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cattyish
Wuss in Boots
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Sploosh! People overboard. Oh well, it's beer and bed time anyway.
Cat
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Chelley
Ship's Old Boot
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Managed to get in - which I couldn't do earlier!
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"What's good about sad?"
"It's happy for deep people!"
Sally Sparrow to Kathy - Doctor Who
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Wesley J
Silly Shipmate
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It's on again.
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Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)
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Zeke
Ship's Inquirer
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I've spoken to my ISP and the tech support for my computer, and they wonder if anything has been changed on the cafe. Does anybody have any ideas on why we can't get in anymore?
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Chelley
Ship's Old Boot
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Three attempts and failure! Cafe window opened each time then closed itself and bumped me out! Ho hum.
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"I love old things, they make me feel sad."
"What's good about sad?"
"It's happy for deep people!"
Sally Sparrow to Kathy - Doctor Who
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Chelley
Ship's Old Boot
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I think the cafe has barred me!
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"I love old things, they make me feel sad."
"What's good about sad?"
"It's happy for deep people!"
Sally Sparrow to Kathy - Doctor Who
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Sir Kevin
Ship's Gaffer
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Now it says cannot connect to server: it doesn't recognized St. Pixel's!
![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
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If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the other direction Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Writing is currently my hobby, not yet my profession.
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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The St Pixels server was being moved physically from one room to another in the server park. The café appears to be back now.
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeke:
I've spoken to my ISP and the tech support for my computer, and they wonder if anything has been changed on the cafe. Does anybody have any ideas on why we can't get in anymore?
Nothing has changed for several months.
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French Whine
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Sioni Sais
Shipmate
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booted ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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(Paul Sinha, BBC)
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rufiki
Ship's 'shroom
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Booted - with only two of us in there.
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Eutychus
From the edge
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code:
IO Error (java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect)
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : socketConnect at line -2
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : doConnect at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connectToAddress at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.SocksSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
uk.co.darkgreenmedia.faverolle.SocketComms : run at line 98
java.lang.Thread : run at line -1
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Let's remember that we are to build the Kingdom of God, not drive people away - pastor Frank Pomeroy
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Oremus
Shipmate
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The Cafe is still closed and I'm dying for a cuppa!
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Wesley J
Silly Shipmate
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I'm finding myself having an RL cuppa. Oh how dull! ![[Paranoid]](graemlins/paranoid.gif)
[Well, I suppose I could use one of my newly purchased 'Ship of Fools' mugs. Less dull. ![[Smile]](smile.gif) ]
[ 20. October 2008, 12:46: Message edited by: Wesley J ]
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Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)
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Emma Louise
Storm in a teapot
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glad to see that its not just me! I just tried the cafe and got "connection refused"....!!
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Wesley J
Silly Shipmate
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quote:
code:
IO Error (java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect)
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I'm getting exactly the same data as Eutychus, but with 'timed out', see above.
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Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)
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rufiki
Ship's 'shroom
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We didn't touch anything.
Honest!
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
# 1984
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What euty said - so I'm hanging out in the cafe in my sig.
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All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome. George Orwell
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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What the hell happened? I was trying to log into the cafe - and not connecting..
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lily pad
Shipmate
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I can't get in either, Alex, if it is any consolation.
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Sloppiness is not caring. Fussiness is caring about the wrong things. With thanks to Adeodatus!
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fletcher christian
Mutinous Seadog
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Can somebody let us know if there is a huge problem with the cafe?
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'God is love insaturable, love impossible to describe'
Staretz Silouan
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cattyish
Wuss in Boots
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No cafe How will I procrastinate from going to bed?
Cat
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
# 1984
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Come to the cafe in my sig - we have three peeps atm
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fletcher christian
Mutinous Seadog
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Umm... has the person with responsibility for the cafe server been raptured?
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'God is love insaturable, love impossible to describe'
Staretz Silouan
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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Still down - or appears to be...
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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AGGGHHHH!!!!
Cafe still down!
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
# 1984
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Feel free to use the one in my sig - helps if you post on born to chat thread to say you're there, then folk are more likely to join you.
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All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome. George Orwell
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Sir Kevin
Ship's Gaffer
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The admins and the geeks that do their bidding never actually bloody read this bloody thread, do they? Do they not know that the official Ship's cafe has sunk to the level of a lewd practical joke? It bloody never opens and I have a late-model iMAC with broadband that had no trouble at all getting in earlier this year.
![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
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If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the other direction Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Writing is currently my hobby, not yet my profession.
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Alfred E. Neuman
What? Me worry?
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Welcome to the wonderful world of custom javascript. ![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif)
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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Had an email from Melon - saying that apparently I need to use port 25424... Huh?
Does this mean we have to open other ports and start asking our ISPs to permit different traffic?
Please could an admin tell us EXACTLY what we have to do now?
Alex
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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I've checked the rules on my router - and I allow all outbound connections, and none inbound.
This has always worked in the past.
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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quote:
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
The admins and the geeks that do their bidding never actually bloody read this bloody thread, do they?
I deeply resent the suggestion that it has ever even occurred to the geeks to do the admins' bidding!
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I have a late-model iMAC
No wonder you are so bitter and twisted!
I think it should work a bit better now that the server is running. It looks like it was never restarted when we moved servers about a week ago.
Sorry about that, and thanks to Alex for PMing something that made enough sense for me to investigate, rather than assuming that it was yet another "It wasn't me it was my firewall" problem.
[ 25. October 2008, 13:20: Message edited by: Melon ]
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French Whine
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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Well I'm logged in, where's everyone else?! I shall send a small but perfectly-formed gift to the first three shipmates who make it aboard...
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French Whine
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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The lucky winners were Curiosity killed the cat, Christian Fletcher and Alex Cockell. Although I wonder if Curiosity should be disqualified for trying every 15 seconds day and night since the café went down.
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French Whine
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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Actually I wasn't complaining as I quite liked having time for real life! And was rather hoping someone was prioritising selling mugs.
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Mugs - Keep the Ship afloat
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Pigwidgeon
Ship's Owl
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Still waiting for mugs to make it to this side of the Pond.
![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
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~Tortuf
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Wesley J
Silly Shipmate
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Thank you, Melon. Pease be with you.
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Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)
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Jen.
Godless Liberal
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quote:
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
The admins and the geeks that do their bidding never actually bloody read this bloody thread, do they? Do they not know that the official Ship's cafe has sunk to the level of a lewd practical joke?
To be honest Sir Kevin, if that's your attitude, I'm glad you can't get in - we'll have a better time without you.
Jen.
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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Actually, it's odder than I thought (the café, not Sir Kevin). Agent Pease is on the case...
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French Whine
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Rossweisse
High Church Valkyrie
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Round trip = 219 milliseconds...
Disconnected
Oh, well...
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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Rossweisse, that sounds to me like a firewall problem. You need to open port 25424. Try turning off your firewall (briefly) and seeing if that makes a difference.
Sir Kevin, which version of OS X are you running? On Apples, the version of java is tied to the version of the OS.
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French Whine
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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OK - Sk came back to me - and I've done some digging.
SK - you said you bought your Mac back in early 2007 - this would have placed you at any of these levels
Model ; Date of release; OS (early); OS late
iMac (Late 2006 17-inch);Sept 2006;10.4.7;10.4.8
iMac (Late 2006 17-inch CD);Sept 2006;10.4.7;10.4.8, 10.4.10, 10.5.4
iMac (Late 2006 20-inch);Sept 2006;10.4.7;10.4.8
iMac (Late 2006 24-inch);Sept 2006;10.4.7;10.4.8
Looks as though you'd need this module - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2733... Java for Mac OS X 10.5 Update 2 ... but it doesn't want to play on versions earlier than 10.5.4.
Looks like you may be running version 10.4.something - you'll need to buy a retail upgrade to 10.54 or later.. then reinstall software etc...
Might be a case for a clean install to Leopard..
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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Melon - could you go back through the changes made? Was Java 1.4.2 OK at a pinch to get in until a few weeks back - then an uipdate done to match substrate to St P's box? At which point, anyone not running Java 1.5 as a minimum would have been locked out?
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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Melon, Pease, what changes were made just before 02 Oct?
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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Absolutely nothing has been updated in the last couple of months.
Java on Macs sucks, because Apple ties it to the version of OS X. If you have an old Mac, you won't be able to use our software, or any other software that uses Java Webstart. If Apple sends out a duff patch for Java, there is very little you can do about it.
We have a user on St Pixels with a Mac on which Apple has so far installed six different versions of Java at the same time. In those circumstances, the only amazing thing is that java ever works.
If you believe that Steve Jobs has your best interests at heart, you should stand by your Mac and blame the rest of the world for not being compatible. If you don't, your options are to either do what Steve Jobs want and shell out for a shiny new Mac every 2 years or move to another platform - any other platform in the world will let you make your own decisions about java.
Installing Leopard might be good enough if your hardware is up to it.
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French Whine
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Chelley
Ship's Old Boot
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Old boot kicked out!
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"I love old things, they make me feel sad."
"What's good about sad?"
"It's happy for deep people!"
Sally Sparrow to Kathy - Doctor Who
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