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Jane R
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C'mon, Adeodatus. Somebody else would have said them. Maybe not as well, but the same point would have been made.
If my emotions are going to be played on as a stringed instrument I want the Tragic Event to mean something. I don't want to go to the next film and discover that it was all an elaborate April Fool.
I'm obviously in a minority though, because as lilBuddha points out the subsequent films did rather well at the box office.
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Mamacita
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C'mon, Adeodatus. Somebody else would have said them. Maybe not as well, but the same point would have been made.
That's kind of like saying that any of the Star Wars characters could have delivered the line quote:
When 900 years you reach, look as good, you will not.
You need the context, the intonation, everything about the character delivering the line. The point of
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They are not the hell your whales
was Spock's confusion and dismay over the extensive use of "colorful language" (I think that's what he called it) in late 20th-century America, and his awkward attempts to blend in socially by sprinkling his speech with them. Nobody else could have pulled that off precisely because it was not only part of his character development in ST IV but part of his overarching character narrative as he interacts with the human species throughout the franchise. (Sorry to make so much of this, but Adeodatus' post cracked me up.)
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What they should have done was not kill Spock in the first place. They could've got rid of Chekhov or Sulu, or portrayed McCoy's gradual decline following his addiction to one of those colourful liquids in bottles he used to keep in the sick bay. A haunted, haggard figure stalking the darker decks of the Enterprise, every fibre of his being crying out for the next hypospray, he mutters incoherently to himself, only occasionally saying something intelligible like, "Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a winged giraffe!"
After his death, they could've made Star Trek III: the Search for Someone to Make Mildly Racist Remarks About Spock.
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Originally posted by Adeodatus:
What they should have done was not kill Spock in the first place. They could've got rid of Chekhov or Sulu, or portrayed McCoy's gradual decline following his addiction to one of those colourful liquids in bottles he used to keep in the sick bay. A haunted, haggard figure stalking the darker decks of the Enterprise, every fibre of his being crying out for the next hypospray, he mutters incoherently to himself, only occasionally saying something intelligible like, "Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a winged giraffe!"
After his death, they could've made Star Trek III: the Search for Someone to Make Mildly Racist Remarks About Spock.
I really really wish the Ship had a "Like" button.
I'm with you Adeodatus. In fact, I'm very happy Spock came back.
What I am wondering about is how the destruction of Vulcan in Star Trek (2009) is going to affect the Trek universe... I really enjoyed that movie, but am not sure I quite buy the "alternative time line" thing.
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(your ex sounds like a real jerk, btw - you're well rid of him)
Indeed he is!
Poor Dr. McCoy. Brilliant and compassionate...and always (well, almost always) overshadowed by Spock. He did get the last word once!
When DeForest Kelley died in 1999, there were a lot of very sad people, but not so sad that we didn't spread the word by saying, "He's dead, Jim!"
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Jane R
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Adeodatus: quote:
What they should have done was not kill Spock in the first place. They could've got rid of Chekhov or Sulu, or portrayed McCoy's gradual decline following his addiction to one of those colourful liquids in bottles he used to keep in the sick bay. A haunted, haggard figure stalking the darker decks of the Enterprise, every fibre of his being crying out for the next hypospray, he mutters incoherently to himself, only occasionally saying something intelligible like, "Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a winged giraffe!"
![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif) OK, I agree with you there. I could do without Dr McCoy quite happily...
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Can I ask a question?
Well tough, I'm going to ask it anyway.
A double episide of TNG featuring the Borg, possibly the first Borg episode. At the end of the first episode J-L Picard is turned into a Borg. My problem is that every time it is shown I have only seen the first half of the story, I've never seen the conclusion.
How did it end? Please,I need to know.
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balaam: Can I ask a question?
Well tough, I'm going to ask it anyway.
A double episide of TNG featuring the Borg, possibly the first Borg episode. At the end of the first episode J-L Picard is turned into a Borg. My problem is that every time it is shown I have only seen the first half of the story, I've never seen the conclusion.
How did it end? Please,I need to know.
BIG FAT SPOILER WARNING
In a daring move that involves separating the saucer section of the Enterprise, Riker manages to rescue Picard from the Borg ship, but Picard is still Locutus, connected to the Borg.
The Borg break through the defenses that Star Fleet had put up, and reach Earth.
Just when they're about to destroy Earth, Data manages to connect through the Borg collective by making a link with Picard. He tries to get them to desist from the attack on Earth, but fails. Riker is about to give the command to ram the Enterprise into the Borg cube.
Then, the real Picard surfaces and manages to say the word 'Sleep'. Beverly Crusher thinks that he's tired, but Data understands what he means: through Picard, he implants a command into the Borg collective that causes all Borg to go into a regeneration cycle, thereby stopping their attack on Earth.
Later, Beverly Crusher manages to remove the Borg implants from Picard, but the mental scars will always remain.
A golden episode!
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Thanks LeRoc.
That makes sense of some of the later Borg episodes too.
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One of my girlfriends is a major Trekkie and actually worked a few conventions as security when she was in the Navy. She loves Denise Crosby as Tasha Yar but absolutely loathes William Shatner, or SHITner as she calls him. According to her, he's a sexist, racist, homophobic a-hole. I never got into Star Trek as much as I'm completely a Star Wars nerd but of all the series I like DS9 the best. I couldn't stand the characters Geordie LaForge and Data from TNG but I did love Q. Oh, the actor that portrayed him, John DeLancie is supposedly also a major a-hole.
I'm thinking I'm going to have to save up my pennies and buy the entire DS9 series. I love, love the Ferengi.
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The5thMary
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It is the will of Landrau that I admit I like the original series although I cringe at every "romance" of Captain Kirk and at the way the women never did anything but look sexy and support the men.
And, if I NEVER have to hear Scotty's obnoxious accent and the mention of Dilithium crystals, it'll be too soon. Even in the new re-tread with Zachary Quinto and Chris Pine, the Scotty character is obnoxious.
One more thing before I shut up (really!). Did anyone else besides me hate the stupid romance between Spock and Uhura in the re-boot? I'm sorry, but it was soooooo stupid and completely out of place.
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Timothy the Obscure
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McCoy was absolutely necessary. In a Levi-Straussian structuralist way, he was the antithesis of Spock's rigid logic, so that Kirk could be the mediating figure. Or maybe it's Hegelian, whatever... In any case, the reason vs. emotion dialectic is a core theme in Star Trek, and Bones was at the heart of it. He was a good doctor.
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Without wishing to derail any of the interesting topics under discussion, this is one of my favourite songs.
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Amika
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Originally posted by The5thMary:
One more thing before I shut up (really!). Did anyone else besides me hate the stupid romance between Spock and Uhura in the re-boot? I'm sorry, but it was soooooo stupid and completely out of place.
I just hate the reboot. Seen it once, will never watch it again.
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Amika
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Originally posted by Timothy the Obscure:
McCoy was absolutely necessary. In a Levi-Straussian structuralist way, he was the antithesis of Spock's rigid logic, so that Kirk could be the mediating figure. Or maybe it's Hegelian, whatever... In any case, the reason vs. emotion dialectic is a core theme in Star Trek, and Bones was at the heart of it. He was a good doctor.
I agree. He was also the best doctor of all, despite my being very fond the VOY doctor and quite liking the ENT one, too. Beverly Crusher was the worst. She never seemed credible as a doctor to me, but then she was one of my least favourite characters in TNG anyway. Pulaski was a relief in the second season. Shame she was ditched to get ole Bev back!
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I just hate the reboot. Seen it once, will never watch it again.
I LOVE the reboot! Not merely as a movie in itself, but the franchise was becoming a bit stale. Now there is the possibility to go where no Trek writer has gone before.
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Jane R
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Did anyone else besides me hate the stupid romance between Spock and Uhura in the re-boot?
I liked what they did to Uhura's character in the reboot. Yes, a communications expert with responsibility for First Contact situations *would* have to be one of the most intelligent and highly trained people on the ship, something that really doesn't come across in TOS. But I agree that the "romance" is unnecessary. Why can't they just be good friends? Spock is an alien (well OK, half alien); he's only supposed to be interested in sex once in a blue moon.
I hated the rest of the reboot. Whatever else you may say about James T. Kirk in TOS, he wasn't a Dumb Jock. He could give Spock a run for his money at three-dimensional chess. The rebooted Kirk would have struggled with the rules of tiddlywinks.
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Amika
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I hated the rest of the reboot. Whatever else you may say about James T. Kirk in TOS, he wasn't a Dumb Jock. He could give Spock a run for his money at three-dimensional chess. The rebooted Kirk would have struggled with the rules of tiddlywinks.
Exactly. Kirk was my hero, and what they did to him (it was bad enough the way they changed him for the earlier films!) was too much. He was actually portrayed as an intelligent and well-read man in TOS. He even described himself as 'a stack of books with legs' in one episode (Court Martial?). The dreary bouts of fisticuffs and the 'Kirk gets the girl in every episode' parts of TOS I forgive because those were the mores of the times, but the character of Kirk doesn't deserve the opprobrium that has been heaped on him over the years.
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?? I thought Kirk was portrayed as highly, almost impossibly, intelligent in the reboot - which I loved, once I'd got over Spock being played by evil mutant Silas - isn't that the point? That it was a different path... in the universe we (TOS) inhabited before, the array or entity or ship or whatever DIDN'T kill Kirk's father so he didn't grow up as stupidly rebellious and the original story happened. In the new reality, he got to command enterprise but by a different path.
I didn't hate the relationship (again, not the alternate reality) as there have been echoes of the 'relationship that might have been' thru all the books. It doesn't fit with Vulcan relationship history though, and we're often told that Spock can't bear to be touched because his vulcan half gets drenched in undisciplined human emotion.
Roddenberry was actually very courageous casting a black woman in an important, intelligent role in the ..60s? and he'd have liked to cast a woman as the doctor too, but he couldn't push gender and race politics too far, or his show would have bombed before it started. He cast his wife as the nurse instead.
erm... have I possibly outed myself as a trekkie yet..?
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Timothy the Obscure
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I thought Reboot Kirk was portrayed as very bright guy with more than a touch of ADHD.
I really did like what they did with Uhura--almost as if they heard Gwen in Galaxy Quest complain about having nothing to do but repeat what the computer said and set out to make amends.
As for women's roles--in the original pilot for TOS, the second-in-command (the role that eventually became Spock) was played by Majel Barret (Roddenberry's wife). In test viewings there was such intense negative reaction to a cold, logical woman in command (especially from female viewers!) that they demoted her to nurse...
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Originally posted by Amika: " Beverly Crusher was the worst. She never seemed credible as a doctor to me, but then she was one of my least favourite characters in TNG anyway. Pulaski was a relief in the second season. Shame she was ditched to get ole Bev back!"
Yeah! Gates McFadden is a horrible actress! And when TNG first started, I kinda hated the character Deanna Troi. She said the stupidest "no duh!" stuff! Aliens could be shooting at the Enterprise and Picard would ask Troi about them. "Captain... I sense that they're angry about something..." No shit, Counselor! Thanks for that deep insight!
Luckily, as the series went on, Troi became much more three dimensional but those early episodes were enough to cause me to ridicule the entire show.
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Since I am a psychotherapist, Deanna Troi makes my teeth ache. She illustrates why too much empathy can be a bad thing. She's got no professional boundaries--in fact she doesn't seem like a professional at all, just a kind of loose empathy cannon, Carl Rogers's id cut loose from any concept of technique or theory. Every time I've seen an episode featuring her, I've wanted to complain to whatever board licenses starship counselors.
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"Intense joy and great happiness", uttered with tears in her eyes. Yes, it is nauseating, but pray tell, when have any psychologists, therapists or mental health workers ever been portrayed as they must in real life. The only one which comes to mind is Judd Hirsch in "Ordinary People". They all lack boundaries in Hollywood, they are all disordered, they all are in voyages to repair themselves, and they most frequently lack any sense of sexual boundaries.
I always wanted Troi and Wesley to be both thrown out an airlock, a sentiment made much more prominent after watching Battlestar Galatica. (Which now has me thinking, is the Ship Of Fools a sailing vessel or a starship?)
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Originally posted by Timothy the Obscure:
As for women's roles--in the original pilot for TOS, the second-in-command (the role that eventually became Spock) was played by Majel Barret (Roddenberry's wife). In test viewings there was such intense negative reaction to a cold, logical woman in command (especially from female viewers!) that they demoted her to nurse...
I remember reading somewhere that the original pilot did indeed have Barrett as first officer, but also did have the Spock character on the bridge in some other role, and that the first notes Roddenberry got from the network were "Lose the Martian and the girl." I wonder if that's correct or if I'm misremembering an article read years ago?
TOS is laughably cringeworthy in so many many ways, but Roddenberry really was a visionary in many ways too, even if he had to pull back on some of his vision in order to get it on air. Having Chekhov on the bridge in a show that aired in the middle of the Cold War was also another big step (even if the original Klingons do look and sound a bit Russian).
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Jane R
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Roddenberry was actually very courageous casting a black woman in an important, intelligent role in the ..60s?
<pause to check Wikipedia> TOS was shown from 1966-9. The original pilot (featuring Majel Barrett as second-in-command) was made in 1965. Roddenberry was hawking the original idea around studios in 1964, the same year as your first Civil Rights Act.
Yes, it is pretty amazing. Just after racial discrimination was outlawed and at the height of the Cold War, here comes a TV series saying 'This stuff may seem like a big deal now, but in the future it won't matter'. Uhura only got to say 'Hailing channels open, Captain' (if that), but she was THERE.
I must have missed the bit about Rebooted Kirk being intelligent. All I saw was an oik interested only in cars (or the 23rd century equivalent thereof).
I confess, I was prejudiced against the reboot by the ridiculously dramatic first scene, where James T. is born as his father Dies Heroically (having fulfilled his biological purpose).
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Originally posted by Trudy Scrumptious:
Having Chekhov on the bridge in a show that aired in the middle of the Cold War was also another big step (even if the original Klingons do look and sound a bit Russian).
The Man from UNCLE started two years before STTOS, and my favourite one of its co-stars was supposed to be not only a Russian but an employee of the Soviet government seconded to the UN. And strange as it seems now, The Man from UNCLE had more viewers than Star Trek did back then. And I liked it, so there! ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Jane R
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...and I've been thinking (always a dangerous move) about Kirk/Rebooted Kirk. I wonder if the discrepancy is due to a difference in how we recognise Intelligent People? Back in the 1960s an intelligent person would be expected to have read literary classics (even if s/he didn't like them much), know a bit about classical mythology, play chess, etc. etc. So in order to show that TOS Kirk was intelligent you have him quoting from Shakespeare occasionally or feature the odd shot of Spock gnashing his teeth* as Kirk says 'Checkmate'. Nowadays a maths geek who has no interest in any aspect of Western culture except zombie films made between 1950 and 1975 and garage bands of the 1990s (have I got the terminology right here?) would still be recognised as an intelligent person, even if s/he had never heard of Shakespeare.
And that would explain the problem, assuming that those who say Rebooted Kirk is intelligent are right (I am not interested enough in the question to sit through the reboot again, so I'll take your word for it); I was expecting Rebooted Kirk to be like TOS Kirk and looking for the wrong signs of intelligence...
*OK, OK; raising one eyebrow slightly. The Vulcan equivalent.
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And that would explain the problem, assuming that those who say Rebooted Kirk is intelligent are right (I am not interested enough in the question to sit through the reboot again, so I'll take your word for it); I was expecting Rebooted Kirk to be like TOS Kirk and looking for the wrong signs of intelligence...
*OK, OK; raising one eyebrow slightly. The Vulcan equivalent.
One huge problem is TOS had several seasons to establish its Kirk. The Reboot had just over two hours to establish several characters, a new back-story (with some integration of the old) and tell an interesting tale. Not the same task. The new Trek might have not developed Kirk's intelligence clearly enough, there were big pointers. He reprogrammed Spock's test. At nearly the beginning, Captain Pike directly comments on Kirk's intelligence. The sense I got was his impulsive nature had more control in the rebooted Kirk than the original.
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The way I heard it (and I was a fan way back) was that the studio did indeed say "Lose the alien and the girl on the bridge" and that Roddenberry decided he could save one of them, but not both. So he promoted Spock and married Number One. Then, because the studio had a policy of not re-hiring actors on the same show for different parts, Majel got herself a blonde wig and the part of Nurse Chapel.
For Chekov, I believe the Russians complained that there was no Russian on the bridge, the Space Race being at its height. At the same time, the Beatles were becoming very popular, so they combined the Russian with a Beatles haircut and voila!
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If this thread was posted in Hell, would we need to start discussing the Evil Alternate Universe Kirk? ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
That is the only part of the series Star Trek: Enterprise that I really felt was rather well done.
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Originally posted by no prophet:
Which now has me thinking, is the Ship Of Fools a sailing vessel or a starship?
A thread, and a set of posts, in Limbo which I will admit to being rather proud of. Unfortunately many of the names and in-jokes won't mean anything to people who have joined the Ship in the last seven years or so.
Oh man, loved it! Especially Commander Iren with the severe Bob.
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My favourite Klingon is Warf: Michael Dorn and I were at school together in Pasadena. He was also a teammate on our junior varsity (American) football team. I have seen him once in the last twenty years, at a Star Trek convention. He jets around to his various speaking engagements in fighter jets of the fifties and sixties; at last count, he owned three of them.
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Klingons are cute - our last two cats were called Martok and Gowron. They weren't very fierce though.
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My favourite Klingon is Warf:
Worf, dear boy, Worf. You make that same mistake every.single.time. you relate that anecdote.
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Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
My favourite Klingon is Warf:
Worf, dear boy, Worf. You make that same mistake every.single.time. you relate that anecdote.
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Nunc Dimittis
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When I next adopt feline companions (and next time it will be a plural, not singular), I have been contemplating calling them Tuvok and Spock after the most famousest of all Vulcans... Cats are, afterall, inscrutable in similar way to Vulcans. Although logical? Perhaps not!
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Originally posted by Nunc Dimittis:
Cats are, afterall, inscrutable in similar way to Vulcans.
Plus, they've got that pointy-ear thing going for them.
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LeRoc
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But ... what about this one?
"Felis catus is your taxonomic nomenclature,
An endothermic quadruped, carnivorous by nature."
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LeRoc
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I have to admit that I'm more of a dog person. I haven't watched much of Enterprise, but I'll give you Porthos.
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Firenze
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
I have to admit that I'm more of a dog person. I haven't watched much of Enterprise, but I'll give you Porthos.
Not sure where you meant that link to go. There's a lot on the page, none of it immediately leaping out at me as suggesting a connection to ST or dogs or even a musketeer.
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LeRoc
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Err...? I just tried it again. I get an image of Jonathan Archer holding Porthos. Maybe it depends on which country you are in? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Firenze
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
Err...? I just tried it again. I get an image of Jonathan Archer holding Porthos. Maybe it depends on which country you are in?
It must do. I get a line of pix of the Twilight stars, then a series of links to new trailers and a poll asking me if I think Channing Tatum is the sexiest man alive?
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LeRoc
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Firenze: It must do. I get a line of pix of the Twilight stars, then a series of links to new trailers and a poll asking me if I think Channing Tatum is the sexiest man alive?
Always interested in hearing your answer to the last question ![[Smile]](smile.gif) but the picture I tried to link to is this one (I hope it works now, and apologies for the mess.)
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Firenze
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Always interested in hearing your answer to the last question
I'm afraid it's 'Who?'
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Jane R
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I don't know who Channing Tatum is either, but how can he be sexy with a name like that? It sounds like a Tube station, or an obscure village in the Cotswolds.
Does anyone else have the Nitpickers' Guides to ST? We have the ones for TOS and TNG. I have to say, my favourite list in there is 'Kirk's Top 10 Reasons for Breaking the Prime Directive'.
My favourite quiz is the one for prospective starship captains...
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LeRoc
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Jane R: My favourite quiz is the one for prospective starship captains...
How does that work? Do you have to chose which actor would be the best fit as a captain?
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Trudy Scrumptious
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Originally posted by Jane R:
Does anyone else have the Nitpickers' Guides to ST? We have the ones for TOS and TNG. I have to say, my favourite list in there is 'Kirk's Top 10 Reasons for Breaking the Prime Directive'.
I love the Nitpickers' Guides!
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Books and things.
I lied. There are no things. Just books.
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