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Source: (consider it) Thread: The Peanut Gallery
Kepler's Puppet
Shipmate
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Are there any computer languages besides Fortran that use **, rather than ^, for exponentiation? I'm wondering if some of us are letting our nerdiness show....

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Zappa
Ship's Wake
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
I thought posts in languages other than English were discouraged [Biased]

Huia - [Hot and Hormonal] not a mathmatician. Primary (grade) school level only and dumb as a post

[Killing me] [Killing me]

I'm with you. I know nought about numbers. Mines boring - and now Amazing Grace has gazumped my attempt to have an interesting one. [Waterworks]

Never mind. I'll get over it. Now where's my therapist's hotline number again? [Roll Eyes]

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Zappa
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Wait a minute ... it's a prime number [Yipee] [Yipee] [Yipee]

Take your one thousand six hundred and sixty two and stuff it up yer pipe [Snigger]

[dances away jauntily whistling "I've got a prime number", to the tune of Penderecki's Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima [Yipee] [Yipee] [Yipee] ]

[ 26. August 2005, 01:34: Message edited by: Zappa ]

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jlg

What is this place?
Why am I here?
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*jlg crosses Zappa off list*
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IngoB

Sentire cum Ecclesia
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Wait a minute ... it's a prime number [Yipee] [Yipee] [Yipee]

You need glasses, the prime is 8443. [Devil] Take your pocket calculator and type: 9*937. (937 is a prime though).

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IngoB

Sentire cum Ecclesia
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<double post because of feeling guilty...>

Oh, all right then...

Sloane A003294 (Formerly M5446)

Numbers n such that n^4 can be written as a sum of four 4th powers.

Comments: Sequence gives solutions n to the Diophantine equation A^4 + B^4 + C^4 + D^4 = n^4 .

353, 651, 706, 1059, 1302, 1412, 2487, 2501, 2829, 3723, 3973, 4267, 4333, 4449, 4949, 5281, 5463, 5491, 5543, 5729, 6167, 6609, 6801, 7101, 7209, 7339, 7703, 8373, 8433, ...

4730^4+4806^4+5230^4+7565^4=8433^4

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Alfred E. Neuman

What? Me worry?
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You should have just stuck with feeling guilty.

Can I make a simple request? Could you all please post your bids in plain old decimal notation and spare us plebes the mental anquish of feeling left out?

Thanks muchly.

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Auctioneer

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Plug your member number in here and see if it's a prime.

Gort, right now the bidding is moving slowly enough that the current highest bid thread provides an adequate translation. Assuming that things will pick up again as the auction deadline nears, I'll ask people to stick with notation everyone can easily read in the last 48 hours or so.

Auctioneer
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[ 26. August 2005, 03:17: Message edited by: Auctioneer ]

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Zappa
Ship's Wake
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Oh dear (and I did forget my glasses) I don't even have that primal distinction thingy. I'm just a nothing - unless what IngoB said meant something [Ultra confused] . Fortunately I'd only got to the 567th bar of of Penderecki's Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima so I guess if I whistle it backwards now it'll cancell my most grievous sin? [Confused]

Or is there a theology of grace in an auction room Peanut Gallery? [Paranoid]

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Zappa,
I think you'll find that you can only expiate your sin by making another bid.
[Big Grin]

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Auctioneer

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Truer words were never spoke, Cranmer's baggage. [Big Grin]
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Zappa
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Nyyyeahhhh - but I've currently got the call on a certain British emergency number (not much use in OZ but never mind) and being both fiscally and numerically challenged I don't want to addle my three grey cells too much [Confused] [Ultra confused] .

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Alfred E. Neuman

What? Me worry?
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Hmmmmm... decisions, decisions...

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quote:
Originally posted by JimmyT:
Looks like you're right on, Coot. MAPLE bailed out on implementing the correct rule. Excel works just like it, too: operators of equal precedence with no parentheses are evaluated left to right, and exponentiation is obviously equal to exponentiation.

As Johnny Carson used to say, "That's wild. That's really wild. I did not know that."

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The exponentiation operator is non-associative. If you wish to do more than one exponentiation in an expression, you must use parentheses to tell Maple whether you want

> (2^3)^4;

or

> 2^(3^4);


Lazy programmers!
Which is why I knew that I had bid $256.00 and not more than $65K. I though it had a pleasing symmetry.

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Pyx_e

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Can we open a geek gallery? Please?

"The Pi-nut Gallery."

P

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Pyx_e

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Oh! shipmate 3141 does not exist, CONSPIRACY!

P

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snowgoose

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quote:
Originally posted by The Bede's American Successor:

quote:
e**x dy/dx,
e**x dx,
tan sec cos sin,
Come on Miners, hold that line.


Actually, I learned this version from folks who went to RPI, in NY State:
quote:

e^x dy/dx,
e^x dx
tangent secant cosine sine
three point one four one five nine
Square root, cube root, log of Pi,
Dis-integrate them, RPI!


[argh---it wouldn't let me do preview post!]

[ 26. August 2005, 14:01: Message edited by: snowgoose ]

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jlg

What is this place?
Why am I here?
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After the initial surge of enthusiasm, the daily totals were going along at a comfortable $100/day, plus-or-minus.

Today's increase was $4.00.

A measly and embarrassing and disreputable and disrespectful FOUR dollars. Truly pathetic.

C'mon, people, let's get those alliances and consortiums going. Pool your small bids into something that can compete. If you truly want a number, make advances to certain big-spenders (or small ones!) who perhaps don't actually plan on moving to a new address.

[Disappointed] Four dollars!

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Paul Mason
Shipmate
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I wouldn't worry too much. It's an auction with a set end-date. I predict a flurry of last minute bidding. I wouldn't be surprised to see an hourly increase of $100 in the last day or so.

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Zeke
Ship's Inquirer
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I'm a prime number! [Big Grin] [Yipee]

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Mad Geo

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quote:
Originally posted by Paul Mason:
I wouldn't worry too much. It's an auction with a set end-date. I predict a flurry of last minute bidding. I wouldn't be surprised to see an hourly increase of $100 in the last day or so.

Nah, we wouldn't think of doing that.

[Two face]

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Zeke
Ship's Inquirer
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I agree. Things have been really quiet the last day or so, and I have seen some pretty spirited bidding up to then. I think we'll see a lot more in the last couple of days.

[ 29. August 2005, 03:52: Message edited by: Zeke ]

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Alfred E. Neuman

What? Me worry?
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Bah! Everyone is maxxed-out and I'll be able to make a clean sweep, take them all and sell them for thousands on eBay! BwaaaHAHAHAAH! [Killing me] [Devil]

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Jonah the Whale

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For those who are maxed out but still wanting to participate in the fun, there is always the Predict the Auction Total thread. All the fun and none of the financial worries.

JtW

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balaam

Making an ass of myself
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul Mason:
I wouldn't worry too much. It's an auction with a set end-date. I predict a flurry of last minute bidding. I wouldn't be surprised to see an hourly increase of $100 in the last day or so.

I hope not, "Making an ass of Big Brother" as a title has a nice ring to it.

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Chapelhead*

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quote:
Originally posted by Gort:
Bah! Everyone is maxxed-out and I'll be able to make a clean sweep, take them all and sell them for thousands on eBay!

Quite so. I've just bought a new golf stick, so now I'm searching down the back of the sofa for lost coins. [Frown]

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Auctioneer

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quote:
Originally posted by Paul Mason:
I wouldn't worry too much. It's an auction with a set end-date. I predict a flurry of last minute bidding. I wouldn't be surprised to see an hourly increase of $100 in the last day or so.

From your mouth to God's ears! Or the bidders', if that's more efficient.

Now's the time to plan endgame strategies and pool your resources--just a few more days left.

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Zappa
Ship's Wake
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[Snigger] [Snigger] Sitting pretty on my scoop at present. Cheap at twice the price. [Snigger] [Snigger]

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Auctioneer

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You might have noticed that I've mostly picked slow-moving and/or low-priced bidding threads to bump up with Auctioneer posts. [Snigger]
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Hmmm...

Went away for a long weekend and fully expected to have been outbid by the time I returned.

But i'm still winning.

No idea how i'll find $85 though!

LMM

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jedijudy*

Jedi defender of ship's cats
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Is everyone waiting until the last moment? [Ultra confused]

This is eerily similar to the calm before the... hurricane!!!

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IngoB

Sentire cum Ecclesia
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You can make your predictions on the final total in my Circus thread. [Smile]

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Auctioneer

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I hope you're right, jedijudy, though it would be ideal if we could get the activity level of a category 5 hurricane without the widespread devastation. [Eek!]

Shipmates, please consider what the Ship means to you. If you've learned something in an intense discussion in Purgatory, if you've made co-workers or family members wonder why you're laughing like a maniac when it's just that you were reading Heaven, if you've ever pulled up a lounge chair and settled back to watch a good fight in Hell, if you're in the habit of checking the Ship regularly just to see what's going on or to see if your own thread topic is getting replies--think about what this is worth to you over the course of a few months or a year, and consider bidding in our auction.

The hosts and admins are all volunteers, and no one is getting rich running Ship of Fools. Auction monies will go into the Ship's Organ Fund to help keep the Ship afloat and Christian unrest alive and well.

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Matrix
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quote:
Originally posted by Auctioneer:

Shipmates, please consider what the Ship means to you. If you've learned something in an intense discussion in Purgatory, if you've made co-workers or family members wonder why you're laughing like a maniac when it's just that you were reading Heaven, if you've ever pulled up a lounge chair and settled back to watch a good fight in Hell, if you're in the habit of checking the Ship regularly just to see what's going on or to see if your own thread topic is getting replies--think about what this is worth to you over the course of a few months or a year, and consider bidding in our auction.

Would love to - but gone beyond my limited means. The auction's a great idea, and i do hope it'll raise some good money. But at the end of the day it will have only convinced 15 people out of the 10,000 members to part with cash.

A future auction could include quicker lots, more of them, and more lower priced items in order to increase the number of people coughing up.

Maybe we should have opened a book on the side somewhere...

M

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Zappa
Ship's Wake
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Oh hell. It's only a little bit - token even foe which I'm sorry - but I'm going to gazump myself. Come on guys - crash in high and hot.

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Firenze

Ordinary decent pagan
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Perhaps you could encourage people to send a donation equal to the total of the digits in their membership number? Even No 9999 would only be being solicited for £36.

And/or you could award every donor a small addition to their avatar - maybe a little star for each donation.

Not that the possession of such a diadem would be source of pride, or cause of envy; more of an encouragement don't you think?

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Papio

Ship's baboon
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Like giving Gold Stars in infant class?

No ta.

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Little Miss Methodist*

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Maybe the best thing would be to encourage those who are now priced out of the market to donate anyway? I mean, if you were willing to pay $40 to the ship for a new member number, perhaps it would be good if you also donated that amount anyway, number or not?

Thats my plan, but at the moment, i'm winning an auction, so I may not have to do that!

LMM

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Auctioneer

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This is the first time we've run an auction; if we do it again, we might do it differently--we'll have to evaluate how this one goes.

We recognize that the auction is limited to those with the means and inclination to give the Ship some of their disposable income. We're grateful for the bidders' willingness to support the Ship, and we appreciate any and all donations to the Organ Fund. If someone gives £3 or $5, that's £3 or $5 the Ship didn't have before; £30 or $50 would also be great, but not everyone can do that. And of course, no one has to give anything--posting on the Ship has been free for more than four years. We're grateful if you can help out; if you can't, we're glad to have you aboard.

Auctioneer
Pitchman for the Ship

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Wet Kipper
Circus Runaway
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Do what I have done, and pledge the limited cash you have to help a particular person whom you think should/could win a particular number.

come on people, take sides in a bidding war !! [Two face]

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KenWritez
Shipmate
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Does Simon have any plans to visit California in the next year or two?

If so, while I'm not interested in the current auction offerings, I'd be interested in bidding on, say, drinks and/or dinner. I'd pay for the consumables, too.

I think "Win a Date With Simon" could be quite a lucrative offering.

Oooh, here's a wacky idea: "Win a Wake-up Call from Simon"! Highest bidder wins a 10-second call from Simon on your landline or cell phone, wishing you a good morning.

Really, there's no end of possible offerings from this cornucopia.

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strathclydezero

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Bidders should be making pitches here to say why we should support their bid ...

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Pânts*

Ship's underwear
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quote:
Originally posted by KenWritez:
I think "Win a Date With Simon" could be quite a lucrative offering.

Oooh, here's a wacky idea: "Win a Wake-up Call from Simon"! Highest bidder wins a 10-second call from Simon on your landline or cell phone, wishing you a good morning.

[Killing me] Fab!

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I'm not here any more. Dial 999 to get me. (No. Please don't really. Bit you could PM me on my new number cos I never get PMs!)

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Firenze

Ordinary decent pagan
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quote:
Originally posted by Papio.:
Like giving Gold Stars in infant class?

No ta.

Drat. There goes my chance of being a Blessed Damozel.
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Paul Mason
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by KenWritez:
Oooh, here's a wacky idea: "Win a Wake-up Call from Simon"! Highest bidder wins a 10-second call from Simon on your landline or cell phone, wishing you a good morning.

How about Erin wishing someone you don't like an... erm not good day?


[Devil]

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Chorister

Completely Frocked
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Unless Simon has changed a lot, he is so softly spoken I doubt his voice would wake me up.

Anyway, my suggestion has always been to give a donation on the anniversary of when you join the ship. That way, the ship gets a present every year, regular as clockwork. And less messy than a bath of baked beans.

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Jonah the Whale

Ship's pet cetacean
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quote:
Originally posted by Papa Smurf:
Do what I have done, and pledge the limited cash you have to help a particular person whom you think should/could win a particular number.

come on people, take sides in a bidding war !! [Two face]

quote:
Originally posted by Strathclydezero:
Bidders should be making pitches here to say why we should support their bid ...

A couple of Scots planning a bidding consortium? What can that be about?

JtW

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jedijudy*

Jedi defender of ship's cats
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quote:
Originally posted by strathclydezero:
Bidders should be making pitches here to say why we should support their bid ...

A plea from the Jedi Temple:

Please help me to obtain the lovely number 333! I promise to take excellent care of it, and swear to use it only for good, not evil.

Why, 3 is practically a member of my family, being one of my initials canted in a different direction. Daughter-Unit has that and another initial which qualify as 3's with a differing orientation. So, we have three 3's between us.

So, as you can see, 333 will be treated with kindness and respect in our family.

Thank you for your kind consideration.

<jj bows to honorable Shipmates>

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LeRoc

Famous Dutch pirate
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I'm out. The dream of owning a prime number was sweet, but short-lasted. My only regret is that I'll never be able to taste Erin's Brunswick Stew. Oh well...

I will make a donation to the ship though.

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Zappa
Ship's Wake
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The square root of 1662 is

40.767634221279016965218004200425

I'm sure that's significant.

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and mayhap this too: http://broken-moments.blogspot.co.nz/

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