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Firenze

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Why look it up when someone here is bound to know.

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Uncle Pete

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Galloping Granny posted:

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Hope this is okay here as it doesn't seem worth starting a whole new thread in Eccles.

Coming from a Presy tradition where at Communion we take a piece of bread from a plate handed round, I went on 1 January to a Union church with a more mixed background, and the minister handed each communicant their piece of bread. Before he commenced the rite, during a music voluntary, he rubbed his hands throughly but not ostentatiously, I assume using a sanitising liquid.

So what does a priest administering the eucharist in the form of wafers do, as far as hygiene is concerned?

Chive responded with one word: Lavabo.

Lavabo, as a rite with water and towels within the context of the Mass, is um ritualistic.

If you saw a minister or priest rubbing his hands together outside of this rite it was almost certainly a hand sanitizer. Most parishes in my diocese have one installed on the wall of the sanctuary (or a hand bottle on the side table) and both lay ministers of communion and clergy use it.

I especially appreciate it when the priest has a sneeze or has the sniffles.

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quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:

If you saw a minister or priest rubbing his hands together outside of this rite it was almost certainly a hand sanitizer. Most parishes in my diocese have one installed on the wall of the sanctuary (or a hand bottle on the side table) and both lay ministers of communion and clergy use it.
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What we called the Holy Handgel, when we were obliged to use it during the swine flu panic.

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Yep, we do that as well. Embarrassing when the perfumed sort is brought out by mistake.

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quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
Coming from a Presy tradition where at Communion we take a piece of bread from a plate handed round...

This gives me the cold shudders. I won't receive the bread if that's going on, because it's way too germy. I would much rather have the celebrant tear me off a piece and place it into my hand, because I know he or she has cleansed his or her hands before beginning. My pew mate, however, has just spent the entire service coughing into her/his hands and rubbing her/his nose with her/his fingers and is now rooting around in the tray trying to grab a piece of wonderbread.

No thank you. Absolutely not.

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I bought a pair of pyjamas for my little boy, and the label said, "These clothes are designed to be close fitting to reduce the risk of catching fire." (or words to that effect.) Why?

I can see that having dangly clothing is more of a risk if you're around naked flames or hot plates, but surely you keep a 1-yr-old well away from those things anyway, and they are less likely to get close to them in bed than during the daytime. Is it something to do with airflow?

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Firenze

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I would tend to decode that as: we skimped on fabric to make them cheaper to produce. But then I'm cynical.
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Ok

My fluorescent tube light in the kitchen has seriously started flicking. I think it is 4 foot long one (maybe 5 foot) and has been going for around eighteen years without trouble (house was new when I moved in and I have not replaced it).

I need to get it working properly again, what is my best way forward?

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Buy a replacement tube to match your existing, most likely. Check length, wattage and end caps match.

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That may not work because:

1. The tube may be so old that they don't make them in that fitting anymore (the tube size should be printed on the glass near one end) - I have this problem;

2. It may be the starter that is at fault (this is a small cylindrical object on the fitment, either on its side or underneath the tube when you remove it). It comes out with a little push and a twist - worth replacing anyway as they're cheap.

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quote:
Originally posted by Martha:
I bought a pair of pyjamas for my little boy, and the label said, "These clothes are designed to be close fitting to reduce the risk of catching fire." (or words to that effect.) Why?

I can see that having dangly clothing is more of a risk if you're around naked flames or hot plates, but surely you keep a 1-yr-old well away from those things anyway, and they are less likely to get close to them in bed than during the daytime. Is it something to do with airflow?

When I was a younger and many people had open fires, there was a serious of children hurt when they went too near the open fires in their pyjamas.

I have always thought this labeling of most children's PJ's with some sort of warning against fire came from those days.

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quote:
Originally posted by Padre Joshua:
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
Coming from a Presy tradition where at Communion we take a piece of bread from a plate handed round...

This gives me the cold shudders. I won't receive the bread if that's going on, because it's way too germy. I would much rather have the celebrant tear me off a piece and place it into my hand, because I know he or she has cleansed his or her hands before beginning. My pew mate, however, has just spent the entire service coughing into her/his hands and rubbing her/his nose with her/his fingers and is now rooting around in the tray trying to grab a piece of wonderbread.

No thank you. Absolutely not.

That's quite funny as I have always attended Church of Christ or Baptist Churches where we take a piece of bread or cracker each from a plate and even my germophobe Mum has never worried. However we drink the Communion grape juice out of tiny glass cups and my Mum has always had a horror of churches where they shared a communal goblet - even if it was wiped between uses.

I'd be more worried about inhaling germs from a person coughing or sneezing and that's pretty impossible to avoid unless everyone who has a cold or cough stays home from church. Most people try to take bread from the top and only touch the piece they take for themselves. I guess you could get gastro if someone was sick and hadn't washed their hands after going to the toilet but I've never heard of anyone getting food poisoning from bread. (That didn't make your fears better did it [Big Grin] )

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quote:
Originally posted by Chive:
If you saw a minister or priest rubbing his hands together outside of this rite it was almost certainly a hand sanitizer. Most parishes in my diocese have one installed on the wall of the sanctuary

At a church I was visiting I once saw a minister have a righteous hand-rub with sanitiser, then dried his newly-clean hands on the most bedraggled, festering, breeding-ground-for-bacteria of a cloth I have ever seen.

I felt like going over and beating him over the head with the microbiology degree I keep in my pocket for just such occasions, but refrained.

Fortunately he wasn't serving.

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Moo

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quote:
Originally posted by Zacchaeus:
When I was a younger and many people had open fires, there was a serious of children hurt when they went too near the open fires in their pyjamas.

I have always thought this labeling of most children's PJ's with some sort of warning against fire came from those days.

In the US the most common scenario for kids' pjs catching on fire was when they accidentally turned on the stove and then climbed up on it to reach the candy stored in the cabinet above the stove.

I made a point of never storing anything in that cabinet that my children might want.

Moo

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Note on hand sanitizer: it is a far second to soap and water for efficacy.
Sanitizer may kill some of the bacteria, soap and water removes them. Research appears to back this.

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Mili

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I wouldn't be surprised if sometime in the near future priests/ministers will be required to wear disposable gloves under food handling regulations.
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Zacchaeus
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quote:
Originally posted by Moo:
quote:
Originally posted by Zacchaeus:
When I was a younger and many people had open fires, there was a serious of children hurt when they went too near the open fires in their pyjamas.

I have always thought this labeling of most children's PJ's with some sort of warning against fire came from those days.

In the US the most common scenario for kids' pjs catching on fire was when they accidentally turned on the stove and then climbed up on it to reach the candy stored in the cabinet above the stove.

I made a point of never storing anything in that cabinet that my children might want.

Moo

In the UK people often have a mirror over the fireplace - so children having been bathed and changed into PJs and trying to look at themsleves in the mirror, could set fire to their PJ's. There were several nasty case when I was a child.


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American senior citzens can get annual or lifetime passes at discounted rates to national parks; does anyone know whether Canadian seniors can get an annual or lifetime pass to American national parks?
I found websites with the passes listed, but can't find a link for feriners to use.

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Firenze

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It's not linked to the individual institution is it? I see my membership of the Royal Botanic Garden in Edinburgh gives me privileges in a number of similar Gardens worldwide.
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In the category of Earth-Shattering Questions of Great Import:

what's the name of that little dent thing below your nose and above your upper lip? I just asked my mom and she called it the "snot runnel" which, I expect, is not the official name.

I suppose I could be wrong...

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comet

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quote:
Originally posted by Silver Faux:
American senior citzens can get annual or lifetime passes at discounted rates to national parks; does anyone know whether Canadian seniors can get an annual or lifetime pass to American national parks?
I found websites with the passes listed, but can't find a link for feriners to use.

no idea, but I have a handy-dandy park headquarters nearby, and I can call and ask in the morning if you like.

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quote:
Originally posted by Zacchaeus:
quote:
Originally posted by Martha:
I bought a pair of pyjamas for my little boy, and the label said, "These clothes are designed to be close fitting to reduce the risk of catching fire." (or words to that effect.) Why?

When I was a younger and many people had open fires, there was a serious of children hurt when they went too near the open fires in their pyjamas.

I have always thought this labeling of most children's PJ's with some sort of warning against fire came from those days.

I probably shouldn't even admit this, but I once lit myself on fire in my PJs by climbing ON to the woodstove to speed up the warming process. burned through my mother's quilt, my jammies, and burned my ass. not my brightest moment.

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Comet: It's the philtrum , but snot runnel works too. [Smile]
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aha! thank you!

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quote:
Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
That may not work because:

1. The tube may be so old that they don't make them in that fitting anymore (the tube size should be printed on the glass near one end) - I have this problem;

2. It may be the starter that is at fault (this is a small cylindrical object on the fitment, either on its side or underneath the tube when you remove it). It comes out with a little push and a twist - worth replacing anyway as they're cheap.

I replaced the tube and it still does not work. I fear it is the ballast, which could be more expensive. Do US lights have starters also?

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mertide
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We always replace the starter at the same time as the tube, they;re a dollar or so here, much cheaper than the tube. The flicking, particularly when you turn on is the starter. If the ballast goes, the light won't work at all. If that happens, buy a new modern fitting, no starter, electronic ballast, start instantly.
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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
It's not linked to the individual institution is it? I see my membership of the Royal Botanic Garden in Edinburgh gives me privileges in a number of similar Gardens worldwide.

Even if there isn't a formal reciprocal agreement I've found that it's worth flashing a membership card for another like-minded institution (for example National Trust, RHS, even a Blue Peter badge) to see what discount/free entry might be available.
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Moo

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I have a question about glue.

The knob on the lid of my electric kettle came off some years ago. I fixed it with super-glue, and that lasted until recently. Now it has come off again.

Does anyone have suggestions about what kind of glue I should use this time? Should I try super-glue again and reconcile myself to doing it again in a few years?

I don't know what the knob is made of--something relatively heat-proof, obviously.

Any ideas?

Moo

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Super glue is good stuff but depends on the surfaces being clean and meeting without gaps (unless it's one of the 'gap filling' jel-style super glues).

I prefer two-part epoxy resin for most things. Remember to hold the parts together while they set: masking tape often does this nicely.

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quote:
Originally posted by comet:
quote:
Originally posted by Silver Faux:
American senior citzens can get annual or lifetime passes at discounted rates to national parks; does anyone know whether Canadian seniors can get an annual or lifetime pass to American national parks?
I found websites with the passes listed, but can't find a link for furriners to use.

no idea, but I have a handy-dandy park headquarters nearby, and I can call and ask in the morning if you like.
Thanks, comet, I would like that very much.
I am planning a six-week excursion that will take me through five or six American national parks and even a national grasslands, and it would be wonderful to just flash a prepaid card at each entrance and drive right in.
As for Firenze, I hope some day you get to wander through the Royal Botanical Gardens in Burlington/Hamilton Ontario; just watch out for the chipmunk-eating coyotes among the rose gardens.

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It would appear the answer is no, SF. Hopefully comet's friend can contradict this.

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I'm moving flat soon to a place with a glass-ceramics hop. I've had a gas cooker for a few years, and before that the tradional electric cooker.

Can I continue to use my pans on the glass-ceramics surface? Most are fairly recent, and I don't have a wok.

As I don't want to be a hob knob, I'd be grateful for any comments. Thanks muchly.

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Wesley J

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In addition to the above: What's the general approach to using a glass-ceramics thingy? Cooking times, intensity, handling? Is it more energy-efficient than the traditional electric ones? Any experienced users out there?

Thanks. [Smile]

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You can use the same pans. The thing to be aware of is that you can't control the heat as immediately as you can with gas. With gas, turn the dial up or down and the heat level changes pretty much instantly. With electric, there's quite a lag time. So, this'll mean that it takes a little while to heat up when you first turn it on (increasing cooking time a tad). More importantly, if something is boiling over, don't just turn the heat down, but move the pot off the heat as the heat won't cool down instantly.

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And,keep the cook top clean, as well as the bottoms of your pots and pans. The ceramic top cleaner does a nice job, but it does take some elbow grease.

I've had mine for about eight years, and love cooking on it!

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I tried one once at a friend's house and couldn't get on with it. It's personal preference, but I like to be able to see whether the rings are on or not - it's easier to burn yourself accidentally.

Meanwhile - I'm guessing that Freeview digital TV requires "software updates" of some kind? I've found that if I use the TV daily I don't generally have problems getting programmes, but leave it for a few days and reception is awful and needs a "warm-up" time of at least 20 minutes before it stops being pixellated and staccato. Is this normal?

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quote:
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I tried one once at a friend's house and couldn't get on with it. It's personal preference, but I like to be able to see whether the rings are on or not - it's easier to burn yourself accidentally. [...]

Thanks all! - Encouraging. I may PM you peeps and/or certainly get in touch with the manufacturer: they will have more details on cooking prodecures, beyond the cleaning and the technical details. Will have get used to it in any case, as it comes with the new flat... [Biased]

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You need to make sure that the bottoms of your pans are flat. If they're warped, they won't work so well.

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My mother had one - she thought it was great, unless you spilled anything on it. If you didn't clean it up straight away it tended to stick like super-glue. She used a razor to clean really stubborn marks. It did seem to be more work that I'd like.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wesley J:
... I don't want to be a hob knob ...

[Killing me]

I've been used to ceramic hobs for ages - my parents still have the one they got about 25 years ago and my last house had a built-in one. When we replaced the stove in our present house we got one with a ceramic hob and I love it.

As for cleaning - the cream cleaner seems to work pretty well, especially if used in conjunction with a thing called a Scrunge - I find that their claim not to need chemical cleaners is bollocks, but together they work (and ceramic hobs are much easier to clean than radiant rings - there's nowhere for bits of food to fall).

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Wet Kipper
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Has anyone with an Android phone tried to put the "digital copy" of a triple-play or Double play DVD onto their phone?

I know that if you use iTunes then the "e-copy" code is essentially a voucher to download the film from the iTunes store for free, but how does it work for Android phones ?

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Wet Kipper
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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel about glass-ceramic hobs:
but I like to be able to see whether the rings are on or not

My mum's has a little set of warning lights that tells you if the hob is still hot, even though it has been turned off.

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John Holding

Coffee and Cognac
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One thing you have to watch out for with glass tops is spilling sugar on them. Most stuff will come off with the cream cleaner or a blade if it cooks on, but burnt on sugar apparently eats into the surface and just won't come off.

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passer

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I noticed today that there is no Wiki page for Robert Jay QC, currently of the Leveson enquiry. There is a broken link (red) from the Enquiry's own page, so there was one once.

Is it reasonable to assume that someone, presumably Robert Jay himself, has had it deleted? I didn't know that that was possible - does anybody know what the Wiki rules are on this? I can't work it out from the Wiki deletions guidance page.

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Jengie jon

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No. Red links means that someone thinks there should be a page. I have created one or two on Wiki. I rarely edit there, only when I am correcting errors I know full well to be wrong.

Jengie

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passer

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Thank you Jengie.

In that case, as I would expect there to be a page for a high profile person like him, does that mean that a mechanism exists to prevent one being opened? Is there some method of telling the Wiki organisation that he doesn't want to feature therein, and they would be obliged to comply, and could I theoretically do that do that also, for myself (not that that is a situation likely to arise!)? Or might it be that because he is a big-shot Brief they would choose not to argue about it?

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Ricardus
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Here is a maths question that may be based on a misconception.

If you have a ship travelling at eight knots in one direction, and another ship next to it travelling in exactly the opposite direction also at eight knots, then the relative velocity of them is sixteen knots, right?

Is there a way of calculating and expressing their relative velocity at a given time if one is travelling at an angle of, say, 15 degrees relative to the other? (Still at eight knots each.)

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Ricardus
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Actually ignore that question. I've found the answer here.

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Hennah

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Towards the end of last year I came across a 50p piece with a 2011 date, with the 2012 Olympic logo and a depiction of two hockey players on the "tails" side. I thought that there might be a series of commemorative coins depicting different sports so I kept it, anticipating a few more. I haven't seen a single one.

Does anyone know if there if a series that I just happen to be missing, or is it a one-off?

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Jengie jon

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You mean these?

Jengie

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