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quetzalcoatl
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There are some interesting combinations here: women with big fannies don't like small dicks; men with small dicks like tight fannies; tight fannies like medium sized dicks; medium sized dicks just take what they can get. Everybody's happy.
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Pyx_e
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quote: Originally posted by IntellectByProxy: I jumped straight to page 3 and THAT was the first post. Left me feeling strangely dirty......
..... and as ever "challenged."
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alienfromzog
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quote: Originally posted by Evensong: Do you have a small dick?
I don't recall specifically saying you did not care about child abuse as much as I did.
I just disagreed with your method and I think small dick syndrome and projection took over from there.
quote: Originally posted by Evensong: Then I recommend you offer suggestions on how best to help these children rather than just give those of us that see the serious evil in the problem such a hard time for our passion.
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quote: Originally posted by Evensong: I don't recall specifically critiquing the child abuse survivor on her methods of survival at all.
Survivial methods are precisely that. They help survival. They have no right or wrong about them.
quote: Originally posted by Evensong: quote: Originally posted by alienfromzog's supposed friend: What goes on within the family is ‘normal’, normalising and minimizing is the only way to survive, especially as others may be aware and also ignore it.
Herein lies the problem
It is not normal. And is it really surviving? <SNIP> quote: Originally posted by alienfromzog [quoting my friend]: For a child to be willing to disclose, they either need to be at breaking point, fully accept it isn’t normal and accept that the ‘backlash’ of telling won’t necessarily make life any easier.
Mmmnnn.....that doesn't sound like the viewpoint of a child. That sounds like an older person speaking.
As to accepting "it is not normal": however painful that might be at the time, it may be the less painful option in the long run.
Evensong, please show me where either Curiosity or I suggested we should normalise sexual abuse? I think you might struggle with that one.
What we've been trying to say is that the demonisation of abusers and simplistic horrified self-righteous indignation is counter-productive. Mainly because it is.
However, if insulting me makes you feel better then please feel free to carry on.
AFZ
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Loquacious beachcomber
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quote: Originally posted by alienfromzog: quote: Originally posted by Loquacious beachcomber: Of course, I realize that the Hell thread does not exist solely to entertain and amuse Shipmates, but...
Loquacious, I enjoy a good popcorn-eating Hell thread as much as the next alien and whilst Evensong has displayed pseudo-Troll* behaviour, I feel your comments are inappropriate.
The topic under debate here is extremely sensitive and... VARIOUS SELF-RIGHTEOUS BLATHER
So, I'm sorry for the lack of entertainment but I think you're on the wrong thread for that.
AFZ
Ummmm - maybe there is another reason why I find Evensong's Hell calls in general and this one in particular to be tedious, annoying, and almost completely pointless. [ 01. November 2012, 18:10: Message edited by: Loquacious beachcomber ]
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Curiosity killed ...
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Loquacious beachcomber, Hell threads are not here to entertain you. In fact, Sioni Sais as the newest Hell host is asking Purgatorial discussion gets taken to Purgatory. If you really want your own Hell thread, I'm sure someone will oblige.
And Evensong obviously hadn't got an argument back here. She's just attention seeking. So long as it's all about her ...
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Loquacious beachcomber
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quote: Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...: Loquacious beachcomber, In fact, Sioni Sais as the newest Hell host is asking Purgatorial discussion gets taken to Purgatory.
Not one thing I said above had anything to do with Purgatory discussions, so I am certain Sioni wasn't talking to me - okay?
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Sioni Sais
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Your attention please:
i) While I might not be talking to anyone in particular, I have to read everything you post. Pass the Optrex.
ii) Hell only needs a certain amount of hosting. Support welcome, but do let the Hosts do it.
I'm off for a smoke and a rubdown now.
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claret10
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quote: Originally posted by alienfromzog: However, if insulting me makes you feel better then please feel free to carry on.
AFZ
Feeling a bit crap today so...
You are a smelly green alien with stupid antenae. Your brain is too big for your head
quote: Originally posted by alienfromzog: 2) Now have a fantastic image of you with a bowler hat and a pitch-fork combination. (Kind of an English demon...)
As an english person i take huge offence at your arogant assumption that we all where bowler hats. How dare you be so presumtious and ignorant.
Mmmmmm now i feel so much better
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claret10
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quote: Originally posted by claret10: quote: Originally posted by alienfromzog: However, if insulting me makes you feel better then please feel free to carry on.
AFZ
Feeling a bit crap today so...
You are a smelly green alien with stupid antenae. Your brain is too big for your head. It must look very strange beside your small dick.
quote: Originally posted by alienfromzog: 2) Now have a fantastic image of you with a bowler hat and a pitch-fork combination. (Kind of an English demon...)
As an english person i take huge offence at your arogant assumption that we all where bowler hats. How dare you be so presumtious and ignorant.
Mmmmmm now i feel so much better
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Loquacious beachcomber
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On reflection, I also have my "hot button" issues; gun control being at the top of the list. To those on the thread whom I have offended by failing to recognize that they, too, have hot button issues, I sincerely apologize.
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Moo
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quote: Originally posted by Loquacious beachcomber: Ummmm - maybe there is another reason why I find Evensong's Hell calls in general and this one in particular to be tedious, annoying, and almost completely pointless.
Have you considered not clicking on them, or leaving them as soon as you find them tedious?
Moo
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Kelly Alves
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Well, really, there's no law saying you can't hang out on a thread that bores you.
There's no law saying you can't bite the inside of your cheek over and over again, either, but some people do that, too.
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alienfromzog
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quote: Originally posted by Loquacious beachcomber: On reflection, I also have my "hot button" issues; gun control being at the top of the list. To those on the thread whom I have offended by failing to recognize that they, too, have hot button issues, I sincerely apologize.
Thanks for that.
AFZ
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Loquacious beachcomber
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quote: Originally posted by Moo: quote: Originally posted by Loquacious beachcomber: Ummmm - maybe there is another reason why I find Evensong's Hell calls in general and this one in particular to be tedious, annoying, and almost completely pointless.
Have you considered not clicking on them, or leaving them as soon as you find them tedious?
Moo
I did better than that on this one, Moo; I got Curiosity Killed... alienfromzog and Evensong to agree on something, perhaps thereby allowing the thread to be closed!
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Zacchaeus
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I've been offline for best part of a week and I realise this hell call has moved on somewhat.
Nevertheless I have been pondering it and still felt inclined to tell Evensong she is talking out of her arse.
Evensong – the demonising of or hysteria (whatever you want to call it) about perpetrators of abuse is counter productive because:-
a) Demonising makes the abuser appear as ‘other’ and not ‘normal.’ Most abuse happens within families, who can fail to see that their ‘normal’ father/brother/uncle/insert relative of choice and not necessarily male, can possibly be an abuser because s/he is so ‘normal.’ Which may actually then create an environment where abuse can flourish.
b) Families are complicated organisms, which have complicated relationships, and the family will have complicated feelings about what is going on and about both the victim and abuser. Feelings they can have difficulty dealing with and coming to terms with, they won’t be able to reconcile their loved relative, with the idea of the abuser they will have internalised from the press, and may well not see what he does as the same as what they see in the press.
This sort of things you are talking about made it harder for me not easier, when I disclosed to my family that I had been abused by a relative. The wider family did actually believe me but instead of looking to help me, they were instantly looking to protect him from the sort of hysteria and demonization that we have seen in the press. Their concern was that he would be ‘picked up by the police, every time there was a sex crime,’ and it must be kept quiet so that HE did not suffer from the sort of pack mentality situations that we have seen in the press.
People need to hear and understand that abusers are normal looking people, who live apparently normal lives, doing normal things. The probably won’t look weird but will be indistinguishable from any body else.
If you really want to help victims go and talk to them and do some SERIOUS research – don’t just jump in with what appears from here to be from your own reactions to what happens.
Don’t bother coming back to quote some seminars you have been to, you obviously haven’t done enough research, as you are showing yourself up as knowing jack shit about it.
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Dark Knight
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Zacchaeus: I have no words. Evensong: please get it, now.
ETF: spelling [ 03. November 2012, 01:31: Message edited by: Dark Knight ]
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Evensong
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Zacchaeus. I believe responding to your very personal post in this forum would be wholly inappropriate so I'm not going to.
I will just say that I'm glad to hear your family believed you.
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Zacchaeus
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Cop out evensong.
I have never been able to decide whether you are a troll, one of those people who are book clever but people stupid, just like the sound of your own voice, or are so inflexible in thinking you can’t take in new ideas.
Whichever way, it doesn’t matter because you are trouble maker, and I am going to return to my usual policy of ignoring you because you talk a lot of bollocks.
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Zacchaeus
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Thanks dark knight - I am ok, now, I am a surviver.
At the risk of being unhellish, I worry that attitudes like evensongs, lead to people seeing abusers as 'some wierdo that is out there somewhere'.
Then they keep their kids locked up inside to keep them 'safe' when reality they may be locking their kids up with their abusers...
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Evensong
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quote: Originally posted by Zacchaeus: Whichever way, it doesn’t matter because you are trouble maker, and I am going to return to my usual policy of ignoring you because you talk a lot of bollocks.
* Silently thanks the lord for small mercies... *
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Boogie
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quote: Originally posted by Zacchaeus: At the risk of being unhellish, I worry that attitudes like evensongs, lead to people seeing abusers as 'some wierdo that is out there somewhere'.
Then they keep their kids locked up inside to keep them 'safe' when reality they may be locking their kids up with their abusers...
That's what this thread was about, although it quickly wandered off into other areas.
Listening to pop songs of the 60s and 70s, so many of them sang about 'little girl' as the endearment of choice.
This bothers me since the Jimmy Saville horrors.
But (I hope) I'm just over-thinking it.
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Niteowl
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quote: Originally posted by Boogie: quote: Originally posted by Zacchaeus: At the risk of being unhellish, I worry that attitudes like evensongs, lead to people seeing abusers as 'some wierdo that is out there somewhere'.
Then they keep their kids locked up inside to keep them 'safe' when reality they may be locking their kids up with their abusers...
That's what this thread was about, although it quickly wandered off into other areas.
Listening to pop songs of the 60s and 70s, so many of them sang about 'little girl' as the endearment of choice.
This bothers me since the Jimmy Saville horrors.
But (I hope) I'm just over-thinking it.
Not in all cases. One song referred to upthread from that era was quite explicit: Young Girl by Gary Puckett and the Union Gap. Not only do the lyrics describe the girl in question as "just a baby in disguise", but it puts the responsibility on the girl for whatever happens 'cause he just can't resist if she hangs around.
Corrected code. [ 03. November 2012, 12:19: Message edited by: Niteowl ]
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Anselmina
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quote: Originally posted by Evensong: Zacchaeus. I believe responding to your very personal post in this forum would be wholly inappropriate so I'm not going to.
I will just say that I'm glad to hear your family believed you.
But you did read the bit where Zacchaeus said his/her family believed him/her but didn't help him? Because they were too busy trying to protect the abuser from an hysterial reaction? That would seem to be the crucial part of that paragraph.
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mousethief
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quote: Originally posted by Evensong: quote: Originally posted by Zacchaeus: Whichever way, it doesn’t matter because you are trouble maker, and I am going to return to my usual policy of ignoring you because you talk a lot of bollocks.
* Silently thanks the lord for small mercies... *
It's all about you. Empathy of a wolverine.
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quote: Originally posted by mousethief: quote: Originally posted by Evensong: quote: Originally posted by Zacchaeus: Whichever way, it doesn’t matter because you are trouble maker, and I am going to return to my usual policy of ignoring you because you talk a lot of bollocks.
* Silently thanks the lord for small mercies... *
It's all about you. Empathy of a wolverine.
Come off it mousethief - she'd just exposed her human side: quote: Zacchaeus. I believe responding to your very personal post in this forum would be wholly inappropriate so I'm not going to.
and we were all completely convinced by it. There was no way she'd realised that she'd fallen to the wrong side of that line on which she likes to teeter, no sign at all. I mean, she hasn't even mentioned vaccination yet.
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comet
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quote: Originally posted by mousethief: Empathy of a wolverine.
lay off the wolverines. I know wolverines, wolverines are my friends. Evensong is no wolverine.
please. she's barely a weasel.
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Weasels are my friends. They eat mice. They eat rats. They eat tree rats (squirrels). They do a general clean-up of varmits. Then they move on.
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quote: Originally posted by no prophet: Weasels are my friends. They eat mice. They eat rats. They eat tree rats (squirrels). They do a general clean-up of varmits. Then they move on.
Yeah, that last sentence is crucial, though.
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Evensong
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quote: Originally posted by mousethief: quote: Originally posted by Evensong: quote: Originally posted by Zacchaeus: Whichever way, it doesn’t matter because you are trouble maker, and I am going to return to my usual policy of ignoring you because you talk a lot of bollocks.
* Silently thanks the lord for small mercies... *
It's all about you. Empathy of a wolverine.
He lays into me. I return the favor and I'm unempathetic?
You got a logic problem there.
Unless of course you believe Zacchaues should be immune from nasty responses when he dishes them out (for some odd reason) ?
Fuck that shit.
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Pyx_e
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quote: Originally posted by comet: quote: Originally posted by mousethief: Empathy of a wolverine.
lay off the wolverines. I know wolverines, wolverines are my friends. Evensong is no wolverine.
please. she's barely a weasel.
she would need three promotions to make it too weasel.
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Welease Woderwick
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quote: Originally posted by Pyx_e: quote: Originally posted by comet: quote: Originally posted by mousethief: Empathy of a wolverine.
lay off the wolverines. I know wolverines, wolverines are my friends. Evensong is no wolverine.
please. she's barely a weasel.
she would need three promotions to make it too weasel.
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As Resident Weasel [according to Her Smudgiekins] I'm not sure if I should be grateful or offended at that exchange.
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Welease Woderwick
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quote: Originally posted by Niteowl: ...but it puts the responsibility on the girl for whatever happens 'cause he just can't resist if she hangs around.
This brings in the broader issue about male sexuality and the inability of a fair proportion of men [but not all] to think with anything other than their dick - it is ALWAYS the fault of the victim, they obviously acted so provocatively.
The other approach is that of the disconnected penis - it was the dick that did it! Again the man is not responsible.
It is pure bollocks, of course, but it is not confined to just men that abuse.
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Taliesin
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quote: Originally posted by Evensong: quote: Originally posted by mousethief: quote: Originally posted by Evensong: quote: Originally posted by Zacchaeus: Whichever way, it doesn’t matter because you are trouble maker, and I am going to return to my usual policy of ignoring you because you talk a lot of bollocks.
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It's all about you. Empathy of a wolverine.
He lays into me. I return the favor and I'm unempathetic?
You got a logic problem there.
Unless of course you believe Zacchaues should be immune from nasty responses when he dishes them out (for some odd reason) ?
Fuck that shit.
For the love of Christ, Evensong, have you never heard of empathy or compassion? Z has been through hell. You're an alleged follower of Christ, to the point that you've actually been to college about it, or something.
Was it completely beyond you to just say something along the lines of 'I'm so sorry' and leave it at that??
I never knew that apologising was so fucking difficult. You make my ex-husband look sensitive, and that's crazy shit.
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daronmedway
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This thread isn't working. Time to leave it I think.
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Curiosity killed ...
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Define working.
Working as in changing Evensong's mind? Who knows. She's not going to admit being wrong, that's not part of her Ship's persona*
Working as in allowing those Shipmates who want to make clear they don't share her views? Maybe acting as a safety valve for others.
Working as in signalling to other Shipmates that Evensong is found irritating and self-obsessed by others on the Ship?
Working as in providing a thread that really is all about Evensong so she doesn't feel the need to take over yet another Hell thread? Acting as containment?
* optimistic I know - but there's always the hope that her Ship postings reflect a deliberately provocative persona
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quote: Originally posted by Taliesin: Was it completely beyond you to just say something along the lines of 'I'm so sorry' and leave it at that??
It is, it was, and it probably always will be.
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daronmedway
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quote: Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...: Define working.
Having the desired affect.
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mousethief
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quote: Originally posted by Evensong: He lays into me. I return the favor and I'm unempathetic?
He laid into you BECAUSE you're unempathetic, you amnesiac mouth-breathing weasel.
quote: Originally posted by daronmedway: quote: Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...: Define working.
Having the desired affect.
What would you say the desired effect was, out of curiosity? [ 04. November 2012, 16:42: Message edited by: mousethief ]
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daronmedway
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quote: Originally posted by mousethief: quote: Originally posted by daronmedway: quote: Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...: Define working.
Having the desired affect.
What would you say the desired effect was, out of curiosity?
It reminds me of this party political poster from the late 70s. It's not working on so many levels.
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Zacchaeus
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Well as I accept, that evensong will never admit, that view other than her own might be valid, the desired effect for me is that others might see she really doesn’t know what she is talking about.
However I don’t know how we can ever judge whether my desired effect has worked or not..
What is your desired effect then DM?
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mousethief
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quote: Originally posted by daronmedway: quote: Originally posted by mousethief: [QUOTE]What would you say the desired effect was, out of curiosity?
It reminds me of this party political poster from the late 70s. It's not working on so many levels.
It seemed a fairly simple question. Is your evasion due to the fact that that you don't know, or you won't say?
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daronmedway
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quote: Originally posted by Zacchaeus: Well as I accept, that evensong will never admit, that view other than her own might be valid, the desired effect for me is that others might see she really doesn’t know what she is talking about.
However I don’t know how we can ever judge whether my desired effect has worked or not..
What is your desired effect then DM?
When I said "desired affect" I meant that the thread is not affecting Evensong (i.e. influencing behavioural change) positively. It isn't working. It is an ineffective thread. The rule is 'e’ for result and cause, and ‘a’ for influence and response. [ 04. November 2012, 17:09: Message edited by: daronmedway ]
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mousethief
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No. "Affect" as a noun means "emotion."
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daronmedway
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quote: Originally posted by mousethief: No. "Affect" as a noun means "emotion."
Hmm. Perhaps. Anyway. My point is that the thread isn't making Evensong change.
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Very few Hell calls do. And Evensong has already had her share and then some.
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