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Thread: Pride and Prejudice and You Tube
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jedijudy
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How many of us have seen the The Lizzie Bennet Diaries? It seems to me that we could share thoughts and opinions about this series, much like the Dr. Who thread does.
So, do you think that Lizzie translates well to this era? Does it matter that there are two missing sisters? What about Jane and Charlotte? When will Darcy make his appearance?
I want to sincerely thank Smudgie for dragging me into this. It's her fault!
I've just watched episode 46. Two episodes a week is a killer! Couldn't Lizzie squeeze in just one more episode a week?
And, if anyone gets sucked in like I did, and you want to get even with me, I don't live in Florida.
So, this is a discussion thread, please no other You Tubes, or my fellow hosts may become peeved at me!
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North East Quine
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My daughter loves these and watches them the day they come out. I'm only on about episode 12, but I think it works well.
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daisydaisy
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Ooh thank you - these are addictive!
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jedijudy
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You're welcome, daisydaisy! I debated whether I should spread the addiction here, and my evil side won as you can see.
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Trudy Scrumptious
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My kids got into these but I had to explain to them about Pride and Prejudice. I haven't watched them all in order yet but I've enjoyed the ones I've seen watching over the kids' shoulders -- sometime I mean to sit down and watch them all. I think the story translates pretty well as a 21st-century video blog. I loved the opening with Lizzie's mother giving her the "It is a truth universally acknowledged ..." quote on a T-shirt. Great way to kick off.
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jacobsen
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I like!
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QLib
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Just seen the first one and enjoyed it very much, though she seems to fall into the classic error of thinking that to be "in want of a wife" means the same thing as wanting a wife. There was a very enjoyable discussion in a parliamentary sub-committee a coupla years back when someone (a Tory spokesperson, I think), giving evidence, described a colleague as wanting advice. When it later emerged that the colleague in question was being actively unwelcoming to any attempt to proffer advice, the Tory spokesperson was accused of misleading the committee. Not at all, he said, they had merely misunderstood him: the man was in want of advice, even though he himself might not actually want any.
Well, I thought it was funny.
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daisydaisy
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How many tops does Lizzie have? I'm loving this. I think my favourite moment so far is in 1 or 2 where she makes reference to the Bridget Jones movie. Although come to think of it, I have many favourite moments.
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Belle Ringer
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I don't need another addiction!
YouTube you say? Search term Lizzie?
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jedijudy
Organist of the Jedi Temple
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Belle Ringer, you can get to all the episodes through the link at the top of the page!
I love it when Lizzy portrays her mother! One wonders whether Mom is really supposed to be a southern belle, or if Lizzie is indicating that her mother is daft enough to show characteristics of certain regional stereotypes? I doubt we'll ever know for sure.
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MSHB
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quote: Originally posted by jedijudy: Does it matter that there are two missing sisters?
But they are not missing!
Mary has turned into "cousin Mary" - the character still exists, just the relationship has changed.
And Kitty is a kitty - literally.
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jedijudy
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I did think at the time that Mary had been transposed to cousin-hood. But how could I have forgotten about the kitty?
I guess what I really meant was that there were not five girls living in the Bennet household. Actually, that was quite clever...and more than my little brain could comprehend, apparently!
I learn a lot from my Shipmates!
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Belle Ringer
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quote: Originally posted by jedijudy: How many of us have seen the The Lizzie Bennet Diaries?... And, if anyone gets sucked in like I did, and you want to get even with me, I don't live in Florida.
Last night as I was turning off the computer to go to bed, I thought I'd just take a peak at what y'all are chatting about. 22 episodes later I torn myself away but was too stimulated from all the laughter to sleep, so today I'm barely dragging, and jedijudy it's all your fault and I do (almost) know where you live!
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daisydaisy
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quote: Originally posted by MSHB: quote: Originally posted by jedijudy: Does it matter that there are two missing sisters?
But they are not missing!
Mary has turned into "cousin Mary" - the character still exists, just the relationship has changed.
And Kitty is a kitty - literally.
Ah well spotted - I was just about to retread P&P to remind myself of where cousin Mary fitted in
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Belle Ringer
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quote: Originally posted by daisydaisy: Ah well spotted - I was just about to retread P&P to remind myself of where cousin Mary fitted in
I wasn't planning to go that far; as a teen I loved the book, but when I reread it a decade or two ago I thought their lives terribly empty.
Still this vlog version is delightful, partly because the girls ARE interested in a whole lot more of life than just who they will marry, even if (eye-roll) Mother is obsessed with their getting married. Mom's can be somewhat like that when daughters reach their 20s.
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jedijudy
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quote: Originally posted by Belle Ringer: ...and jedijudy it's all your fault and I do (almost) know where you live!
Well, actually it's Smudgie's fault! Where is she, BTW?
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Belle Ringer
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http://www.lizziebennet.com/story/
Tweets between various characters, including early on:
@that_caroline @wmdarcy going furniture shopping shortly Bing Lee 5 months ago
@bingliest PLEASE don't buy anything without sending me pictures first Caroline Lee 5 months ago
@bingliest listen to your sister. you have horrible taste in decorating William Darcy 5 months ago
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MSHB
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quote: Originally posted by jedijudy: I did think at the time that Mary had been transposed to cousin-hood. But how could I have forgotten about the kitty?
I guess what I really meant was that there were not five girls living in the Bennet household. Actually, that was quite clever...and more than my little brain could comprehend, apparently!
I learn a lot from my Shipmates!
I live in a household that is fairly besotted with Jane Austen. So the vlog was an instant hit. I have watched them all - including Lydia's vlogs and the Q&As.
My only complaint, as for other people here, is the episodes don't come fast enough.
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Latchkey Kid
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Saw the first episode.
I suppose it might be classed as chickVlog, but I like it and am going to watch more episodes.
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daisydaisy
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I'm finding myself keenly watching FB to get told when the next posting is up on YT - yesterday's was the beginning of one of the twists in the plot - I loved the acting out of events by Lizzie & Jane.
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kingsfold
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Why didn't I just avoid this thread? Or resist the temptation to just take a look?
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Tree Bee
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Ha! Thanks guys! Mr Bee had the footie on so I'm up to episode 14.
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Adeodatus
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Ok, confession time - I have never read Pride and Prejudice.
Yesterday, I watched the first four chapters of the Lizzie Bennet Diaries. Today, I started reading Pride and Prejudice. And I'm loving every beautifully crafted sentence of it!
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jedijudy
Organist of the Jedi Temple
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I am so evil! Yes I am!
I haven't seen yesterday's adventure, yet. It will be my after-Ship dessert tonight!
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MSHB
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For those starved of P&P vlogging episodes...
Charlotte (and little sister Maria) Lu have their own vlog now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgM0Y-S2UA0.
Maria is doing an internship working with Charlotte at Mister Collins's web business venture.
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MSHB
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quote: Originally posted by Adeodatus: Ok, confession time - I have never read Pride and Prejudice.
Yesterday, I watched the first four chapters of the Lizzie Bennet Diaries. Today, I started reading Pride and Prejudice. And I'm loving every beautifully crafted sentence of it!
There is nothing so heartening to read on a religious website as news of a recent conversion.
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busyknitter
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One episode and I think I'm hooked.
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busyknitter
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OK, I have now seen all 44 existing episodes, the Q&As and all of Lydia's vlog. So how long do I have to wait for the next one? [ 11. September 2012, 14:07: Message edited by: busyknitter ]
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daisydaisy
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Ah but have you started on Charlotte's vlog yet?
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jedijudy
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Thursday. Thursday is like forever away. Advent was like this when I was a kid, even if I didn't know it was Advent. (We did Christmas in the church where I grew up, no Advent, no Lent.)
So, is Lydia a little brat, or what? At least here we kind of have more of a clue as to how 'that' happened!!
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MSHB
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quote: Originally posted by jedijudy: So, is Lydia a little brat, or what? At least here we kind of have more of a clue as to how 'that' happened!!
Lydia (the Ly-dee-YAH!) is the little sister you'd love to strangle. All that over-the-top peppiness and posing for the camera. Doesn't take her long to get Wickham's shirt off.
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Trudy Scrumptious
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I actually kind of love Lydia. Bratty, annoying, amoral, and yet there's a kind of sweetness to her too -- I just love the way this actress portrays her. I think she really does bring the adorbs. I loved how shamelessly she got Wickham to take his shirt off. And, of course, I loved it when Wickham's shirt was off.
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busyknitter
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Yep I'm with Trudy on both the Lydia and shirtless Wickham questions
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daisydaisy
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Me too - she is well portrayed as a lovable scamp, enjoying every moment of whatever comes her way.
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jedijudy
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So, I just did some catching up on the last six videos. RL is so hard on my entertainment options!
Anyway, episode 48...I think that was the one...when Jane shows her true feelings about Bing leaving, was really well done. I had tears streaming out of my eyes.
I think Jane Austen would have enjoyed these! Bring on Darcy!!
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Theophania
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Ooooh, these are clever. Only up to episode six but loving it: thank you for the pleasing distraction from the useful stuff I should be doing.
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Trudy Scrumptious
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I notice Lydia has started making videos again. Yay!
I'm wondering how they're going to handle the fact that they've made Lydia a rather sympathetic, though shallow, character here. It's been awhile since I've read the original but I do recall the Lydia ends up with Wickham. In this version, Lizzie seems to feel things are still a bit up in the air between herself and Wickham and might still have some feelings for him, and Lydia as they're developing her here doesn't seem the type to steal a guy her sister still likes, right out from under her nose -- her affection for and loyalty to her sisters seems genuine; she's certainly fonder of Lizzie than Lizzie is of her.
Any thoughts? (Particular from anyone who remembers the original book better).
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Moo
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In the original book Lizzie is away traveling with her aunt and uncle at the time Lydia elopes. Lizzie hasn't seen Wickham in a while, and she's heard very bad stuff about him from Darcy. She's inclined to believe Darcy, but she isn't sure
Moo
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Trudy Scrumptious
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I'm wondering if Lizzie's current visit to Charlotte at Collins & Collins will parallel that visit in the book? If so, should we expect a Lydia/Wickham hookup soon?
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I lied. There are no things. Just books.
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Moo
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In the book Lizzie visits the Collins and then goes home. Her aunt and uncle pick her up after Lydia has gone to Brighton.
Moo
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Trudy Scrumptious
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Did anyone catch today's big (semi) reveal?
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busyknitter
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Indeed I did. I'm really quite curious as to how they are going to turn around Lizzie's attitude towards Darcy, as her current hatred of him seems so much more visceral than in the original.
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jedijudy
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Oh, gosh. I have two weeks-I think-of catching up to do! My days seem to be devoid of actual free time. Must remedy that!
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jedijudy
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Oh. My. Gosh!!!! What a smug, condescending Darcy!!! It took ...what?... thirty weeks to see him?
Bravo Lizzie and Darcy!! Loved the snarling!
-------------------- Jasmine, little cat with a big heart.
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Trudy Scrumptious
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I loved the appearance of Darcy. I hope the actor has the skills to show a side of himself that will make us want Lizzie to get together with him, but I trust that he will because all the actors in this series have been really good and versatile so far.
-------------------- Books and things.
I lied. There are no things. Just books.
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busyknitter
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Yup, that was a very good episode. Roll on Monday
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jedijudy
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Don't you just love Fitz? He's cute and funny and loyal! (Whoa, girl; and way too young!)
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Smudgie
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My Saturday morning is rapidly disappearing. I'm right behind with P&P seeing as I wasn't able to watch it properly when my brother was staying with us, so have been forced against my will to bring my breakfast back to bed and slob in my fluffy dressing gown all morning until I have made it as far as episode 37. Do you think they would accept it at work if I phoned in and said I'd be a bit late?
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