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Gauk
Shipmate
# 1125
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Incidentally, let me expound on the wonders of 1125:
Not only is it the date of the death of Holy Roman Emperor Henry V, but also the end of the Liao Dynasty!
- I'm hanging on to it ...
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jlg
 What is this place? Why am I here?
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quote: Originally posted by Marvin the Martian: I think I've had enough now. I'll just spectate
No, no, no. Now's the time to take your little wad of cash and start organizing behind-the-scenes cabals to identify someone who really wants a particular number and drive up the last day or two of bidding.
All in Christian Love , of course, for the benefit of the Organ Fund and the glory of the Ship.
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LeRoc
 Famous Dutch pirate
# 3216
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On the web, I found nothing interesting on 3216!
But, whichever pair of digits you take, you can always form it into a multiple of the remaining two: 32 = 2 x 16 26 = 2 x 13 36 = 3 x 12 63 = 3 x 21
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Kelly Alves
 Bunny with an axe
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Well, that's pretty imperssive, to me at least.
(regarding no.66)Geo, you must be a lot older than you look. I was born two years after you graduated!
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Marvin the Martian
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4+3+6+0 = 13.
I'm in the 13 club as well ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Marvin the Martian
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Deadly Sins, right ?
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Mad Geo
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quote: Originally posted by Kelly Alves: Well, that's pretty imperssive, to me at least.
(regarding no.66)Geo, you must be a lot older than you look. I was born two years after you graduated!
It's all those artificial preservatives I eat.
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Sinistærial
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Now that the bids have got out of reach of 99% of shipmates, how about opening a book [benefiting the organ fund, of course!] to bet on the winners of each auction.
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JimT
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quote: Originally posted by Papio.: yeah, but 4+2+0+1 is 7.
And seven is a Biblically Significant number.
Not only that, but your number is a numerological cognate equivilent of mine since you just have an extra zero thrown in, which means nothing numerologically.
Bro!
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Kepler's Puppet
Shipmate
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So does anyone have a nice curve fitting program (as in, better than Excel) so that we can track the total money raised? Some of us find that sort of thing highly amusing It looks logarithmic just now.
(I probably need to get out more)
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Alfred E. Neuman
 What? Me worry?
# 6855
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I hope everyone considers kicking in their last bids for the benefit of the board that has so enriched our lives.
[yes, even mine]
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John Donne
 Renaissance Man
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What do ya mean Gorty? There is still a long time to go. Have I missed an announcement?!
But in the mean time, I think you should all practise swooning over Duo: quote: $2^8. Now tell me that ain't cosmic.
Definitely cosmic. Knee trembling, even.
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IngoB
 Sentire cum Ecclesia
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<smart ass>
Very galactic indeed! . But it would have been cosmic if she had written the same bid as:
$2^2^2^2
</smart ass>
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Pânts*
 Ship's underwear
# 4487
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quote: Originally posted by Auctioneer: Pânts has wondered about what her dollar bids come out to in pounds, and perhaps other non-US bidders would like to make reference to a handy-dandy currency conversion website.
Bad move. Now I know how much I'm bidding! It was just a fairly random number before!
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Fen Church
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Now that we have a currency translator, is there a language translator for those of us who don't speak maths?
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Gauk
Shipmate
# 1125
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quote: Originally posted by LeRoc: On the web, I found nothing interesting on 3216!
Never mind, I'm sure lots of interesting things will happen in 3216 AD when it finally comes round.
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Halo
Shipmate
# 6933
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I don't think I'm patient enough to wait for 6933AD.
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QLib
 Bad Example
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quote: Originally posted by LeRoc: On the web, I found nothing interesting on 3216!
3216 is a really important number. 6 is a perfect number, because its factors (3, 2 and 1) add up to it. That's probably whyyou can do all the fascinating multiplication stuff with it. So it's like 666,really, only much, much classier.
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Hennah
 Ship's Mother Hen
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quote: Originally posted by Kepler's Puppet: So does anyone have a nice curve fitting program (as in, better than Excel) so that we can track the total money raised? Some of us find that sort of thing highly amusing It looks logarithmic just now.
(I probably need to get out more)
I've got GraphPad Prism. Might have a bash at it this afternoon... seeing as it's pouring hard
Hen (sitting firmly on hands to prevent wayward bidding which cannot afford)
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Alfred E. Neuman
 What? Me worry?
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quote: Originally posted by The Coot: What do ya mean Gorty? There is still a long time to go. Have I missed an announcement?!...
Umm..youknow...like..err..those who have withdrawn 'cause bidding went too high? ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
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LeRoc
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# 3216
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Wow! A mighty dandy number I have indeed! ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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basso
 Ship’s Crypt Keeper
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quote: Originally posted by IngoB: <smart ass>
Very galactic indeed! . But it would have been cosmic if she had written the same bid as:
$2^2^2^2
</smart ass>
Not the same thing at all. You've got one too many exponents there. (A bid of $65,536 would make the auction a success, though, wouldn't it?)
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Hennah
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quote: Originally posted by Hennah: quote: Originally posted by Kepler's Puppet: So does anyone have a nice curve fitting program (as in, better than Excel)? It looks logarithmic just now.
I've got GraphPad Prism. Might have a bash at it this afternoon...
Whaddaya know, it's a beautiful hyperbola, approaching $1524 as of a couple of hours ago. And I've got a graph to prove it.
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Papio
 Ship's baboon
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quote: Originally posted by Pânts: quote: Originally posted by Auctioneer: Pânts has wondered about what her dollar bids come out to in pounds, and perhaps other non-US bidders would like to make reference to a handy-dandy currency conversion website.
Bad move. Now I know how much I'm bidding! It was just a fairly random number before!
Isn't it a good idea to know how much you are bidding, so that you don't get a much higher bill then you were expecting?
Hence the fact that I tend to type "currency converter" into Google before bidding or buying in foriegn money. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Pânts*
 Ship's underwear
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quote: Originally posted by Papio.: quote: Originally posted by Pânts: quote: Originally posted by Auctioneer: Pânts has wondered about what her dollar bids come out to in pounds, and perhaps other non-US bidders would like to make reference to a handy-dandy currency conversion website.
Bad move. Now I know how much I'm bidding! It was just a fairly random number before!
Isn't it a good idea to know how much you are bidding, so that you don't get a much higher bill then you were expecting?
Hence the fact that I tend to type "currency converter" into Google before bidding or buying in foriegn money.
Where's the fun in that?
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John Donne
 Renaissance Man
# 220
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quote: Originally posted by basso: quote: Originally posted by IngoB:
$2^2^2^2
Not the same thing at all. You've got one too many exponents there. (A bid of $65,536 would make the auction a success, though, wouldn't it?)
Nar. What he's written works. For operators all of the same precedence it's a straight left to right application in turn: ((2^2)^2)^2 as opposed to: 2^(2^(2^2))
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basso
 Ship’s Crypt Keeper
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quote: Originally posted by The Coot: Nar. What he's written works. For operators all of the same precedence it's a straight left to right application in turn: ((2^2)^2)^2 as opposed to: 2^(2^(2^2))
Ummm...no.
Multiple exponents are evaluated right-to-left.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations
b.
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Zappa
Ship's Wake
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What is a circumflex thingy interpersing a whole lot of numbers? I had enough trouble with 2+2+2+2. As for currency conversion I go for big picture: $US stronger. $AU weaker. Therefore lots/a few more $AUD than $US. It's far more helpful than knowing that my last bid was in reality $AUD83.467 . I've never worked out what to do with .007 of a dollar. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Hennah
 Ship's Mother Hen
# 9541
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Wanna hear something weird? The bid for number 66 stood at 66 dollars at 66 hours after it opened. Spooky, huh?
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jlg
 What is this place? Why am I here?
# 98
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**** NEWS FLASH!!! ****
'66' Replaces '666'
"An unexpected occurrence on Ship of Fools may be an indication that '66' is the new Mark of the Beast for the Second Millenium...
Details at eleven!"
[Code! ] [ 24. August 2005, 22:04: Message edited by: jlg ]
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IngoB
 Sentire cum Ecclesia
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quote: Originally posted by basso: Multiple exponents are evaluated right-to-left.
You are an even smarter ass. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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John Donne
 Renaissance Man
# 220
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I just put the expression into MATLAB to see what it thought...
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It's based on MAPLE iirc, which would be the most commonly used Computer Algebra System in the world.
(Not that this would ever be a problem in proper print).
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JimT
 Ship'th Mythtic
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Looks like you're right on, Coot. MAPLE bailed out on implementing the correct rule. Excel works just like it, too: operators of equal precedence with no parentheses are evaluated left to right, and exponentiation is obviously equal to exponentiation.
As Johnny Carson used to say, "That's wild. That's really wild. I did not know that."
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The exponentiation operator is non-associative. If you wish to do more than one exponentiation in an expression, you must use parentheses to tell Maple whether you want
> (2^3)^4;
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> 2^(3^4);
Lazy programmers!
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jlg
 What is this place? Why am I here?
# 98
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quote: Originally posted by Zappa: What is a circumflex thingy interpersing a whole lot of numbers? [...]
It's a way of writing 'powers' when you don't have access to superscripts.
2^2 => 2 to the second power => Two-squared => 2 times 2 = 4.
2^3 is Two cubed => 2 times 2 time 2 = 8
etc.
Does that sound familiar?
2^2^2^2 I suspect is territory you don't want to enter.
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IngoB
 Sentire cum Ecclesia
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Well, Mathematica yields 65536, "correctly". So does this little Fortran program
code:
program coot print*,2**2**2**2 end
I tested that with both g77 and Intel Fortran. C is of course too stupid a language to support the problem...
I'm not sure why "proper print" would solve the issue, other than by relying on a vague sense of "natural reading order" (i.e., top to bottom precedes left to right).
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Zappa
Ship's Wake
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quote: Originally posted by jlg: quote: Originally posted by Zappa: What is a circumflex thingy interpersing a whole lot of numbers? [...]
It's a way of writing 'powers' when you don't have access to superscripts.
2^2 => 2 to the second power => Two-squared => 2 times 2 = 4.
2^3 is Two cubed => 2 times 2 time 2 = 8
etc.
Does that sound familiar?
2^2^2^2 I suspect is territory you don't want to enter.
Phew. I'm less dumb that I thought I was. Perhaps.
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Kelly Alves
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What I want to know is why more of the 9000# people aren't jumping on this rare opportunity to tell the low-# where to stuff it?
Come on, newbs, get in there! [ 25. August 2005, 02:18: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
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Ian Climacus
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My brain is hurting. I thought I left Maths behind at uni. [Though I have to confess I found the exponent right -> left thing interesting: ]
944.
Also, the Transfer from Edessa to Constantinople of the the Icon of our Lord Jesus Christ Not-Made-by-Hands occurred in the year 944.
And 9 + 4 + 4 = 17, 1 + 7 = 8: the 8th Day: Eternal Sabbath! ![[Razz]](tongue.gif) [ 25. August 2005, 03:04: Message edited by: Ian Climacus ]
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Pyx_e
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quote: Originally posted by The Coot: Blah blah blah
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blah blah blah
P / still struggling with the fact that coot is math geek, sigh.
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Papio
 Ship's baboon
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quote: Originally posted by Zappa: quote: Originally posted by jlg: quote: Originally posted by Zappa: What is a circumflex thingy interpersing a whole lot of numbers? [...]
It's a way of writing 'powers' when you don't have access to superscripts.
2^2 => 2 to the second power => Two-squared => 2 times 2 = 4.
2^3 is Two cubed => 2 times 2 time 2 = 8
etc.
Does that sound familiar?
2^2^2^2 I suspect is territory you don't want to enter.
Phew. I'm less dumb that I thought I was. Perhaps.
I understand that as well.
Now, of course, someone is going to come along and point out that it is at GCSE level or something.
Let's face it, I have never even taken A-level maths so it can't be that hard if I understand.
Papio (who feels extremely cheated by getting a B in GCSE maths when he got an A or A+ for EVERY bit of maths homework)
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snowgoose
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quote: Originally posted by jlg: 2^2^2^2 I suspect is territory you don't want to enter.
I first read this to mean "2^2^2^(2i)" rather than "2^2^2^2 I". When they start allowing us to bid on imaginary numbers, I'll be the first in line!
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jlg
 What is this place? Why am I here?
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Oh dear, snowgoose, you're going to get them all scared again!
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Ann
 Curious
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quote: Originally posted by Ian Climacus: <snip>
And 9 + 4 + 4 = 17, 1 + 7 = 8: the 8th Day: Eternal Sabbath!
No. Just Monday morning again!
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Huia
Shipmate
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I thought posts in languages other than English were discouraged
Huia - not a mathmatician. Primary (grade) school level only and dumb as a post
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Spiffy
Ship's WonderSheep
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quote: Originally posted by Kelly Alves: What I want to know is why more of the 9000# people aren't jumping on this rare opportunity to tell the low-# where to stuff it?
Come on, newbs, get in there!
La la laaaa... If things keep going this way, I'll not only have the Battle of Hastings (Bwah! I'm posing an American Invasion all by my lonesome), but I'll have a lower number than yoooou!
*gloatgloatgloat* [ 25. August 2005, 18:29: Message edited by: Spiffy da Wonder Sheep ]
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The Bede's American Successor
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quote: Originally posted by jlg: Oh dear, snowgoose, you're going to get them all scared again!
One of the favorite football cheers at the University of Missouri-Rolla when I was in attendance:
quote: e**x dy/dx, e**x dx, tan sec cos sin, Come on Miners, hold that line.
It was always good for a blank stare and sometimes silence from the opposing team's bleachers from the other side of the field, and much more polite that the Elevator Cheer.
Not that we really cared.
Mostly engineering and science majors worried about football? Hardly.
(The double asterisk, **, means the same thing in FORTRAN IV-H Level and WATFIV as does the caret, ^, means in BASIC. Next I'll have to dredge up some IBM JCL for the System/360 for you.)
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jlg
 What is this place? Why am I here?
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I like that cheer. I would even consider subjecting myself to the boredom of a football game in order to participate in that cheer.
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