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Simon

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This week sees the signing-up of our 10,000th member. To celebrate the occasion, we're holding an online auction in aid of the Ship of Fools Organ Fund, which exists for shipmates to help keep the ship afloat.

The 10,000th member auction invites you to bid for 15 low and interesting membership numbers – this is the first time these numbers have become available since they were first registered.

The auction begins at 12 noon (UK time) on Thursday 18th August, and the bidding currency will be US dollars – click here for a currency converter. The rules and procedure for the auction will be posted here later today, but meanwhile, post any questions or comments on this thread.

Please note that all the numbers we're auctioning are drawn from our stock of memberships that have either never been used, or were only ever used for a handful of posts more than three years ago.

You are welcome to bid for the number of your choice, and if you're successful, your existing board identity will be moved across to your new number, complete with your name, your login details, signature and post count. You'll be able to keep your existing avatar and title, or choose a new set.

Please remember this is an auction in aid of the ship. Adventurous bids welcome!

[ 17. August 2005, 15:44: Message edited by: Simon ]

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I had guessed at some of the numbers that might be auctioned, but 1662 wasn't one of them. [Smile]

Will there be any trans-atlantic rivalry (in the very friendliest manner) between 1066 and 1776? Somehow I think the latter is likely to prove more popular.

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chukovsky

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Having looked at the categories, and done a quick search, 1492 belongs to someone with 0 posts and 911 to someone with about 5 (since 2001)... Unless you're afraid of flooding the market?

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Marvin the Martian

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I guess they've got to keep a few back for when the 20,000th member registers...

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Simon

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We considered 1492, and quite a few other dates, but these are the five we're putting up for the foreseeable future. Thanks for 911, though -- hadn't thought of that.

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777 - my favourite airplane! Must count out my pennies, ready for tomorrow!

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Hmmmm.... auctioning 911 - a bit tasteless?

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quote:
Originally posted by Qlib:
Hmmmm.... auctioning 911 - a bit tasteless?

They were no worse than Take That really.

I think if 999 is up for grabs it's only right that we have 911 too.

Neil

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RuthW

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911 is what you dial in an emergency in the US, Qlib. We say "nine one one" and write "911" for that and "nine eleven" and write "9/11" to refer to September 11, 2001--so no, not tasteless at all.
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Matrix
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How will the auction run? will we see others' bids on the thread? will the flood control be disabled on this forum to enable quick bidding? How long will the auction last?

M

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Patience, dear Matrix. I'll be posting the procedure for all this shortly, which will answer your questions and lots more besides.

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Very fun stuff here.

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Alfred E. Neuman

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Can a winner submit an animated .GIF for their avatar, Simon?

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quote:
Originally posted by Simon:

The 10,000th member auction invites you to bid for 15 low and interesting membership numbers – this is the first time these numbers have become available since they were first registered.

The auction begins at 12 noon (UK time) on Thursday 18th August, and the bidding currency will be US dollars – click here for a currency converter. The rules and procedure for the auction will be posted here later today, but meanwhile, post any questions or comments on this thread.

Please note that all the numbers we're auctioning are drawn from our stock of memberships that have either never been used, or were only ever used for a handful of posts more than three years ago.


Um it was May 2001. My brain is sore but isnt it 4 years?

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quote:
Originally posted by Bronwyn:
quote:
Originally posted by Simon:

...Please note that all the numbers we're auctioning are drawn from our stock of memberships that have either never been used, or were only ever used for a handful of posts more than three years ago.


Um it was May 2001. My brain is sore but isnt it 4 years?
Which is more than 3 years! [Biased]

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Simon

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Some of the registrations date from later in 2001, which is why I've said "more than three years ago". The criterion for this auction was that we wouldn't auction anything less than three years old.

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911 makes me think of Porsche sports cars rather than anything else, but I'm just a petrolhead... [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Gort:
Can a winner submit an animated .GIF for their avatar, Simon?

IIRC, this was discussed some time ago and only Simon is entitled to an animated avatar.
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Simon

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quote:
Originally posted by Gort:
Can a winner submit an animated .GIF for their avatar, Simon?

I'm afraid not, Gort. But stay tuned... we should have some news on that subject in September.

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quote:
Originally posted by Traveller:
911 makes me think of Porsche sports cars rather than anything else, but I'm just a petrolhead... [Big Grin]

You and me both, amigo. Especially since I'm trying to obtain one of said Porsches.
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Do you get the avatar the number is shown with, if you like it?

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anglicanrascal
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How will Shipmates whose currency is not US dollars be able to pay?
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeke:
Do you get the avatar the number is shown with, if you like it?

Yes. There are three options here, actually. You can keep the avatar, or you can move in your existing avatar, or you can send us a new avatar of your choice.
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Originally posted by anglicanrascal:
How will Shipmates whose currency is not US dollars be able to pay?

We'll look at the exchange rate on the day the auction closes and quote the winning figure in UK pounds, or Australian, Canadian or New Zealand dollars then.

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chukovsky

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Looks like you could also auction 411 if you wanted, and 0800 ("I'm free!") and 192 (though the latter doesn't have quite the associations that 411 has, and even less so now we've got 118 - which no-one can remember, but which is also available).

OK, I'll stop now. I'm getting number-fixated [Paranoid] .

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quote:
Originally posted by chukovsky:
OK, I'll stop now. I'm getting number-fixated [Paranoid] .

Careful, or you'll become 404 - an error message.

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anglicanrascal
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon:
quote:
Originally posted by anglicanrascal:
How will Shipmates whose currency is not US dollars be able to pay?

We'll look at the exchange rate on the day the auction closes and quote the winning figure in UK pounds, or Australian, Canadian or New Zealand dollars then. [/QB]
Cool - that bit I understand. How exactly will we be able to pay?
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quote:
Originally posted by anglicanrascal:
How exactly will we be able to pay?

I suspect the same way you're currently able to support the Ship through the Organ Fund. Follow the Organ Fund link on the side menu and you'll find a way of giving to the Ship in several currencies.

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I suspect most people reading this will have access to the internet. Some of you may even bank online. If you are not entering the auction (or enter but are priced out of the mumber market by all these highly waged gits) why not set up a small monthly standing order? Say the price of a couple of pints or cake. You will not miss it, and over a year it adds up to the cheapest cost per hour of just pure fun you will see this side of the pearly gates.

Go on what is a couple of quid/dollars an month?

You know you want to.

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quote:
Originally posted by anglicanrascal:
How exactly will we be able to pay?

We'll be opening a special online payments page a couple of days before the end of the auction. It'll all be clearly signposted. People will be able to pay online (credit card) or via a cheque/check in the post.

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Can we bid for a number to put it out of use? Say, for, 1966? Or if you win a bid do you have to adopt the number?

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quote:
Originally posted by strathclydezero:
Can we bid for a number to put it out of use? Say, for, 1966? Or if you win a bid do you have to adopt the number?

Just picked a number off the top of your head eh Strath? [Snigger]

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Too bad that 1204 is not available, otherwise it could have been sold to either Fr. Gregory or Mousethief [Two face]

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Or 1054. [Big Grin]

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Matrix
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quote:
Originally posted by strathclydezero:
Can we bid for a number to put it out of use? Say, for, 1966? Or if you win a bid do you have to adopt the number?

Aren't they selling the year that Scotland won?

oh...sorry...

M

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quote:
Originally posted by Matrix:
Aren't they selling the year that Scotland won?

1967 would have been eligible, but it isn't one of the lots.

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No doubt Strathclydezero would want 1967, M...

[Roll Eyes]

(crossposted with Strathclydezero - I wasn't wrong was I?)

[ 18. August 2005, 14:59: Message edited by: Ancient Mariner ]

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How about considering a thread for people to request specific numbers? There may be some more that you could make available. (I.e., I checked my birth year, and it's a very, very, very old number with only two posts.)

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strathclydezero

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Keeping the list of numbers short concentrates the bidding. Less numbers with higher bids makes for less work than more numbers just over the reserve. [Biased]

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Grits
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True. Maybe their could be a post-auction auction. [Smile]

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I want 1977, if I don't get 37.

(which I won't)

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Simon

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Grits... we won't be expanding this auction, but if it's successful, we might consider something to follow it. Let's see how this one goes first.

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Campbellite

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quote:
Originally posted by Bonaventura:
Too bad that 1204 is not available, otherwise it could have been sold to either Fr. Gregory or Mousethief [Two face]

Whew! A near miss for me.

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Having won (which I'm sure I will because dead rock stars have such an infinite and therfore inflated supply of do re me) can I donate my win to a ship (and pillow) mate?

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Grits
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Yes, I'd also like to know if we can bid on a number, and then give it to someone else if we win.

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Simon implies here (not sure how to take the question mark) that it would be possible to transfer one's winning bid to another shipmate/person as a gift.

ETA: Though perhaps only in the situation where one person won two numbers. Obviously Simon will have the final say on this.

[ 18. August 2005, 22:17: Message edited by: jlg ]

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My question still lies open too ...

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And Simon, while you're pondering that, think also if you would accept more than one source of payment for a winning bid?

Grits' question made me think that some of us aren't actually seriously in pursuit a new number, but would be happy to throw in something in favor of a fellow shipmate. If this were allowed, it would be easier (and more reliable) if payments could be made directly.

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OK, having thought a bit more about this, it makes the whole process much more complicated. But perhaps an idea for a future auction?

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quote:
Originally posted by strathclydezero:
Can we bid for a number to put it out of use? Say, for, 1966? Or if you win a bid do you have to adopt the number?

If you win, no one is going to make you use the number as your identity.
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Originally posted by Zappa:
... can I donate my win to a ship (and pillow) mate?

Yes. The person you donate it to will then have the same luxury treatment, e.g. choosing a custom avatar and title for their new identity, etc.
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Originally posted by jlg:
And Simon, while you're pondering that, think also if you would accept more than one source of payment for a winning bid?

If you mean a group of shipmates forming a syndicate so they can bid collectively, then I think that's worth considering. I guess people might want to form syndicates for several reasons: for the fun of staying in the bidding wars; to win a number for another shipmate; to win a number and decide later which syndicate member gets to keep the number. Since this is a fundraiser for the ship, all of that sounds healthy for the auction... but what do people think?

Maybe some shipmates are already doing this!

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We are hearing tales of financial woe from shipmates who have reached their dollar limits (or had such a low limit as to have never been in the running).

On the other hand, we have shipmates throwing large sums around quite casually. I don't know what Sine is using, but I'm blowing off bits of inherited money that should have cushioned my senile years but will probably be devastated by my kids' college tuition.

Would it be possible to have a thread where the poor but worthy high-number shipmates could grovel, beg, blackmail, and otherwise attempt to strike deals with those of us with a bit of disposable income? I'm sure it would become quite, um, interesting. And so much easier than actually organizing a private behind-the-scenes consortium.

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quote:
Originally posted by jlg:
On the other hand, we have shipmates throwing large sums around quite casually. I don't know what Sine is using, but I'm blowing off bits of inherited money

Me??? What about Chapelhead?

But, as to "large sums" of money - this is just me, of course - but I feel I should give the Ship monthly what I give my church weekly. That's what it means to me. And through laziness I haven't done that in quite a while.

So I'm trying to pay up my arrears. If I get a fun new number, that's great. The Ship will get the money regardless.

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