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Eutychus
From the edge
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OK, it works here, but at least on my display the "small" font is illegible.
Can the chat window be made bigger and the icons smaller? There's not much room for text and I imagine that if there are quite a few people having a discussion, it's going to be really hard to keep track with so few sentences being visible at once.
In the meantime, congratulations for getting the whole thing afloat!
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aj
firewire technophobe
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All working now...
Thanks folks
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Jillyb
Shipmate
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I'm enjoying a nice chat in the new cafe but there seems to be a problem with the scrolling - it seems to slow down then stop altogether for a while then everything whizzes past and it's moving again.
Also, if you doubleclick to change rooms a message comes up saying room change failed yet you are in fact in the room you clicked on.
It's good to have a cafe again ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Gwaelod
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
Can the chat window be made bigger and the icons smaller? There's not much room for text and I imagine that if there are quite a few people having a discussion, it's going to be really hard to keep track with so few sentences being visible at once.
The Decaff option makes the icons so small you can't see them - this maximises the space for text. I will look at the font size settings in the next release of the software.
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jlg
What is this place?
Why am I here?
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Originally posted by Gwaelod:
Okay, I think I've got to the bottom of the 'login with small usernames' issue. There's now a slightly updated version on the server - when you next run the cafe software it should automatically update.
Hurrah! I was finally allowed in. Thanks so much.
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Eutychus
From the edge
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Here's my take on the PM problem (having played around with this with Curiosity Killed...).
If you open a PM with someone, hitting 'return' when the PM window is active grabs any text the other person was typing in the main café text entry box. It puts everything they type after you hit return in the PM window and leaves the first part languishing in the main café text entry box. It's a great way to interrupt anyone you choose ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif)
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Eutychus
From the edge
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Some more comments:
Not having selectable text (let alone links) is a pain because you can't refer people easily to threads under discussion. Also some discussion at present about making the "rooms" view the first one you encounter to get a good overview.
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Gracious rebel
Rainbow warrior
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Well I finally plucked up courage to change my password to something I knew (using Golden Key's method) and I got in fine. Agree about the chat boxes taking up lots of room - I tried small text but it was unreadable!
Nice interface though. Well done. I was never a cafe user before, but since ours has been offline I've begun to dabble in chat on another site, so feel a bit more comfortable about this sort of environment now - I'll probably be back!
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Geneviève
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yes, nice to see you and your socks there, gr
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Golden Key
Shipmate
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Thanks for all the hard work! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
I just tried the new cafe. It's pretty, though all the bright colors will take some getting used to.
Nice to have multiple rooms again, and nice touch with Molly and Gambit.
A few problems, IMHO:
--The text in the text box at the bottom doesn't enlarge when you choose the "very large" setting for text. I could barely see what I was typing. It was giving me a headache, so I left.
--On the room list, there's no defined place to click. Nothing underlines or lights up, and the pointer doesn't change. Confusing.
--There aren't any emoticons.
--No sound.
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monkeylizard
Ship's scurvy
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WOW! I like it. Very nice.
Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems that the only way to know everyone who's in the Cafe is to visit each room and see who's in it, one room at a time.
It could be helpful once a large number gets in to see a listing of users in each room w/o having to enter/leave each one.
Can the rooms list on the left be made to expand and show the shipmates in each room?
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Paul.
Shipmate
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Some sort of way of marking your status would be helpful - if you could mark yourself as "away" or "brb" or similar it would let others know that you were not actively watching that window rather than simply ignoring them.
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Lolly
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My issues have been resolved. Thank you for all of your hard work.
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jedijudy
Organist of the Jedi Temple
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WooHoo!!! Well done!
You who put the Cafe together are "Da Bomb"!
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Emma-Jean
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I got in! I got in! Sooo pretty, I like. Especially the Gator Lounge, reminds me of those fun times when Erin would come into the cafe to play with a troll
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Autenrieth Road
Shipmate
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Wierd. I was trotting through the rooms quickly (for fun: to see their descriptions), and got stuck in Ship's Mess. I'd gone Bridge, Bar, Locker, Bilge, Chapel, Mess, and tried to click on Lounge, but didn't get transported to Lounge. The rooms all do turn yellow when I mouse over them.
In the room list it says there's 1 in Chapel, which I'm wondering if it's me. There are 2 on the Bridge (same 2 as when I came in I expect), and 0 everywhere else -- including 0 for Mess where I am currently!
The main window isn't responding to things I type to Chat, or trying to move rooms. The top buttons: The Rooms, Who's Here?, and Welcome all work, as does Decaff. The logger is only posting very abbreviated forms of what I'm trying to do, instead of the lengthy gobs of stuff it listed when I changed rooms successfully. It has a full listing for me for Chapel, but only partial for Mess, and then goes ultra-brief.
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Truth
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Autenrieth Road
Shipmate
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Closed the Cafe, came right back in, everything's working again (ran around the rooms twice but this time everything is fine).
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Truth
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Penny Lane
Shipmate
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Looks good. Once I looked up my login info, I had no prob getting in.
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jlg
What is this place?
Why am I here?
# 98
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Two comments:
The color contrast on the blue scroll-bar isn't clearly contrasted enough. I keep trying to pull it down and then realize the little bubble I'm looking at is the actual active part, not the 'future' I'm attempting to access.
I noted previous complaints about the slowness of the scrolling and while I'm not exactly sure about what the others were experiencing, I think I'm experiencing the same 'hesitations'.
When I was in with only one other active shipmate, all comments appeared so quickly after hitting ENTER that I was amazed. With four of us interacting I feel like I'm posting in glue.
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Potoroo
Shipmate
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I was able to get in! Thank you, all who made the new Chat Ship possible.
The conversation box seems very small...I agree with Eutychus:
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
Can the chat window be made bigger and the icons smaller? There's not much room for text and I imagine that if there are quite a few people having a discussion, it's going to be really hard to keep track with so few sentences being visible at once.
In the meantime, congratulations for getting the whole thing afloat!
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Eleanor Jane
Shipmate
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Awesome- well done all who created it! It's working really well technically, basically no glitches at all.
Just one thought- does anyone else see the Ship as a big old fashioned wooden sailing ship? I'm sure people have mentioned nice piratical things like walking the plank, and pirates and rum and stuff... If so, maybe we could change the picture from a modern(ish) looking steamer.
Feel free to keel haul me if you don't like that idea...
EJ
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jlg
What is this place?
Why am I here?
# 98
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Originally posted by jlg:
With four of us interacting I feel like I'm posting in glue.
It picked up again, but when I wanted to scroll back to check on what someone had said, it was Molasses Land once again. The others reported no problems.
I'm using Windows XP Home Edition (2002?) and Mozilla Firefox (of some vintage) and at least Java 1.5 (might be Java 1.6 - I haven't been able to determine whether it successfully loaded or not).
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Melon
Ship's desserter
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A few people have mentioned the 'slowing to a crawl after scrolling back' problem. Could those who have done so describe the symptoms (and also what operating system they are using)?
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Dee.
Ship's Theological Acrobat
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Cool
I got in,
of course there is no one around to say hi to...but its really cool and I will be back for a yarn at some stage.
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Ancient Mariner
Sip the ship
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Cafe has held up well all day. More invited to come in and bash it about a bit... ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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sabine
Shipmate
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I know others have posted about the speech bubbles, but I think they are going to keep me away from the cafe.
If there are more than two people posting, the bubbles disappear in a split second, so it's very hard to keep reading. Some things just get lost. And scrolling up to read just means that you lose what's currently being posted. And if you have more than a two-word response to type, the original post is lost to sight.
Is there any way to make more space for the posts?
It has not been a very satisfying experience for me, and I don't feel much like repeating it.
And I used to love chatting. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
sabine
[ 17. March 2008, 18:00: Message edited by: sabine ]
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Autenrieth Road
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Do you have it in a very small window sabine? I make mine as tall as the computer screen, and somewhat wider (though not full width) than it first shows up. So quite a few bubbles can fit at once, even with longer replies in them.
I agree in general the more responses can be fit vertically the better. I'm in love with the visuals of the new cafe though so I haven't yet gotten to a point where I feel like stuff is scrolling off too fast (which can happen either because lots of people are posting, and/or because one is doing other things at the same time and catching up in spurts, rather than watching each post like a hawk).
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Truth
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Ancient Mariner
Sip the ship
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Yes, your window must be minimised Sabine because I can comfortably view 10 sentences at any one time on my screen. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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frin
Drinking coffee for Jesus
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Perhaps the room list ought to have a note that double clicking a room lets you enter it.
'frin
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lily pad
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by Melon:
A few people have mentioned the 'slowing to a crawl after scrolling back' problem. Could those who have done so describe the symptoms (and also what operating system they are using)?
If you scroll back placing your curser in the white space it is slow motion. If you grab the slider with your curser and scroll it is normal.
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lily pad
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by lily pad:
quote:
Originally posted by Melon:
A few people have mentioned the 'slowing to a crawl after scrolling back' problem. Could those who have done so describe the symptoms (and also what operating system they are using)?
If you scroll back placing your curser in the white space it is slow motion. If you grab the slider with your curser and scroll it is normal.
Sorry, is normal speed when clicking on white space and is slow motion when clicking on the up and down arrows. When I leave the arrow depressed, it scrolls by very slowly.
I am using Firefox.
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Caty S.
I read, therefore I am.
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Just been thrown overboard:
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Cannot read XML from server (org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: Element type "user_coun" must be followed by either attribute specifications, ">" or "/>".)
com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.parsers.DOMParser : parse at line -1
com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.jaxp.DocumentBuilderImpl : parse at line -1
javax.xml.parsers.DocumentBuilder : parse at line -1
uk.co.darkgreenmedia.faverolle.SocketComms : processData at line 296
uk.co.darkgreenmedia.faverolle.SocketComms : run at line 138
java.lang.Thread : run at line -1
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Sioni Sais
Shipmate
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Is the cafe dead for others atm?
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Caty S.
I read, therefore I am.
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I can't get back in, Sioni
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Autenrieth Road
Shipmate
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Nope. I did have a slow patch just now, but don't know if that was my computer. By the time I did my "workarounds for forcing my other windows to display when one window is hogging focus and doing nothing", and cycled back to the cafe, it was normal again.
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Truth
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balaam
Making an ass of myself
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caty, your avatar uis still in the café.
You probably can't get in because the software thinks you're already there.
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Sioni Sais
Shipmate
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Am I there? I can't get back in.
(nb, I'm using Firefox)
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balaam
Making an ass of myself
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Why do you enter a room by single clicking the map, yet double clicking the room name. A little inconsistant, especially as double clicking the map produces an error message.
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Caty S.
I read, therefore I am.
# 11996
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And now I can get back in. Hooray!
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Eutychus
From the edge
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Doesn't work from my laptop.
The first time I tried it crashed the whole system.
The second time, it downloaded the app but then refused to open it because it could not verify the certificate with no corrective action (that I could find) possible.
Tried turning on and off my firewall to no avail. Running the latest version of Java, XP and Firefox.
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Horatio Harumph
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or did have ...
sorry curiosity ... thing went even weirder on me, so signed out
only now i cant sign back in, it wont seem to let me
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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Just managed to do the same thing. IngoB set up a room with an odd name. I switched between The Rooms and Who's Here? menus and got stuck there. I had no headings, no chat window, just the avatars of those on board and the bit that lets you post on the chat board. I could set up private chat, and the stuff I posted in the box apparently appeared in the chat room, but I couldn't see anything of it.
Signing out and signing in again fixed it
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IngoB
Sentire cum Ecclesia
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
Just managed to do the same thing. IngoB set up a room with an odd name.
It's a reproducible error: just use a very long room name (I used a few hundred random chars). Then when anyone clicks on "Who's there" (including the person owning the room), one is dumped into a corrupt window as described by Curiosity killed...
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