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orfeo
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That may be perfectly correct. Just so long as we don't confuse pee being equal with pee being the same. Because it isn't.
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Honest Ron Bacardi
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Originally posted by Inger:
There's women's pee, and then there's women's pee.
That's probably the link to read to see where all this nonsense is coming from. It probably didn't start off as anything to do with normal sex hormones, but artificial ones, specifically ethynyl estradiol (EE2), which is effectively a xenobiotic, and passes to a large degree unchanged through normal sewage treatment plants.
So my advice to chamois is - if you are not on the pill, piss away! If you are though, just remember to wash your veg. thoroughly first. Around 500 changes of water should do the job.
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Originally posted by Mary LA:
What about men who eat asparagus in spring and then pee green with a stinky old-socks pee?
When our kids were little we got them to eat asparagus by telling them their pee would stink if they ate it.
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Honest Ron Bacardi
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Originally posted by Mary LA:
What about men who eat asparagus in spring and then pee green with a stinky old-socks pee? They should be barred from the compost.
Far more men than women react to the consumption of asparagus by exuding volatile compounds such as
Methanethiol
Dimethyl sulfide
Dimethyl disufide
Dimethyl sulfoxide
Dimethyl sulfone
In other words, sulphurous men.
Oi! I saw that! Not everyone can do the smelly pee thing 'cos they don't have the right enzymes. And not everyone can smell the results either. But neither is sex-related.
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Originally posted by orfeo:
That male urine and female urine have slightly different composition is a basic biological fact. Deal with it.
No-one doubts it, but there's no basis to the belief that women's piss is any less effective a compost-activator than men's. Also, "deal with it" is a horrible neologism.
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Steve H
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Originally posted by PeteC:
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Originally posted by Steve H:
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Originally posted by Jahlove:
URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_urination_device]We r in ur compost heaps, writing our names[/URL]
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TMI!
How did you manage to fuck up a perfectly good URL?
It was fine when you started out. Wanker.
I'd've edited it if you twats gave us a reasonable time to edit. All but one of my other forums have no limit on the time, and the other one that does gives you 15 minutes.
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Originally posted by Honest Ron Bacardi:
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Originally posted by Inger:
There's women's pee, and then there's women's pee.
That's probably the link to read to see where all this nonsense is coming from. It probably didn't start off as anything to do with normal sex hormones, but artificial ones, specifically ethynyl estradiol (EE2), which is effectively a xenobiotic, and passes to a large degree unchanged through normal sewage treatment plants.
My thoughts exactly.
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Tortuf
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So now the male fish are saying to the female fish
"Don't worry honey. You won't get pregnant."
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Inger
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Originally posted by Mary LA:
What about men who eat asparagus in spring and then pee green with a stinky old-socks pee? They should be barred from the compost.
Far more men than women react to the consumption of asparagus by exuding volatile compounds such as
Methanethiol
Dimethyl sulfide
Dimethyl disufide
Dimethyl sulfoxide
Dimethyl sulfone
In other words, sulphurous men.
As far as I'm aware, this is not so much a question of how you metabolise certain compounds as whether you can smell the result. I can detect instantly when I've eaten even a very, very small amount of asparagus. My husband can't detect anything in his own pee.
How often do you get a chance to smell other people's pee?
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Originally posted by Inger:
How often do you get a chance to smell other people's pee?
Depends on whether you're into water sport!
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Well, suppose it is a fine spring morning and as a urine-empowered woman I go out to admire my compost heap and there is the dear man shaking his willie and the compost heap honks like mad and has a luminous dong-like green tinge on top and he says,'Don't you dare widdle on this, you are the wrong gender.'
Hypothetical twaddle of course.
Although I once went into a unisex toilet after a large asparagus-eating man had just exited.
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Apparently when they were desperate for saltpetre during the (British) Civil War, to make gunpowder, one source was to dig under the 'women's seats' in churches. Of course, in those days sermons were rather long and churches were not provided with WCs.
I kid you not! Male urine is apparently useless for this purpose as it has a different chemical composition. But it was useful in the textile trade.
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One wonders whether different ingredients are needed if the purpose of the compost heap is, in fact, to grow asparagus.
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Originally posted by Steve H:
I'd've edited it if you twats gave us a reasonable time to edit. All but one of my other forums have no limit on the time, and the other one that does gives you 15 minutes.
Don't let us keep you from them. No, really.
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In WW1 trenches, men quickly discovered that urine soaked cloth covering the face countered the effect of Chlorine gas.
Piss can come in handy in most unexpected ways .
But ladies ? No, please do not pee on your compost heaps . It's most unladylike, and besides any thing that risks us men not being able to sire lots of little brats is quite out of the question.
< quickly posts , to avoid in-coming flying crockery >
With the global human population standing at 7 billion and rising, anything that suppresses male potency has got to be counted as a good thing .
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Originally posted by rolyn
Piss can come in handy in most unexpected ways .
Apparently so.
Although I'm not sure about taking the piss quite so literally!
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Eeeeechh !!
Think I'll stick to the apple juice if you don't mind.
Suppose she would make some fellow an inexpensive date . Puts new meaning to a 'night out on the piss'.
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Originally posted by Steve H:
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Originally posted by PeteC:
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Originally posted by Steve H:
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Originally posted by Jahlove:
URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_urination_device]We r in ur compost heaps, writing our names[/URL]
TMI!
How did you manage to fuck up a perfectly good URL?
It was fine when you started out. Wanker.
I'd've edited it if you twats gave us a reasonable time to edit. All but one of my other forums have no limit on the time, and the other one that does gives you 15 minutes.
Wanker.
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Originally posted by Steve H:
I'd've edited it if you twats gave us a reasonable time to edit. All but one of my other forums have no limit on the time, and the other one that does gives you 15 minutes.
Wanker.
There's a button that says "Preview Post". Try using it.
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Originally posted by Sighthound:
I kid you not! Male urine is apparently useless for this purpose as it has a different chemical composition. But it was useful in the textile trade.
As in the transportation of urine from Newcastle to soak Tweed fabric in? So I've heard anyway. The wee was used to do something useful to the Tweed, but the downside was the special odour in the places where Tweedy-wearing people gathered, especially if they'd just come in from the rain.
If true, I wonder how they gathered it and who from? ![[Paranoid]](graemlins/paranoid.gif)
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Originally posted by Pyx_e:
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For God's sake, don't get anyone started about peeing in the shower. People flip right the hell out over that.
My wife and I have taken to showering together, perhaps this is why the hair on my legs has stopped growing.
AtB Pyx_e
Too much information (re the wife, that is).
As for leg hair, I think it is the wearing of trousers that causes increasing baldness. Try doing your parish visits in a frock
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I never knew wearing trousers caused baldness. Next time I see a balding guy I'm going to tell him to skip all the Rogaine and just wear a kilt.
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Comedy rant? Gardening is SERIOUS STUFF!!!
Don't think you can beset me round with dismal stories about artificial hormones. I live in a city where at a conservative estimate every drop of water that comes out the tap has been through 5 sets of kidneys already. Chances are, one of these sets belongs to a woman who's on the Pill. My own pee that's been through the compost has got to be safer than that - at least I know where it came from.
Evensong and Firenze, right on, Sisters! Gardening women of the world unite! We hold these rights to be inalienable: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Horticulture.
So, without fear or favour, affection or ill-will, I shall stand proudly upright on my compost bin (purchased at a good discount from my local council - Save Waste Compost At Home) and Pee for Victory.
And to all you chromosomally-challenged men cowering in your garden sheds I say just one thing: you can take your pathetic inky dinky Y chromosomes, wrap them round your necks and choke yourselves with them - if the fragile little things don't break.
So there.
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Firenze
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Gives a whole new dimension to the idea of a Bog Garden.
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Firenze, may I just say you are blossoming on this thread?
What's in your fertilizer?
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Tortuf
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Chamois, peeing for right, truth, justice, and tasty veggies since 1987.
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Originally posted by leo:
... I think it is the wearing of trousers that causes increasing baldness. Try doing your parish visits in a frock
I think you'll find that the wearing of trousers causes frontal baldness. Frocks go with the bald patch at the crown. That's (obviously) why so many of you blokes in frocks have silly hats to complete the ensemble.
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by Honest Ron Bacardi:
It probably didn't start off as anything to do with normal sex hormones, but artificial ones, specifically ethynyl estradiol (EE2), which is effectively a xenobiotic, and passes to a large degree unchanged through normal sewage treatment plants.
So my advice to chamois is - if you are not on the pill, piss away! If you are though, just remember to wash your veg. thoroughly first. Around 500 changes of water should do the job.
That at least makes sense. An artifical chemical compound affecting things makes sense.
Back to my original point-- Genus homo has been around for about 2 million years, and homo sapiens has been around for about 200 thousand. the overwhelming bulk of that time, we were all peeing on bushes, every man, woman, and child. Yes, I understand, there are differences but there is just no goddamn way you can tell me that female urine would have somehow crazily evolved to become toxic to the ecosystem that produced it! That prehistoric women were going around strafing bushes willy nilly. We would have never made it to the agricultural age.
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For that matter what about female animals peeing in the wild?
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Firenze
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Firenze, may I just say you are blossoming on this thread?
What's in your fertilizer?
Currently, a rather nice Cremant de Limoux. (I'm not sure who's pissing on the vines of southern France, but keep up the good work.)
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Originally posted by Nicolemrw:
For that matter what about female animals peeing in the wild?
I think I dated one of those briefly, back in high school.
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Well, after reading this thread, I feel so much better about whizzing in various commercial corn/bean/wheat fields over the past few years. Perhaps I can get my farmer friends to hand over a little kick-back. Or maybe start a nice little part time gig. I have a very efficient bladder, and unlimited access to hop flavored diuretics... ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Sober Preacher's Kid
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It's been pissing down rain here the last few days. Should I have checked if it was a male rain or a female rain? How would one tell?
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orfeo
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Originally posted by Chamois:
I live in a city where at a conservative estimate every drop of water that comes out the tap has been through 5 sets of kidneys already.
Move.
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Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane are the same way, nu? Comes with living in a dry place and having to share.
Aqua Vitae indeed.
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Originally posted by orfeo:
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Originally posted by Chamois:
I live in a city where at a conservative estimate every drop of water that comes out the tap has been through 5 sets of kidneys already.
Move.
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Originally posted by Silver Faux:
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Originally posted by Nicolemrw:
For that matter what about female animals peeing in the wild?
I think I dated one of those briefly, back in high school.
And I bet you have lovely memories.
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If If male and female pee is the same, then that must be why the stick says I'm pregnant.
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Kelly Alves
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Nobody is saying they are the same, buddy, we're just saying women's piss is not napalm.
ETA: There's a Chuck Palahniuk novel I'd love to read.
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I believe a further discussion of women peeing on men should occur in F&S.
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Originally posted by Chamois:
There we were in Heaven, having an interesting chat about making compost, and up comes the idea that women's urine is not suitable for activating a compost heap because our hideously dangerous hormones may contaminate the vegetables and affect some man's potency.
None of this is factual. Urine doesn't "activate" a compost heap. It is typically a sterile solution containing many of the same nutrients as the decaying organic matter making up the compost heap. Few hormones would make it from the compost heap into the vegetables.
Women who don't wash their hands before passing the peace would prove to be a greater source of hormones to men.
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Lamb Chopped
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Stats show that most women do wash their hands, so worry not.... though given our anatomy there is normally no reason an unwashed hand would expose you to, er, hormones.
Why did i get into this thread?!!
I liked the shower peeing one too....
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Kelly Alves
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It really is a subject of universal import.
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orfeo
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
It really is a subject of universal import.
I can see the investigative report now. Urine: Do You Know What's Happening To Yours?
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Steve H
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Originally posted by Bartolomeo:
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Originally posted by Chamois:
There we were in Heaven, having an interesting chat about making compost, and up comes the idea that women's urine is not suitable for activating a compost heap because our hideously dangerous hormones may contaminate the vegetables and affect some man's potency.
None of this is factual. Urine doesn't "activate" a compost heap. It is typically a sterile solution containing many of the same nutrients as the decaying organic matter making up the compost heap. Few hormones would make it from the compost heap into the vegetables.
Urine is called a compost activator because it's high in nitrogen, which give the bacteria which start the composting process off something to work on, and start multiplying rapidly. Other good compost activators include grass clippings, comfrey leaves, and nettles, especially young ones. You can also buy compost activators, which come in the form of a powder, but when various activators are available free, they're a waste of money. 'Activator' may not be, scientifically speaking, the strictly correct term for them - I suppose it's really the bacteria themselves which are the activators - but it's the standard horticultural term. You are possibly confusing two separate vocabularies, a bit like insisting that courgettes are not vegetables but fruit. In the botanical vocabulary, they are, but from a culinary point of view, they're vegetables, because that's how they're used.
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
Stats show that most women do wash their hands, so worry not.... though given our anatomy there is normally no reason an unwashed hand would expose you to, er, hormones.
You don't wipe, then?
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Nobody is saying they are the same, buddy, we're just saying women's piss is not napalm.
Don't piss on my compost heap and tell me it's raining.
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rolyn
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Originally posted by Chamois:
Comedy rant? Gardening is SERIOUS STUFF!!!
And to all you chromosomally-challenged men cowering in your garden sheds I say just one thing: you can take your pathetic inky dinky Y chromosomes, wrap them round your necks and choke yourselves with them - if the fragile little things don't break.
So there.
I know gardening is serious stuff cos I live with someone who takes her gardening very seriously .
As for sweeping statements against the male populous might I suggest taking those two great fat X chromosomes, parking them over the edge of the compost bin and letting go of all the sweet pea you wish.
After that go indoors, select a pillow and imagine the whole male population is inside and punch the living f**K out of it .
I'm quite sure that'll make you feel a whole lot better.
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Rosa Winkel
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It's ironic that the pissing function is nicknamed as the "waterworks" when the ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif) smilie is written (when you look) with the word "waterworks" in it. Therefore I can only conclude that the op was a satire on the writer's own self-piteous victimhood myth.
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