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Zeke
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Have we now seen the whole lot?
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Duo Seraphim*
Sea lawyer
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeke:
Have we now seen the whole lot?
Yes, we have. We aren't accepting any new jokes. But the Top 10 have yet to be announced...
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HenryT
Canadian Anglican
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Originally posted by Duo Seraphim:
...We aren't accepting any new jokes....
But, in Heaven there is a thread of Jokes Left Behind if you've got any thigh-slappers you didn't submit in time.
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iGeek.*
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It was an interesting experience at Greenbelt hearing the jokes read out loud. Especially, the offensive ones. I reacted to them more intensely than I did when I simply read them.
The top 3 offensive jokes were literally painful to hear (even though I'd read them before here).
But James Carrey (sp?) telling me I ought to repent seemed out of line.
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Little Miss Methodist*
Ship's Diplomat
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I found James Carey more offensive than the jokes.
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Marvin the Martian
Interplanetary
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Originally posted by iGeek.:
But James Carrey (sp?) telling me I ought to repent seemed out of line.
As I said on Monday, to me that was the single most offensive thing I heard in the whole hour.
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Pyx_e
Quixotic Tilter
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Pray, tell me more.
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Marvin the Martian
Interplanetary
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James Carey was on the panel when Simon and Steve presented the top 10 funniest and most offensive jokes at Greenbelt. He made a big thing of leaving the room while the most offensive ones were told.
His first words on re-entering afterwards were "if anyone laughed at any of those, they should repent right now" (paraphrased - I don't have a perfect memory). Which I found rather offensive, in a "who are you to judge" kind of way.
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Little Miss Methodist*
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He also said, jokingly, that he wanted to leave the room as he didn't want to be struck down dead for listening to that sort of thing. Well, he said he was joking, and i'm sure he was, but then again, he did leave the room...
But it was the idea that we needed to repent that was most offensive. I think he should have gone to the seminar I went to on the saturday morning about whether God has a sense of humour. It wasn't the best seminar ever, but was pretty good, and I think it could have given whats his name some things to think about.
I know its good to have views from lots of different perspectives, but the way he went on and on was inappropriate, and I think I got that feeling from the rest of the audience. But that wasn't the fault of Simon, or Steve or anyone else there, this guy was just determined to have his say.
So, if you want to know what I find offensive about religious humour, its that - being told what I can and can not laugh at, and that if I laugh at some things, then I need forgiveness.
I dunno, i'm sure God has more important things on his mind than striking down dead a group of people just cause they heard some religious jokes. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Spong
Ship's coffee grinder
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I actually found James rather refreshing. It was good to see someone who seemed to really be trying to sort out in his own mind what he should be doing and what he shouldn't. Yes, it was perhaps over the top to tell the rest of us to repent, but he reminded me that my faith is supposed to make a difference to the way I act, and not just in the typically Greenbelty issues of social justice.
Actually the only thing I found a bit off in what he said was his worry about what his church would think, but then I suspect I don't go to a church that's anything like his, so it's easy for me to be brave.
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John Donne
Renaissance Man
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Is James Carey the poster, er, formerly called 'Spawn of Carey'?
Does this count as 'outing'? The poster doesn't hide his connections, though I've never heard his first name.
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Zeke
Ship's Inquirer
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Spawn's first name is different, I believe.
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Pyx_e
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Different Carey. Nuff said.
Pyx_e LJ Host.
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Spong
Ship's coffee grinder
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Different surname too... James Cary, the columnist for Third Way.
Spong
[ 03. September 2005, 19:14: Message edited by: Spong ]
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SteveTom
Contributing Editor
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A number of people have commented on how amusing it is to see people discussing humour so serioiusly - with the implication that if we weren't so up ourselves we could just relax and laugh at a joke without having to solemnly analyse it, that to take humour seriously is to miss the whole point.
It's only just occurred to me how wrong-headed this is.
Every area of culture is worth analysing because it a) it reveals how things we are interested in and value work; and b) it reveals something about ourselves and our world.
Both these things are equally true of humour, (b) perhaps even more true of humour than other arts because it works on such a visceral level.
And you don't expect a book about music to be tuneful, or a book about poetry to rhyme, or a book about history to be old. So what on earth is incongruous about talking seriously about humour?
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Spong
Ship's coffee grinder
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I agree that humour deserves to be analysed seriously, and that, if anything, it's the seemingly 'lighter' elements of culture that deserve to be analysed more closely because they haven't historically been analysed closely at all. For the same reason the Daily Mail-type knee-jerk reaction to media studies courses that look at soaps misses the whole point that analysis of soaps as a cultural phenomenon is not the same as (in fact is the exact opposite of) watching soaps uncritically.
The only thing I don't understand in Steve's post is the reference to people being amused at the serious analysis, because I'm not sure where this is supposed to be. This thread seems mostly to be about reactions and analysis, I'm not sure whether I've missed something on other threads, or whether it is a reference to outside media. If the last, then the problem is surely lazy journalism.
There are only a few responses that journalists are permitted to have to have to Christianity:
a) it's all gone downhill since liberal happy-clappies (sic) took over
b) it's all about sex, and any Christian who is not asexual is hypocritical
c) aligned with b) that it's all about not having any fun and being unworldly
d) (from the left-leaning) that it's nonsense peddled to the superstitious and credulous by the manipulative and power-hungry.
The Laugh Judgment presumably had to be understood in the context of c or d, depending on the publication's political sympathies, neither of which can actually do it justice.
Spong
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