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Doc Tor
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Originally posted by Auntie Doris:
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I've found out who else is on my amazingly-cool-subject panel. Not only will I be completely outgunned, but it'll be the biggest gig I've ever been part of.
If I don't ![[Projectile]](graemlins/puke2.gif) it'll be a miracle.
Are you going to tell us then?
Auntie Doris x
It's only a few days to wait until the programme is published. Suffice to say I'm on stage with Robin Ince in Centaur.
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Well, as always I'm far more excited at the prospect of camping than by any of the lineup. ![[Smile]](smile.gif) Still, I'm curious to see how the ABC comes over in the flesh so to speak....I quite like him even if I need an icepack round the head to be able to begin to understand a word he writes.
And I'll try to check out Jane Mason (promised my son; he has a thing about bread) ![[Cool]](cool.gif) Personally, I think a Nice Cup of Tea is The Answer, but I'm willing to have my horizons widened.
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I see they've just added Frank Skinner to the line-up.
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Originally posted by Miffy:
Still, I'm curious to see how the ABC comes over in the flesh so to speak....I quite like him even if I need an icepack round the head to be able to begin to understand a word he writes.
Heard him speak on Sunday morning at a service here in the Forest. I would not have bothered to go, but we Readers were 'Three Line Whipped' to attend, in our robes. At the time, I thought he spoke well, but I can not remember anything he said! Last time I heard him speak, I fell asleep. So it was an improvement!
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We put down a deposit on a campervan (hideous modern jobbie, to hire) yesterday. The job of babysitting Baby Spouse during the Proclaimers is hereby put out to tender.
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We suddenly have a spare under 18s ticket as one of our party broke a leg and won't be able to come. Happy to pass it on, if someone else can use it - it was at June deadline prices, so £5 less than onsite prices.
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I also have a spare adult weekend camping ticket for Greenbelt which I now can't use. I have already received the wrist band so could post it out straight away. I paid June prices for it but will consider all (sensible) offers
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We may have a spare child's (under 18)weekend ticket if anyone's interested - for early bird price of £55 (now £65 I think. Pls PM me if interested!
Still think I've got that spare ticket to pass on (youngest daughter really not keen to come!) and have wristband now so could post on straight away - all reasonable offers considered!
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Dafyd
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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
It's only a few days to wait until the programme is published. Suffice to say I'm on stage with Robin Ince in Centaur.
Are you going to spill the beans yet for those of us who can't come this year? Go on.
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Miffy
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Originally posted by chukovsky:
We put down a deposit on a campervan (hideous modern jobbie, to hire) yesterday. The job of babysitting Baby Spouse during the Proclaimers is hereby put out to tender.
I'd be interested to know how warm it is inside. We hired (ye olde retro) campervan in 2010 and were absolutely freezing! Mind you it was a really cold GB overall that year. I see the 10 day forecast isn't too bad temperature wise this time round, although we're due for rain from Thursday onwards, apparently.
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Doc Tor
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Originally posted by Dafyd:
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Originally posted by Doc Tor:
It's only a few days to wait until the programme is published. Suffice to say I'm on stage with Robin Ince in Centaur.
Are you going to spill the beans yet for those of us who can't come this year? Go on.
Programme's out, so:
"Visions of the Future" Centaur, 11.00am Monday. See a world-famous stand-up comic, and a professional futurologist set out their vision of utopia, circa 2040, and the audience votes on their favourite using a huge human Venn diagram. While all this is going on, some B-list SF author no-one's heard of will be making an idiot of himself on the same stage.
If I'm not hurling into a bucket by Monday morning, it'll be because I've been too nervous to eat anything all weekend.
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Hope it goes well Doc.
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There is at least one Shipmeet being organised over in another place at the moment. It would seem to be at 7pm Saturday Night at the Tiny Tea Tent.
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Well I am going. Not too sure how that happened.
Looking at the Greenbelt App, which is very useful, I don't think the ABC is there. It is another Rowan Williams.
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Looking at the Greenbelt App, which is very useful, I don't think the ABC is there. It is another Rowan Williams.
Yes, that's right. They originally put up the wrong (ABC's) profile and then changed it when people started to get a bit excited on the facebook groups!
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It is this Rowan Williams.
Although as the ABC is a patron of Greenbelt I wouldn't have been surprised if he was there.
There are at least two shipmeets on site - the one that I will be at is at 7pm at the Tiny tea Tent on Saturday as I said further up this thread. Please come and identify yourself.
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From what I understand, some of the acts who play Greenbelt are pretty good. I was wondering - who would we need to lobby about getting a major broadcaster in there to cover the event?
You know - the way the BBC cover Glastonbury?
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Yangtze
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Golly, no-one has checked in on this thread yet. Well there was a deluge of biblical proportions on Sat but I've seen a fair few Shippies since so I think we're all still here.
Sorry I missed the Shipmeet, was on shift.
Have been having a blast this GB. Highlights as always are the people but have also enjoyed Lucy Winkett, June Boyce-Tillman on Hildegard of Bingen, 'Beer, Mass & Benediction', Hope & Social and of course a few pints of Jonah & the Ale and Bad Christian in the Jesus Arms.
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Oooooh... first post-GB post ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Well, for what it's worth, here's some thoughts from me;
Worship: Moved, challenged and encouraged by the communion service.
Music: Have never heard Folk On before, but they're great!
Politics: Douglas Alexander MP for Prime Minister (and I think I want to marry Stella Creasy... ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif) )
Talks: I really enjoyed the God is... series; very engaging and interesting. Some more in-depth thoughts here.
What did everyone else like?
Oh and there was a lot of mud - at least it means I've brought part of the festival home with me...
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Who knew that so much water could move from up there to down here is so short a time.
Just back. Tired (despite the fact that I was in a hotel room, and slept well. I am still exhausted), but loved it, and feel very energised.
Yesterday I spent 6 hours at the very front of the mainstage, going through Karin Polwart, Seth Lakeman (did any performer have a more apt name?), The Imagined Village and Bellowhead.
My head has not stopped ringing.
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Alex - the BBC are there in lots of guises. Including Question Time on Friday. But although it has lots of good acts it isn't Glastonbury and I don't think it wants to be either.
We came home early on Monday night, like Schrodingers Cat we were in a hotel room but were still worn out. I think that the site coped quite well considering monsoon levels of rain and subsequent lakes of mud.
Highlights for us - well not much really Beer and Benediction followed by procession with the Blessed Sacrament, Richard Coles and The Paper Cinema.
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Mud. Lots and lots of mud. We got the small boys home to their Grandmother, and coped with oceans of mud quite happily at first, but eventually gave in and came home.
Really grateful for the Angels Lounge- comfy seats and tea.
The Make and Take was wonderful- Little Weed and I mad a fabulous monkey- well he thought it was wonderful anyway.
I spent a lot of quality time with my God daughters, so it was great. Brief chat with the Alien and Pants.
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Auntie Doris
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PaulW and I aren't quite home yet as we are stopping in Bath for a couple of nights.
Yangtze - June Boyce-Tillman was my choir mistress at college in Winchester. She is bonkers and positively scared the living daylights out of me.
Camping was pretty interesting this year. The monsoon conditions on Saturday made it quite challenging to get about at times but we survived.
Doing GB st 6 months pregnant is pretty knackering anyway.
Highlight for me was seeing the lovely Peterson Toscano of course, but also dancing in the puddles with the children to Bellowhead last night. That cheered me up no end.
I just love seeing all my friends there anyway.
Auntie Doris x
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Stowaway
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My highlights at the moment: Nitin Sawhney, Seth Lakeman, Bellowhead.
NT Wright, the Greenbelt App that made planning so much simpler (No I didn't write it).
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We had a truly fantastic time this year. So much on for the children (we went to a "show" each day) and fantastic fun in the mud. We were fortunate to either be in the tiny tea or the performance cafe for the rainy bits.
However we aren't planning on camping next year...
Any recommendations for budget hotels/ B and B/ anything? I've looked at Travellodge but it looks like they only take bookings up until July 2013.
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I'm back home but my poor little tent isn't. Sprung a leak in the floor on Saturday night/Sunday morning and struggled to stay dry. managed it but I needed a long, hot bath which I just had!
Highlights for me The Imagined Village, the beer tend on the last night (as always), and maybe Peter Tatchell's talk on wealth tax. Which had a strangely serendipitious synchronicity with the talk on poverty by some bloke from Christian Aid, and the contribution to the visions of the future panel (game? talk? show? seminar?) by Doc Tor of this parish. Though that gets a little purgatorial for this thread.
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Had a great time - despite the mud and rain!
With a 3 year old in tow we mainly went to all-age worship - of which there was quite a lot, and which was (mostly!) good. A highlight again (as it was last year) was the all-age service from Visions on Friday night - shame they didn't get a better slot.
The Roots services were good as well. John Polkinghorne was on good form, and Rend Collective were great!
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I hope all your tents that got so wet will be reasonably able to dry at home and stay water-proof for the next time you camp. I always put the water-proofing stuff on our tents to keep them dry - many are old.
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Originally posted by Emma Louise:
We had a truly fantastic time this year. So much on for the children (we went to a "show" each day) and fantastic fun in the mud. We were fortunate to either be in the tiny tea or the performance cafe for the rainy bits.
However we aren't planning on camping next year...
Any recommendations for budget hotels/ B and B/ anything? I've looked at Travellodge but it looks like they only take bookings up until July 2013.
I stayed in the Central Hotel, 20 minutes walk straight into town.
Reasonably cheap, but I wouldn't stay there again. It was half to 1 star, but for others it might be ideal. The nearness was useful, as I could walk up to the site each day.
Oh, and they only did B, no breakfast, as I found out when I arrived. But they provided microwave and fridge, so it was not a problem.
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iamchristianhearmeroar
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Wonderful Greenbelt as ever. Nothing could be done about the weather and mercifully our tent kept the wind, the rain and the mud out. I thought the stewards and all other volunteers rose to their significantly more arduous task brilliantly.
My highlights were probably Aradhna (worship, although billed as music), John Dear (talks) and Bellowhead (music).
The abiding memory however will be (the mud and) kneeling before the Most Blessed Sacrament singing Journey's "Don't Stop Believing". Where else other than Greenbelt, eh?!
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Originally posted by iamchristianhearmeroar:
Wonderful Greenbelt as ever. Nothing could be done about the weather and mercifully our tent kept the wind, the rain and the mud out. I thought the stewards and all other volunteers rose to their significantly more arduous task brilliantly.
I think you're quite right about the stewards, etc and I thought that the organisers did a good job in difficult circumstances. I know it was pretty extreme downpours, but I was less impressed with the infrastructure of the racecourse - surely better drainage isn't beyond their capabilities, especially when buildings start flooding! If I were the Greenbelt organisers I think I'd be asking for money back and assurances that improvements would be made...
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The racecourse drainage worked perfectly. It took the water away from the track the horses run on. That's not where we were...
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Originally posted by Auntie Doris:
PaulW and I aren't quite home yet as we are stopping in Bath for a couple of nights.
I only needed one night in a bath to get rid of the mud - did you fall in a puddle?
My Greenbelt was really different in shape this year - it was the first time I was responsible for a group of children and that massively shaped what I attended, and it felt as though some days were all about cooking and washing up. We also spent Sunday trying to come up with a wet weather back-up plan for our outdoor Cream Tea Communion service on the Monday, fortunately the weather cooperated until after we had cleared the tea things away. Highlights were: The Proclaimers, Grace Petrie, comedian James Acaster, and the only proper talk I got to - Abdul-Rehman Malik on 72 Virgins and Islamic ideas of Paradise. My would be highlight was the Roots stage, which I discovered by accident as we loaded the car with baskets of leftovers after our communion. I saw Ken there, but did anyone else even know it existed?
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Yes, I wandered past the Roots stage a couple of times. One time there was a guy singing a funny song about IKEA and later on there was a band doing some lively, well-known worship songs to a small, but appreciative audience. And a nephew of a friend of mine got a slot there to do his slam poetry, but I missed that as I was tending the cooking so they could watch him.
My highlights were the L'Arche service, Rend Collective, the Folk-On gig on mainstage and the play "Call Mr. Robeson". And thankfully my tent kept dry the whole time.
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Graham R - you can't design for that kind of downpour - buildings flood when they are at the bottom of hills. Money back - why because it rained?
We left early on Monday evening but not before buying our tickets for next year. We thought it was important to encourage GB in difficult times.
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Yesterday I spent 6 hours at the very front of the mainstage, going through Karin Polwart, Seth Lakeman (did any performer have a more apt name?), The Imagined Village and Bellowhead.
Well quite possibly we were bopping around next to each other without realising, as that's where I was as well. At least for Karine and Imagined Village. I had fully intended to be there all the way through, but I realised I really needed food, so missed Seth and then got tempted by Abigail Washburn in Performance Cafe so only made the end of Bellowhead from the back.
Still, funny to think I was probably next to another Shippie without realising. Do you ever do Shipmeets? Would be nice to meet.
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Originally posted by Yangtze:
Well quite possibly we were bopping around next to each other without realising, as that's where I was as well. At least for Karine and Imagined Village.
Me too, for Imagined Village. Well,maybe not exactly bopping, but swaying in time to the music. I know I have your image in some photos (or at any rate the shoulder of your waterproof top), perhaps I have the Cat's as well?
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I have done shipmeets, but not for many years. And I assiduously track down all pictures of me and destroy them.....
I did talk to the people next to me, if they seemed friendly. During TIV and Bellowhead, I was next to a youth group, so I don't think you were in that. For Seth Lakeman and Karine, I was next to a lady with two daughters, one called Laura who played double bass. So if that was you, hello.......
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I disliked it more than usual this year.
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I was not impressed with the communion. I think, as so often, that it tries to be a slightly different communion service, for 10-15K people, and it doesn't work - this was my third greenbelt, and I have never known it to really work well.
I would have liked to have seen a far more innovative and challenging event - not service. I would have liked better use of the space, more things happening, an event that reflected the wonderfully weird nature of the people who tend to attend.
Frank Skinner made an interesting comment, that he had avoided coming for many years, because he thought the attendees might be "weird". I understand the feeling, but Greenbelters are actually very normal people. Often weird Christians, but that is the same thing.
The communion was far more "normal Christian" and less "Greenbelt".
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Interesting report - I don't think I agree with the writer. The teenagers in our group said it was one of the better services they had been to and that they enjoyed it. There was a clear lead for the singing, which hasn't always been the case.
I think it is a case of you can't please all the people ...
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I would have liked to have seen a far more innovative and challenging event - not service. I would have liked better use of the space, more things happening, an event that reflected the wonderfully weird nature of the people who tend to attend.
I would love it to be more weird, but I think then even fewer people would like it than currently do! I agree that the diversity of the festival isn't really reflected in the Communion. In the worship pageant, for example, there was Aradhna, Andy Flanagan, Feig, and loads of others all in the presence of the Most Blessed Sacrament, which I and others had processed behind all around the festival site. That's more like it!
I also find it difficult to justify a mark of 1/10. I have been to many dire services, none of which I would give only 1/10. Perhaps I just inexplicably enjoy going to church whatever happens!
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I think there was enough innovative & challenging forms of worship elsewhere at Greenbelt for those that wanted to find it. For me, the Communion Service is more about celebrating the fact that there are so many of us (compared to the 60 or so at the church I attend), and that on the whole people are just glad to be there. I read enough in Eccles to know that for some people if it isn't done in a certain way, it isn't proper. I'm glad Greenbelt isn't like that!
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Kat in the Hat - I get what you mean. There are other places to experience and learn from very way-out worship. But there is a place, I think, in the main communion, to simply use the space and area better, and to explore things that you might be able to integrate into a more normal worship service.
Or maybe that is what they did, and I just find "normal" worship uninspiring.
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take out this broken heart and renew my mind.
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The Kat in the Hat
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Well I know we don't normally blow bubbles in a church service - so maybe it is that we have different views on what is considered "normal".
I do think they try & do the best they can, given the circumstances. They are open to suggestions, so if you have an idea, why not share it?
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busyknitter
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Indeed the bubbles were good fun but citing the bit of the service intended to keep small children happy as its best feature is a serious case of damning with faint praise.
I honestly don't mind weird but can't be doing with rewriting the eucharistic prayer using so much environmental imagery as if the sin of causing climate change were all that mattered.
And the Piece for Voices was just plain dull.
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