useful existing links that show how policies evolved.

I don't know about the similarities with joining a church community -- I haven't had that in real life for a while, but I do frequent another kind of forum where I feel at home after five or six years of accumulated history and friendships with regulars. It does take time to get the sense of belonging and acceptance.

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Thought this thread might be a useful bit of supplementary reading to the "This is a great place, seriously" thread currently hovering near the top of The Styx, so this is partly a bump...
...but it's also wondering if there ever will be a book about SoF's history, as mentioned by Kelly way way back in this thread. It'd be an interesting look at the development of a very successful online community, challenges to it along the way (Hurricane Joanne, Curious Buddhist, Cosmogate), the online community's reaction to bereavement (and this thread has a few people's posts on it who are now memorialised on the Glory board, which is always strange to read their posts now, still present in a conversation after their authors' death. A strange feeling, that), innovations over time (the different boards, especially the use of the Hell boards, the Ark, the CofF, St Pixels, and how it's now a pretty much entirely separate community), an interesting reflection of people discussing faith online, and how that's played out over the years, and might be a reflection of how the prevailing approach, and individual posters' opinions on some topics (various Dead Horses being the most obvious things) has changed (or not) over time.

It'd be a book that might be interesting to a lot of people - posters here, current and former, Christians, people with an interest in internet communities...

I wonder how much in the way of Organ Fund donations or something it would take for SoF to be able to maybe commission a writer or two to take it on, maybe with an initial consultation thread here on what people would be interested to know. There are people here whose jobs are word-smithery, research, number & statistic crunching... I'm sure they're all busy, but if we could pay them something they'd be the people to do it - with an understanding of the community and stuff.
Anyway, that's all just speculation. It'd be really interesting though, although has the potential to be pretty lengthy, but I'd be really interested to read it, and (if I ever get a job and earn money again, fingers crossed for the one I've just applied for), I'd be willing to chuck some cash into a pot.

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I suppose some of the threads in Dead Horses are old enough to show the development of attitudes a bit anyway, about their own topics - for example the ancient Homosexuality and Christianity thread , its 93 pages currently resident on page 3 of DH. (I actually read through that whole thread once. It got somewhat repetitive. That said, there are some great posts on it, Joan D-O-D, Arabella-P-W and Inanna - ?is that the right name? - particularly stick in my mind for some of their posts.)

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quote:
Originally posted by luvanddaisies:
It'd be an interesting look at the development of a very successful online community, challenges to it along the way (Hurricane Joanne, Curious Buddhist, Cosmogate),...

What is curious buddhist? Google is not my friend.

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Curiosity killed ...

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Curious Buddhist was a Shipmate who told a number of tragic stories and garnered a lot of sympathy. There were a number of supporting sock puppets feeding into the stories of sickness and car crashes - but the whole lot was later revealed as a version of Munchausen by internet.

Didn't Curious Buddhist return later as Unicycle? We had a whole prayer thread deleted to remove Unicycle's posts. And Shipmates became a lot more cynical

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The really bad thing about Curious Buddhist and her sockpuppets was that she kept telling very tragic stories about herself, seeking help and sympathy. Many shipmates responded, and when they learned it was all a fake, it was a massive letdown.

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If one performs the Google search "Curious Buddhist Ship of Fools" this link is the first.
If accurate, this gives a broader picture of the events than only searching on SOF.

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quote:
Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
Didn't Curious Buddhist return later as Unicycle? We had a whole prayer thread deleted to remove Unicycle's posts. And Shipmates became a lot more cynical

"Unicycle" was posting at the same time as Curious Buddhist and all her wider sock puppets. S/he was also posting as "tryingtobefriendly" IIRC, also around the same time - but that character mainly migrated to St Pixels and ended up causing havoc there too. If memory serves me, wasn't one of the things that led the PTB to put two and two together that Curious Buddhist and co here and tryingtobefriendly on St Pixels were both posting about their cat, and posting pictures of the same cat? The other feature in common was lots of dramatic back stories - CB and all that Bosnia stuff, unicycle claiming to be married to someone who died in a real-life motorway crash, and tryingtobefriendly as severely autistic. It must have been exhausting and a full-time job trying to maintain all those personae at the same time.

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Tubbs

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quote:
Originally posted by Jack the Lass:
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
Didn't Curious Buddhist return later as Unicycle? We had a whole prayer thread deleted to remove Unicycle's posts. And Shipmates became a lot more cynical

"Unicycle" was posting at the same time as Curious Buddhist and all her wider sock puppets. S/he was also posting as "tryingtobefriendly" IIRC, also around the same time - but that character mainly migrated to St Pixels and ended up causing havoc there too. If memory serves me, wasn't one of the things that led the PTB to put two and two together that Curious Buddhist and co here and tryingtobefriendly on St Pixels were both posting about their cat, and posting pictures of the same cat? The other feature in common was lots of dramatic back stories - CB and all that Bosnia stuff, unicycle claiming to be married to someone who died in a real-life motorway crash, and tryingtobefriendly as severely autistic. It must have been exhausting and a full-time job trying to maintain all those personae at the same time.
People had suspicions for a while as it should have been possible to confirm some of the details from third party sources. The cat pictures were the confirmation that they were all one and the same, although there were other things as well. It may have been just one person or a group of housemates seeing how far their prank would run before they got busted.

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Kelly Alves

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Nev Schulman ain't got nothing on us...

[ 01. September 2013, 17:16: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

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Given that it is at least possible that Catfish might not be a textbook documentary, what are you saying about the Ship, Kelly?

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Kelly Alves

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He's got a tv show now, and walks the viewer through helpful tips on how to research a person's FB profile, stuff like that, while stalking "catfish". And whether the show is staged or not, he's fuckin' cute as hell.

But it was more or less a flip remark, so, you can take it that way, too. [Big Grin]

[ 01. September 2013, 18:06: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

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Pyx_e

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quote:
Originally posted by luvanddaisies:

...but it's also wondering if there ever will be a book about SoF's history,

Graphic Novel!!!!!

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Robert Armin

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Written and drawn by Frank Millar?

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Even considering Hooker's Trick, I don't think there are near enough whores for the average Miller comic.

Violence, in Hell maybe. Gray area anti heroes, a dime a dozen—ITTWACW, after all. But that last trope? We got work to...not do.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jack the Lass:
S/he was also posting as "tryingtobefriendly" IIRC, also around the same time...

That all pre-dated me . Perhaps s/he just wanted to belong?
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This thread's been an interesting read. Pity the TnT board has vanished from the face of the internet. That one sounds hilarious for all the wrong reasons...

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Alan Cresswell

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The TnT board wasn't created to be funny, though there was certainly some humour there. Basically, there was (and probably still is) in some parts of the church this idea that Christians shouldn't talk about sex. Of course, it's a very stupid idea and the best way to challenge it was to have a section of the Ship specifically devoted to the discussion of sex. We ran it a couple of times, by which time the message had sunk in that there's nothing dirty or sinful about discussing sex and such discussions can have their rightful place on the main boards like any other subject.

It's not all gone. There are still some threads in Oblivion. This one was the first I found

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It's not all gone. There are still some threads in Oblivion. This one was the first I found

Yes, but from what I've read, the worst bits didn't even make it to Oblivion, which gives a rather less than rounded overview of that experiment as a result. (And I totally appreciate that it was meant to serve a sensible purpose. Maybe on that basis its temporariness was a mistake. But I imagine it was a moderation nightmare.)

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Moo

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quote:
Originally posted by pererin:
Yes, but from what I've read, the worst bits didn't even make it to Oblivion, which gives a rather less than rounded overview of that experiment as a result.

IIRC Oblivion was not set up until years after the T'n'T boards were discontinued. Before Oblivion was set up, outstanding old threads were sent to Limbo, and all others were deleted.

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Alan Cresswell

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Yes, the threads in Oblivion are mostly those that had originally been put in Limbo. When we set up Oblivion, we took the opportunity to thin Limbo down to just the very best of the best. By definition, therefore, those threads that still remain from TnT are the ones that we thought were the best exemplars of that board.

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Originally posted by pererin:
And I totally appreciate that it was meant to serve a sensible purpose. Maybe on that basis its temporariness was a mistake. But I imagine it was a moderation nightmare.

Initially, TnT was home to some fantastic discussions on topics that would have been over-the-top anywhere else on the Ship. Over time, however, the sexual topics because less shocking and more accepted on the main boards. TnT spiraled downwards into silliness and rampant oversharing. In my view, TnT accomplished its purpose of bringing a wide range of sex-related topics into general discussion, leaving itself no reason to exist.

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quote:
Originally posted by passer:
quote:
Originally posted by Jack the Lass:
S/he was also posting as "tryingtobefriendly" IIRC, also around the same time...

That all pre-dated me . Perhaps s/he just wanted to belong?
Saw what you did there. Don't do that. Personal atacks belong in Hell.

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Chorister

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quote:
Originally posted by Pyx_e:
quote:
Originally posted by luvanddaisies:

...but it's also wondering if there ever will be a book about SoF's history,

Graphic Novel!!!!!
I'm still waiting for Pyx_e to prick it out in leather.

(Everyone knows that in Christianity, as wall-paintings and stained glass windows prove, the great unwashed can only read in pictures.)

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Robert Armin

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I'm still waiting for Pyx_e to prick it out in leather.
That Might tempt Chast back.....

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frin

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Originally posted by Pyx_e:
quote:
Originally posted by luvanddaisies:

...but it's also wondering if there ever will be a book about SoF's history,

Graphic Novel!!!!!
There is a ship of fools generated book. There was a thread, which made lots of use of the pseudonym feature on the old boards, in which a very long and convoluted story was told with various ship personalities drafted in as characters. Like a circus thread, people took turns to add an entry into the story, and they did it from character perspectives - diary entries, letters, emails, a 'found story' kind of writing. When the thread had been going long enough that people were running out of steam, we were encouraged (by Miss Monica) to keep going and keep moving the plot forward. Some time later, Miss Monica had copies printed up as a book. I have mine still. It wouldn't mean much to people who joined the board later, as it is full of in-jokes. But it is great for reading back and remembering (or guessing) who was contributing as who.

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Og, King of Bashan

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This seems to be the best place to ask this. Every time a new troll comes along, someone laments that Erin isn't here to take care of it. I don't think I really got my sea legs before Erin left us, which makes me sad. Can anyone suggest a classic thread down in Limbo where I can really see the Gator doing what she did best?

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