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Curiosity killed ...

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But I posted % just before without crashing it, not with anything else, so it's not just the % sign.

And why haven't we discussed crime statistics? We've discussed a fair few other topics. To the embarrassment of some of the café residents.

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cattyish

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I'm glad the cafe thread showed up on the front page or I would have been confused [Smile]

Come on cafe, work, I want to boast about our impromtu mini shipmeet.

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rufiki

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What mini Shipmeet would that be Cattyish?

Were are in here.

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Well ship cafe's still down, five of us are in Tumbleweed and alex has found that %s means string descriptor in printf - http://irc.essex.ac.uk/www.iota-six.co.uk/c/c2_printf_and_scanf.asp .

Hope that helps. (Tumbleweed link is in my sig.)

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Curiosity killed ...

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You really broke it this time, it's still down!

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Emma Louise

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Ican't get in but I guess its down for everyone then!

*really not impressed with the cafe at the moment*

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Alex Cockell

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Got it!.

Apparently the sequence "%s" was within a line...

Syntax for Printf command denotes %s is the first operand after the free text... so it would appear that the client thinks its sending a null operand... and crashing..

You'll need to parse for it and quote it..

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Sir Kevin
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I wish people would stop screwing around with the cafe just to shut it down for fun and I wish that it had sound.


[Frown] [Disappointed]

I am moderately angry: will try other cafes parallel to the ship.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
I wish people would stop screwing around with the cafe just to shut it down for fun and I wish that it had sound.


[Frown] [Disappointed]

I am moderately angry: will try other cafes parallel to the ship.

No one did that. No one wants the Cafe to shut down. Everyone wants it to work properly. Finding out what is causing it to shut down is the goal.

I wish it had sound too.

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Living in Gin

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Not working for me, and I've been using it successfully until now. Here's what I got when I tried to log in:

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IO Error (java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect)
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : socketConnect at line -2
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : doConnect at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connectToAddress at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.SocksSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
uk.co.darkgreenmedia.faverolle.SocketComms : run at line 98
java.lang.Thread : run at line -1

I'm running Firefox 3.0.6 on Windows XP Pro, Java 6.

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Curiosity killed ...

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Living in Gin, that's what everyone gets, and it's the normal response when the café is down. It crashed on Saturday evening (UK time) and has not reset itself as it usually does. After it was realised that the café was not stable it was set to reset within about half an hour, but not this time.

We have spotted that one of the things that crashes the café is certain urls being posted. Melon asked, further up this thread and in the café, to note which urls are causing the crash so he can patch whatever the problem is. What you are seeing over the past few pages is people recording what happened before or when the café crashed, and quite often doublechecking to see if it really was that url that caused it.

Sir Kevin, when Gwaelod was in, he was almost certainly checking to see what happened as they hadn't seen it, which is why, after asking you, I posted one of the urls which was known to crash the café to show what was happening. This last time, the café went down with a few of us in there, and when it came up we doublechecked what had caused the problem, crashing the café again, but this time terminally, so it seems.

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Doublethink.
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It crashes without there being a dodgy url posted. Will crash to %s in a sentence as well.

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quote:
Originally posted by Alex Cockell:
it would appear that the client thinks its sending a null operand... and crashing..

If that were so it would just crash your client, and not the server. The client isn't crashing, it just gets disconnected.
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Revelle

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I am much more bored today without my cafe.

[Frown]

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quote:
Originally posted by Revelle:
I am much more bored today without my cafe.

[Frown]

Hie thee unto Tumbleweed! See Doublethink's signature.

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monkeylizard

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I would, but I get some goofy Java error on Tumbleweed (yes, I have the latest version). Triple Distilled's is blocked at w*rk. I guess I'll have to do some of that stuff these people pay me to do...

[ 10. February 2009, 19:15: Message edited by: monkeylizard ]

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I'll see what I can do about that.

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Bugger ... have only been in a couple of times since I moved to NZ - never anyone there. Thought I would try it tonight (sad and bored ... long story) But
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IO Error (java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect)
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : socketConnect at line -2
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : doConnect at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connectToAddress at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.SocksSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
uk.co.darkgreenmedia.faverolle.SocketComms : run at line 98
java.lang.Thread : run at line -1

... then I checked this thread. Ah well. Faeces happen. [Frown]


PS ... I have no idea what I'm running!

[ 13. February 2009, 07:17: Message edited by: Zappa ]

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Foaming Draught
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I ask again. We had a perfectly good café, with a devoted clientèle, why did you have to bust something which didn't need fixing? Whoever's responsible for this débâcle, are you so concerned with saving face that you won't roll back to a working system, or you can't?

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Paul.
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quote:
Originally posted by Foaming Draught:
I ask again. We had a perfectly good café, with a devoted clientèle, why did you have to bust something which didn't need fixing? Whoever's responsible for this débâcle, are you so concerned with saving face that you won't roll back to a working system, or you can't?

IIRC the old cafe used software that had a subscription fee and that was part of the reason for replacing it. So "rolling back to a working system" would involve spending money.
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Wesley J

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If SoF'd like to charge an Cafe access fee, why not.

I'd just like to suggest, and with all due respect and in gratitude, that the Cafe might be made to work again, even in its present, imperfect form. Rather unexpectedly, I've come to like its current form and layout, with its typical SoF feel.

Apart from being more stable, all it'd need would be a few sounds (with the option to turn them off), e.g. for new person joining the chat, person leaving the chat, new message in main room, new private conversation, as well as perhaps a real time indicator, linked to the user's computer time. Finally, an option to sign 'be right back' or perhaps a brief message to write yourself, e.g. about when you'll be back would be warmly appreciated.

I'd like to express once more my gratitude to the Management, and to Melon, Gwaelod and Pease and everyone else involved, for their marvellous work in running the Ship, and I sincerely hope that we shall be able again soon, and to our heart's content, to uphold and strengthen our community via the live SoF Cafe. The Cafe for many is an essential element in building trust and community spirit on the good old Ship (may she sail forever!), and I thus feel its functioning ought to find due, and perhaps urgent, attention in due time.

Thank you very much for kindly considering our hearfelt plea. [Overused]

[ 13. February 2009, 14:36: Message edited by: Wesley J ]

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Daily weeping and gnashing of teeth begins for those left in outer darkness


[Waterworks]

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Alex Cockell

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FC, join us in Tumbleweed...
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quote:
Originally posted by Wesley J:
If SoF'd like to charge an Cafe access fee, why not.


And how d'you see this Cafe access fee working then?

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Thinks for a nanosecond

Badly.

[ 14. February 2009, 19:49: Message edited by: Doublethink ]

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Foaming Draught
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OK, let's drop the word "fee". And how d'you see this Café access working then?

FD

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I haven't been able to get in the past few times I have tried. I get the same message Zappa posted

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quote:
Originally posted by Foaming Draught:
OK, let's drop the word "fee". And how d'you see this Café access working then?

FD

There's never been a fee for using the cafe as far as I know. There used to be an annual membership fee for using the boards, but that was dropped years ago.

I thought this referred to the software licence fee that SoF would pay for attaching someone else's chatroom software to the site. That would certainly be payable but it's not usually a huge amount. However you wouldn't get the level of customization that there is on this one.

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Foaming Draught
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I think I prefer function to customisation. You'll tell me next that ontologically it's a chatroom, and that whether or not one can actually chat is neither here nor there.

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I have no view at all on it since it's quite a long time since I went in the SoF chat room - I just have this thing about factual accuracy. [Smile]

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Melon

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It should be back now. In addition to crashing in the normal way, every so often it crashes in an "I'm dead but I won't admit it" way. Pease is planning to fix this by using stronger café-killer on restart.

The sounds have been ordered, and I hope we'll have them in the next few weeks.

We've started work on getting our new server code working with the café.

As to the %s error, it's almost certainly speech being interpreted as a printf string somewhere. The odd thing is that we found and fixed a bug like that, but porting that fix to the café doesn't seem to have made any difference. At this point it's likely to get fixed when we swap in the new server code.

I'm not sure what charging a fee to enter the café would change, but if the idea would make some of you feel better I'll be glad to give you my PayPal details.

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Thanks Melon [Big Grin]
Yep, it's working and I've wandered in, but there's no-one here so I'll have to talk to myself - either that or go and do something outrageous like work or the ironing!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Melon:
...I'm not sure what charging a fee to enter the café would change, but if the idea would make some of you feel better I'll be glad to give you my PayPal details.

Don't believe him, folks. I once tried to compensate him for services and he made me donate it to an evangelical group. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Gort:
he made me donate it to an evangelical group. [Big Grin]

Acolytes Anonymous???

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[Killing me] I'm not at liberty to say. I've probably embarrassed him enough.

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Fell over with the following URL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Children%27s_games

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Well that didn't last long. It's down again.
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Up again, like a randy politician's trousers after the division bell ...

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quote:
Originally posted by Gort:
I once tried to compensate him for services and he made me donate it to an evangelical group. [Big Grin]

I promise that if Grits tries to pay me lots of money I'll make her donate it to a liberal group.

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I've just uploaded a new version that should automatically update you when you next enter the cafe.

This new version stops the % character from ever being sent as speech so the server doesn't get upset.

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Gee, Gwaelod, I was sort of enjoying the Cafe until you typed that.

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All is forgiven. It is working again. [Big Grin]

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Crashed. Dunno what happened.

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Must have been you, Wes. We are all still here. (Your avatar is too.)

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Down again? Was in with several shippies, then my entries stopped showing up.

Exited, started again. Just stays on login screen.

the relevant part of the logging window appears to be:
code:
Round trip = 203 milliseconds
Buffer position = 0
Received XML = '<xcr:message category="term" message_id="registered_login_failed">Login attempt failed</xcr:message>'
Disconnected



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lily pad
Shipmate
# 11456

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We are still in.

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Sloppiness is not caring. Fussiness is caring about the wrong things. With thanks to Adeodatus!

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Melon

Ship's desserter
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If you get anything back from the server, it's running. That message looks to me like there was a problem with your username or password.

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French Whine

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lily pad
Shipmate
# 11456

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So, is there somewhere on this site to make confessions?

I had just agreed with Sioni that even Myrrh must be right sometimes.

Seems the Cafe just couldn't cope with that and crashed.

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Sioni Sais
Shipmate
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I thought it was me! I had just tried to register to register on another site - could that have done it?

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Sioni Sais
Shipmate
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In again!

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