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Thread: Evensong, bitch
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the long ranger
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Will I? Oh thanks for letting me know, I'll put it in the diary.
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"..If some have no teeth, then teeth will be provided.”
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Schroedinger's cat
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quote:
Originally posted by QLib:
quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
I was hoping we might eventually have a proper chance to give Evensong a good fuck
A new low.
Why thank you. I do try.
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Firenze
Ordinary decent pagan
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OTOH, you have to like any thread that gives us 'beer-soddled'.
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mdijon
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It does make a brief change from the heteronormative bigotry.
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irish_lord99
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Originally posted by the long ranger:
OK, y'know what - you are all right and I am mostly wrong. I apologise, I hadn't realised quite how highly strung I'd become in recent days.
I'm sorry Tortuf, totally unnecessary on my part.
But sorry, no apologies to Evensong.
Happy to accept any further slaps as required.
Bravo! ![[Smile]](smile.gif) A handsome apology indeed.
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rolyn
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No slaps from here LR . I've just read a whole page of posts without the attention slipping .
Spontaneity is what makes life worth living.
Evensong managed to push your button with a provocative smiley, and you've come down to Hell for a 'bile dump'.
I go along with PeteC , it did merit the pop-corn dish . (Just a pity ES didn't show-up)
Enjoy the rest of your day Long Ranger.
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Golden Key
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Re Evensong:
From what I saw, she was comparing Fr. G's posts to those of his previous incarnations on the Ship. He used to have a habit of posting what seemed like an interesting OP, only to inexorably lead it to "Orthodoxy is right". He did it so often that people could catch a whiff of it very early in the thread. And his...overly forceful and energetic and angry posting style at the time made it all the worse.
Fr. G has changed quite a bit for the better ![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif) , IMHO--but I caught a whiff of his old posting trick, too.
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
This is the sort of thing that makes one want to give Evensong the benefit of the doubt, which takes some doing. Of course if Father Gregory is involved also that makes it a twofer.
First of all, Heh. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Second of all, I can pretty much guess that evensong has no idea who Father G. is, given that he stopped posting (for the most part)long before she ever showed up.
I think they should join forces and rule Gotham City.
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
Re Evensong:
From what I saw, she was comparing Fr. G's posts to those of his previous incarnations on the Ship. He used to have a habit of posting what seemed like an interesting OP, only to inexorably lead it to "Orthodoxy is right". He did it so often that people could catch a whiff of it very early in the thread. And his...overly forceful and energetic and angry posting style at the time made it all the worse.
She was kinda being an asshole though. And I say this with love.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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SeraphimSarov
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And the bitch hasn't even made her entrance yet ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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mousethief
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Originally posted by Triple Tiara:
This will all end in tears, I can feel it in my bones. Shall I get the tissues?
I have heard that when a woman says she used a whole box of tissues watching a movie, it means something completely different than when a man says the same thing.
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art dunce
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She's rehearsing her entrance. Before it was called "Hello Dolly" it was called "Dolly, A Damned Exasperating Woman". True story.
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Kelly Alves
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Hey, that's right isn't it?
Having seen a picture of ES, I must say she'd look damn cute tricked out as Dolly Levi.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Ariston
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I . . . what? Do we need to bring back T&T for you lot? Between the half of you thinking about Evensnog dolled up for your entertainment and MT's version of Kleenex-box movies—I'm taking my popcorn (really, is the show over so soon?) and leaving before one of you says something lascivious about Our Royal Person.
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Golden Key
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Second of all, I can pretty much guess that evensong has no idea who Father G. is, given that he stopped posting (for the most part)long before she ever showed up.
I wondered about this while I was posting, but didn't have time to check the origin date on her profile. However, as I said, I was picking up the same whiff from Fr. G's posts. Much less combative ![[Cool]](cool.gif) , but hints of his old tricks.
FWIW.
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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Actually, from what she herself wrote, you're right. Guess I haven't been keeping tabs on Fr.G.
I stand by the asshole assesment, though.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Boogie
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Actually, from what she herself wrote, you're right. Guess I haven't been keeping tabs on Fr.G.
And a poster can read boards for years before they show up. So evensong's knowledge of Fr.G's style of working could easily pre-date her date of registration.
[ 17. June 2012, 07:37: Message edited by: Boogie ]
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Sir Pellinore
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Is this thread now "Waiting for Evensong"?
![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif)
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Mary LA
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Put an existential spin on it, Sir Pellinore:
"But that is not the question. Why are we here, that is the question. And we are blessed in this, that we happen to know the answer. Yes, in this immense confusion one thing alone is clear. We are waiting for Godot to come."
- Samuel Beckett, Waiting for Godot
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Sir Pellinore
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I remember both the play and the denouement, Mary LA.
As you know, they were still waiting.
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The Silent Acolyte
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I certainly have no brief for Evensong and her light-weight, slogan style of posting, but I probably wouldn't visit a thread that called me a bitch in its very title, either.
This thread title is witless and vulgar. The opening post even more so.
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Schroedinger's cat
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Originally posted by The Silent Acolyte:
I certainly have no brief for Evensong and her light-weight, slogan style of posting, but I probably wouldn't visit a thread that called me a bitch in its very title, either.
This thread title is witless and vulgar. The opening post even more so.
Ah yes, but it also has "Evensong" in the title, so it should be irresistable to the little bitch.
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QLib
Bad Example
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Enough of the sexist shit, already.
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Twilight
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We could always beat up on Schroedinger's Cat while the popcorn cools. I usually disapprove of dog piles but I'd put on my steel toed boots for that one.
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the long ranger
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Pity. I was hoping we might eventually have a proper chance to give Evensong a good fuck but I reckon not.
Please tell me this wasn't what you actually intended to write. In fact, please tell what it was that you intended to write.
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"..If some have no teeth, then teeth will be provided.”
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Actually, from what she herself wrote, you're right. Guess I haven't been keeping tabs on Fr.G.
And a poster can read boards for years before they show up. So evensong's knowledge of Fr.G's style of working could easily pre-date her date of registration.
True.
And y'all are right, SCat's invocation of gang-bang imagery makes me yank the Asshole Trophy out of ES's hands and place it in his. Ye Gods. Gwai's right, could you pick anything more stereotypically misogynistic?
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Lyda*Rose
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The irony is lovely. We have generally been guaranteed to be able to twit Evensong about making any Hell call "all about her". Now once again she has her own call; it is all about her and yet she can just sit back with a Mona Lisa smile and let us do all the work. If she manages to not make an appearance through the life of this thread, kudos to her! It's performance art using negative space.
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Schroedinger's cat
Ship's cool cat
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<serious hat on>
I am just being hellish. I have had enough spats with Evensong that I don't think she really bothers with anything I say anymore, and I know she is quite capable of sticking up for herself.
Hell has really come down in the world if I have to make clarifications of being mindlessly hellish. So if you have any more problems, you can just take your heads out of your own lower intestines, and fuck the fuck off.
<serious hat off>
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RuthW
liberal "peace first" hankie squeezer
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I don't think any clarification is necessary, Schroedinger's Cat. And feel free to go right on being "mindlessly hellish." Just be prepared to field accusations of being an sexist asshole if you're going to continue in the same vein. There are all sorts of reasons to add Evensong's posts to your "scroll past" list, but the fact that she's female isn't one of them.
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Jahlove
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quote:
Originally posted by Twilight:
We could always beat up on Schroedinger's Cat while the popcorn cools. I usually disapprove of dog piles but I'd put on my steel toed boots for that one.
*like*
with extra pointy hobnails
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
I am just being hellish.
The idea of hell is to express what you actually think - possibly with hyperbole. The social function being to avoid other areas being drowned in inter-poster bile.
But being egregiously sexist and then responding when called on it that "I am just being hellish" is really no better than using the word "nigger" and then responding to accusations of racism with the same justification.
There's offensive, and there's offensive giving a window onto your uncensored views. If its an act you are putting on to be hell-worthy, without the nous to realise the implications of what you are posting - then don't.
Additional note on hyperbole - if you say you are going to bugger someone with a studded silver-plated fish fork it is likely people will not take your intent very seriously. The more plausible an insult the more seriously it is likely to be taken.
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Arrietty
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Hell has really come down in the world if I have to make clarifications of being mindlessly hellish. So if you have any more problems, you can just take your heads out of your own lower intestines, and fuck the fuck off.
Far as I know the Hell guidelines have specified from very early on, and possibly even from the very beginning, of the Hell board:
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1. Racism, sexism, etc. – while you have a right to hold whatever opinion you like, if you post racist, sexist, disable-ist, or whateverist drivel here, may God have mercy on your soul.
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balaam
Making an ass of myself
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quote:
Originally posted by Jahlove:
quote:
Originally posted by Twilight:
We could always beat up on Schroedinger's Cat while the popcorn cools. I usually disapprove of dog piles but I'd put on my steel toed boots for that one.
with extra pointy hobnails
Nah, crampons.
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the long ranger
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quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
<serious hat on>
I am just being hellish. I have had enough spats with Evensong that I don't think she really bothers with anything I say anymore, and I know she is quite capable of sticking up for herself.
Hell has really come down in the world if I have to make clarifications of being mindlessly hellish. So if you have any more problems, you can just take your heads out of your own lower intestines, and fuck the fuck off.
<serious hat off>
Seems to me that there is all the difference in the world between telling someone to fuck off and saying that you want the chance to give someone a good fuck.
Here is a serious hat: you are a fucking little sexist weasel.
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"..into the outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth,” “But Rabbi, how can this happen for those who have no teeth?”
"..If some have no teeth, then teeth will be provided.”
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mdijon
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Says the guy who put bitch in the hell call title.
An entirely better class of misogynistic wanker.
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the long ranger
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quote:
Originally posted by mdijon:
Says the guy who put bitch in the hell call title.
An entirely better class of misogynistic wanker.
At no point did I suggest that any female should be gang raped. Prick.
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"..into the outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth,” “But Rabbi, how can this happen for those who have no teeth?”
"..If some have no teeth, then teeth will be provided.”
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Tortuf
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SC, is intelligent. He also harbors strong negative emotions towards Evensong. Unfortunately, it clouds his better judgment and is affecting the esteem in which he is held here on the Ship.
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mdijon
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quote:
Originally posted by Triple Tiara:
This will all end in tears, I can feel it in my bones. Shall I get the tissues?
quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
I have heard that when a woman says she used a whole box of tissues watching a movie, it means something completely different than when a man says the same thing.
That's the difference between a tear jerker and a jerker.
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Jahlove
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Originally posted by Tortuf:
SC, is intelligent.
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mdijon
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quote:
Originally posted by mdijon:
Says the guy who put bitch in the hell call title.
An entirely better class of misogynistic wanker.
quote:
Originally posted by the long ranger:
At no point did I suggest that any female should be gang raped. Prick.
We've all got to draw our lines for righteous superiority somewhere I guess.
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no prophet's flag is set so...
Proceed to see sea
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Originally posted by irish_lord99:
And seriously, calling someone 'turdface'? What are you, twelve?
The point is, that in Hell, everyone is twelve. Or less. And acts it with the corresponding level of maturity, and lack of self control, wit and charm.
This is about as clear and helpful as it gets:
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Originally posted by Think²:
The idea of hell is to express what you actually think - possibly with hyperbole. The social function being to avoid other areas being drowned in inter-poster bile.
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There's offensive, and there's offensive giving a window onto your uncensored views. If its an act you are putting on to be hell-worthy, without the nous to realise the implications of what you are posting - then don't.
Twelve year olds can be dangerous in terms of unfeelingness, self centredness, lack of any forms of self control, and tendency to fill their pants with their brains, and then squish them by sitting on them.
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Schroedinger's cat
Ship's cool cat
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I also never suggested that anyone should be gang raped.
And I only used the word "bitch" because it was in the fucking title.
I did make a suggestion that Evensong is so uptight that she might need be not getting enough. If you wanted to interpret that in other ways, that is your problem, not mine.
The fact that Evensong is female is not the point. The only gender-relevant comment was "bitch" which was in the fucking title.
And actually, I don't hold any particular negative feelings towards Evensong. I just find that her behaviour on the ship is often asking for trouble. But I only poke fun at her because she can take it.
Hell is a good place for me to let off steam. that is why I come here.
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the long ranger
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quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
I also never suggested that anyone should be gang raped.
I invited you to correct a typo that suggested Evensong come here so "we might eventually have a proper chance to give Evensong a good fuck". You refused.
Explain to me how that is not a suggestion to gang rape.
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mdijon
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quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
I was hoping we might eventually have a proper chance to give Evensong a good fuck
quote:
Subsequently rationalised in the mind of Schroedinger's cat to:
I did make a suggestion that Evensong is so uptight that she might need be not getting enough. If you wanted to interpret that in other ways, that is your problem, not mine.
The fact that Evensong is female is not the point. The only gender-relevant comment was "bitch" which was in the fucking title.
You should ask yourself why you didn't refer to the exact wording of your post in your defence of it.
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Jahlove
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Evensong is so uptight that she might need be not getting enough.
project much?
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rugasaw
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Hell has really come down in the world if I have to make clarifications of being mindlessly hellish.
Try less mindless.
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Beeswax Altar
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
The irony is lovely. We have generally been guaranteed to be able to twit Evensong about making any Hell call "all about her". Now once again she has her own call; it is all about her and yet she can just sit back with a Mona Lisa smile and let us do all the work. If she manages to not make an appearance through the life of this thread, kudos to her! It's performance art using negative space.
I'm so proud of Evensong. ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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Doublethink.
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
I did make a suggestion that Evensong is so uptight that she might need be not getting enough.
That is the bit that is sexist, (suggesting someone being gang-raped is in incredibly poor taste regardless of gender), it speaks to a history of the patriarchal explanation and control of female sexuality.
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Jahlove
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SC has form for this sort of sexist shit - (tried to think of some clever one liner but meh) - meh
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The phrase tends to get used of both sexes. Much more sexist are comments relating to PMT or men who compensate for their inadequacies by driving large cars.
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