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Uncle Pete
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quote: Originally posted by Sleepwalker: quote: Originally posted by PeteC: When the baby is born, don't forget that it will be a royal prince(ss) of Cambridge
Apparently not.
Queenie will have to decide on that.
Your point is noted, but also voided by this paragraph of the same letters patent:
quote: Now Know Ye that We of our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion do hereby declare our Royal Will and Pleasure that the children of any Sovereign of these Realms and the children of the sons of any such Sovereign and the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales shall have and at all times hold and enjoy the style title or attribute of Royal Highness with their titular dignity of Prince or Princess prefixed to their respective Christian names or with their other titles of honour.
The bolded bit covers the eldest grandson of the Prince of Wales (or presumably when the succession is changed to allow girls) the eldest grandchild of the Prince of Wales, but not any other grandchildren.
But who knows? This situation hasn't arisen since before the Letters Patent of 1917 (1894-1900 for the first 4 children of Prince George, Duke of York.)
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Penny S
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Harold Oliver David
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Moo
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quote: Originally posted by Doublethink: (Worth breaking with tradition and not giving them a football team's worth of names too, I think.)
They already show more restraint than they did when George V's eldest son was named Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David. IIRC Brenda has only three names--Elizabeth Alexandra Mary.
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Pure Sunshine
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If the name has to be suitably regal, what about 'Macbeth'? Of course, we'd have to avoid saying it out loud ...
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cygnus
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For a girl- Destynee Nevaeh Unique Maddisyn
For a boy- Jayden-Haydden-Caden-Braydon
But seriously- I'd like to see Victoria for a girl (Queen Victoria ll has a nice ring to it)
And Richard or James for a boy.(Although I suppose he would be James lll & Vlll?)
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Uncle Pete
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James III and VII already exists if you are a Loyal Subject.
God bless the King. I mean the Faith's Defender God bless - no harm in blessing - the Pretender But who Pretender is and who the King God bless us all! That's quite another thing!
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Matt Black
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You....Jacobite, you!
[ETA - if you lot had your way, we'd have a monarch of German descent and,...er...] [ 06. December 2012, 08:56: Message edited by: Matt Black ]
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leftfieldlover
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Eleanor Elizabeth Diana Carole Victoria Elizabeth Diana Carole Jane Elizabeth Diana Carole
Elizabeth has to be there somewhere and the two grandmothers should be honoured. I've always thought Camilla a beautiful name, but maybe not this time!
I don't do boys names. My daughter's names were chosen well in advance of her birth but we didn't really think about my two sons' names until we were on the way to the hospital.
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Heavenly Anarchist
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Agree with your predictions for middle names but not Jane as a first name, that's a usurper's name.
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leftfieldlover
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quote: Originally posted by Heavenly Anarchist: Agree with your predictions for middle names but not Jane as a first name, that's a usurper's name.
I was thinking of Jane Seymour!
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Amos
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If they want to push the Wales angle instead of the Cambridge one, I'd go for Non or Nest for a girl and if a boy is born, he can be named Dyfrig.
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Firenze
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quote: Originally posted by leo: quote: Originally posted by Firenze: quote: Originally posted by leo: Chantelle Charmaigne Roxy
Yes, but what if it's a girl?
Merlin
Merlin Cambridge would work. In a preppy sort of way.
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: Merlin Cambridge would work. In a preppy sort of way.
Merlin Cambridge sounds like a 1950's motor car.
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Firenze
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: quote: Originally posted by Firenze: Merlin Cambridge would work. In a preppy sort of way.
Merlin Cambridge sounds like a 1950's motor car.
OK. Maybe they should call her Hillman Minx.
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Sarasa
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I once actually knew someone called Aston Martin - and that is the favourite car of at least one of the grandads....
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Heavenly Anarchist
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He must be well acquainted with Ford Prefect ![[Smile]](smile.gif) [ 06. December 2012, 18:30: Message edited by: Heavenly Anarchist ]
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deano
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Anyway... have they said whether they're keeping it yet?
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Jonah the Whale
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If it's a boy I think we should forget Ralph and Huey, go for Earl which is much more aristocratic. Or in the interests of appearing Euro-friendly how about Roy, which is based on the French for king. You could pick a smaller European country to be more exotic. We could go for the Danish for King, which is Kong. That would have quite a nice ring to it.
Huntress: quote: Of course the Anglo-Saxon monarch list does include Canute, sometimes spelled 'Cnut'.
I was pretty sure he was Danish.
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Amos
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In that case they should spell it 'Knut.' Like the late polar bear.
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Piglet
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quote: Originally posted by PeteC: piglet dear, Wills and Harry were "of Wales" from the start because Papa was already Prince of Wales.
When Charles was born, back in the mists of time, he was officially Prince Charles of Edinburgh. On February 7th, 1952, he became Prince Charles, Duke of Cornwall and a whole slew of Scottish titles due to his status as the Sovereign's eldest son. A sovereign's children, otherwise are Princes and Princes of nothing.
William was "of Wales" until he married, when he was created Duke of Cambridge. Thus, Prince Lloyd and Princess Ermyntrude of Cambridge.
I see what you mean; I was assuming that you couldn't be a Prince/Princess of somewhere that wasn't a Principality (i.e. Cambridge), but I'm prepared to admit that I'm probably wrong.
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comet
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quote: Originally posted by Jonah the Whale: We could go for the Danish for King, which is Kong. That would have quite a nice ring to it.
Please please PLEASE(!) can we name the little nipper Kong? 'cause when he takes to the throne I want to hear all those newsnerds announce "King Kong".
I'm easily entertained.
Alternately, i'd dig "Mufasa". Sounds so badass, you know. That's a king you'd STFU and listen to. Just keep the wildebeasts away.
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Huia
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quote: Originally posted by Amos: If they want to push the Wales angle instead of the Cambridge one, I'd go for Non or Nest for a girl and if a boy is born, he can be named Dyfrig.
Yes, a future King named after a Shipmate = almost as good as King Kong.
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Ceannaideach
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quote: Originally posted by cygnus: (Although I suppose he would be James lll & Vlll?)
Ah now Mr Stephen Fry on that ever entertaining show QI has addressed this issue. Ever since folks north of the border took issue with QEII (seeing as her majesty is technically their first Queen Elizabeth) parliament decreed that the numeral of the monarch's name would be which ever was highest from the lists of English and Scottish monarchs.
So if the royal bairn was named Malcolm he would not be Malcolm I, rather Malcolm IV If Edward then Edward IX etc etc
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Uncle Pete
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That's a neat bit of information I will store away in the large part of my brain which holds useless trivia. ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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Pigwidgeon
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Unfortunately, most of us here won't be around to see this baby take the throne -- and to see if he/she uses his/her birth name or takes another. (I've heard that Charles is considering being George VII, if he ever gets the job.
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Morlader
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quote: Originally posted by Ceannaideach: quote: Originally posted by cygnus: (Although I suppose he would be James lll & Vlll?)
Ah now Mr Stephen Fry on that ever entertaining show QI has addressed this issue. Ever since folks north of the border took issue with QEII (seeing as her majesty is technically their first Queen Elizabeth) parliament decreed that the numeral of the monarch's name would be which ever was highest from the lists of English and Scottish monarchs.
Assuming the decree applies also to the old kingdoms of Wales and Cornwall, I'd go for Mark, becoming eventually King Mark II. Then people asking "Who was King Mark I?" would get the answer "King Mark of Cornwall", which just might lead to some interestiing discussions.
On a slightly different tack, the only way a female can acquire the title "Duchess of Cornwall" is by marrying the Duke of Cornwall, the eldest son of the sovreign. Unless the Act giving succession to the eldest child of the sovreign covered that tangential point. [ 08. December 2012, 14:12: Message edited by: Morlader ]
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