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Thread: The Nature and Authority of Holy Tradition
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Mark Betts
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
It doesn't matter how you phrase it, Mark, it still makes "he clearly wants us to think these things through for ourselves" a big fat lie.
I'm sure you are right, but is there anyone who writes anything with the completely unbiassed intention that their readers simply think for themselves.
Richard Dawkins says he wants people to think for themselves, but he sure as heck doesn't want people to end up doing just this, and coming to the conclusion that the Great Richard Dawkins might be wrong.
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Anselmina
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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
1 Cor 11v13: Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?
Advanced logic-choppers can have a meal with both, of course, but it is clear that the intent was "no need to bother!".
![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) I'd love to convince my bunch that I should always pray with my head covered - preferably with the duvet, in bed, at home. But I just know someone will complain.......
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Marvin the Martian
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Originally posted by Mark Betts:
I'm sure you are right, but is there anyone who writes anything with the completely unbiassed intention that their readers simply think for themselves.
Probably not, but most people at least have the good grace not to tell filthy stinking lies about trying to set people free while at the same time adding more padlocks to the same people's prison doors.
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Mark Betts
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Probably not, but most people at least have the good grace not to tell filthy stinking lies about trying to set people free while at the same time adding more padlocks to the same people's prison doors.
OK - before we go any further I don't think the Pope ever actually said "to make people think for themselves". If I remember, it was more to do with engaging people in talking about the things of Christ. He did not write the book under any papal "magisterium", so people were always free to disagree with him.
Anyway, volume II "Holy Week" is out now, so I hope you don't beat me in the queue, to buy the last copy before they are sold out! ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Holy Smoke
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
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Originally posted by Mark Betts:
I'm sure you are right, but is there anyone who writes anything with the completely unbiassed intention that their readers simply think for themselves.
Probably not, but most people at least have the good grace not to tell filthy stinking lies about trying to set people free while at the same time adding more padlocks to the same people's prison doors.
You might not believe it, Marvin, but the Pope does not normally tell filthy stinking lies. Rather, he believes that orthodox Catholic doctrine represents the truth about God and Jesus, therefore he presumably feels that the reader, if he were to think carefully and deeply about it, would come to the same conclusion. Presumably, he didn't have you in mind.
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