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Albertus
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The 'mystery' saint in the stained glass window: St Martin sharing his cloak with the beggar, no? A military saint, suitable for a church originally built by and for the army. (Report here ).

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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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That thought occurred to me as I was editing the report, but wouldn't St. Martin be depicted as tearing his cloak to share it with the beggar?

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I think it is St. Martin. He seems to have wrapped his cloak round the beggar while still wearing it, and is cutting it with his sword.

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Our place has a C17th (?) wooden statue of St. Martin which depicts him cutting his cloak with his sword. Showing the beggar already wrapped in the cloak seems to me to be a good way of getting round the space constraints of the window aperture.
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Gee D
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This is from James Keifer's notes for 11 November, very appropriately St Martin's Day:

One winter day he saw an ill-clad beggar at the gate of the city of Amiens. Martin had no money to give, but he cut his cloak in half and gave half to the beggar.

That suggests to me use of his sword. A knight in the 4th century would be most unlikely to be carrying a pair of scissors - a knife perhaps, but that was probably packed away in his esquire's baggage.

(Can one of the kind hosts please remove the first of my posts? I seem to have clicked send when I intended to click preview)

[ 16. April 2017, 22:18: Message edited by: Gee D ]

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An enjoyable report - the chaplain was our curate many years ago.

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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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quote:
Originally posted by Cathscats:
I think it is St. Martin. He seems to have wrapped his cloak round the beggar while still wearing it, and is cutting it with his sword.

Someone commenting on the report has pointed out that if you enlarge the photo, you can clearly see a horse next to Martin's left arm. That would be in keeping with Martin usually being portrayed on horseback.

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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:

(Can one of the kind hosts please remove the first of my posts? I seem to have clicked send when I intended to click preview)

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Gee D
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:

(Can one of the kind hosts please remove the first of my posts? I seem to have clicked send when I intended to click preview)

Your wish is, blah blah blah [Razz]
Thanks.

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