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Tortuf
Ship's fisherman
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Hell is, however, a good place to find out what happens when you try passive aggressive moves to amuse yourself.
Personally, I don't like modern worship music. This is probably because it is hard to sing, or it is too . . . something . . . for me. If you like it whatsyourname, more power to you.
However, if you are going to do a lame rant to set people up for giving you your jollies by playing the "I'm disabled" card, you might want to try a more introspective style of worship.
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malik3000
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Craigie has her/his chosen likes in music and worship styles (perhaps quite different from mine) as is his/her right. She/he says difficulties in getting to a worship place of choice are involved and that's nobody else's business. Questioning that is just plain rudeness. (Sure, this is Hell and insults are fine, but even in hell there may be aspects of a person's personal situation that ought better be left alone.) Also, the OP did not seem troll-like to me.
Why not direct ire at the money-grubbing capitalists who constantly devise ways to provide less service for more money. The music "industry" is one of the more flamboyant examples of the evils of mega-corporate capitalism, and i've found that those who make religion the milieu of their marketing hustle tend to be as lacking in ethics, if not more, as their fellow hustlers.
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IntellectByProxy
Larger than you think
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Originally posted by comet:
you, my little apprentice whippersnapper, need to get the fuck out of the house more and face real people and the real world.
He lives in Dorset, so I can assure you he is taking the appropriate course of action and staying in doors, thereby reducing the chances of being stuffed into a wicker effigy and set on fire.
I live there too, and I survive on my cunning and a set of flame-proof overalls.
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Sioni Sais
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Craigie,
Others have filled you in on many of the features of the Ship of Fools in general and this place in particular, but if sympathy, empathy, support and healing prayer are needed, then All Saints is where you want to be. Not here.
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Chorister
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Don't think having printed lyrics which come with the CD will solve all your problems - I learnt years ago that most of the enclosed lyrics have more mistakes in them than the partially-sighted drunken chief scribe of Forde Abbey's Psalter. And that's saying something.
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Lamb Chopped
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
I see. I was afraid of that.
And if it isn't a slowly cooked Crown Roast of Lamb, it still could be lamb tartar. Poor Craigie. ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif) ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
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Pomona
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Originally posted by Craigie:
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Is Google not your friend?
Why the hell should I fire up by laptop and search online everytime I want to use a CD. Bearing in mind I would have to search for each song which hardly adds the the seemless worship time I had in mind! Apart from the time it takes, the presumption I have a computer with me all the time at home, there is the cost in electricity and the environmental impact.
I return to my original point...it is much easier to include the lyrics with the CD. Christian CDs have had lyrics included since the 80's and before on records and tapes. The only reason I was given from the company for the lack of lyrics was that it cost them more to include them. In other words they will sell the CD at the same cost (note that the savings they make don't get passed on) and as a free gift you can use your laptop and waste time, energy and increase your carbon footprint. I would rather pay a £1 more to have the lyrics.
I would also point out that Christian artists have in the past become popular because Christians have sung along to their music. If publishers are putting their music out there without lyrics then they are doing these people a disservice. ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
Hang on, do you physically use your CDs on your laptop - as in, you haven't uploaded them to Media Player/whatever program you use? Obviously you'll have to waste time faffing around then, when you could just create your own playlists beforehand which would play seamlessly. Or if you want new music, use a service like Spotify or even youtube playlists. Unfortunately I think you have to choose between the quality of music on CD and the ease of digital music. As for lyrics, the bonus with downloading them in pdf format or whatever is that the font size etc can be changed. I always struggled to read lyrics that came with CDs. I think technology would improve your experience, not harm it.
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
Hang on, do you physically use your CDs on your laptop - as in, you haven't uploaded them to Media Player/whatever program you use? Obviously you'll have to waste time faffing around then, when you could just create your own playlists beforehand which would play seamlessly. Or if you want new music, use a service like Spotify or even youtube playlists. Unfortunately I think you have to choose between the quality of music on CD and the ease of digital music. As for lyrics, the bonus with downloading them in pdf format or whatever is that the font size etc can be changed. I always struggled to read lyrics that came with CDs. I think technology would improve your experience, not harm it.
I realize I'm old and all, but I suspect Craigie uses an actually CD player. you can see them in museums - big boxy things with speakers. they require no use of computers at all. kinda nifty if you're into retro.
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"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.” -Calvin
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Marvin the Martian
Interplanetary
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
Hang on, do you physically use your CDs on your laptop - as in, you haven't uploaded them to Media Player/whatever program you use?
This may surprise you, but there are still those of us who listen to CDs without any form of personal computer involved whatsoever. We have these bits of equipment called "stereos".
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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beacha to it, Mr Big Bad Ray Gun. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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One Infernal Dance coming right up.
No lyrics. But a damn good piece of music.
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Pomona
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Originally posted by comet:
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Originally posted by Jade Constable:
Hang on, do you physically use your CDs on your laptop - as in, you haven't uploaded them to Media Player/whatever program you use? Obviously you'll have to waste time faffing around then, when you could just create your own playlists beforehand which would play seamlessly. Or if you want new music, use a service like Spotify or even youtube playlists. Unfortunately I think you have to choose between the quality of music on CD and the ease of digital music. As for lyrics, the bonus with downloading them in pdf format or whatever is that the font size etc can be changed. I always struggled to read lyrics that came with CDs. I think technology would improve your experience, not harm it.
I realize I'm old and all, but I suspect Craigie uses an actually CD player. you can see them in museums - big boxy things with speakers. they require no use of computers at all. kinda nifty if you're into retro.
Well yes, but I was referring to his comments on having to turn on the laptop every time he wants song lyrics. If the laptop is on already why use a stereo...? May as well just use the laptop for everything involved in the worship session.
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Vulpior
Foxier than Thou
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A lot of lyric sites are crowd-sourced, meaning they are not the author's definitive version. They may include inaccuracies, although crowd-sourcing (as in Wikipedia and the like) does lead to refinement and accuracy over time.
For the particular genre, hymns/worship songs that are still in copyright are difficult or even impossible to find publicly available online.
I too like to see lyrics and texts in the media that I buy, which is primarily physical CDs. We have to specify our audio and video separately for contents insurance; the general policy caps claims at $2,500, and we probably have around 10 times that.
Only yesterday I was playing my two disc (vinyl) copy of Handel's Israel in Egypt, and I did refer to the sleeve notes in the box.
Typically I have found that "Best of" compilations don't include lyrics. perhaps they assume that you already own the original albums. In that case, why do I need to buy the frigging compilation?!
The album is an art form, with cover art, sleeve notes, lyrics, acknowledgements and a label/CD surface deign, alongside a carefully selected and sequenced track list, perhaps with bonus tracks. Downloading individual tracks does away with much of that.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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"Click here to download the Mondegreens of your selected song"
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Rosa Winkel
Saint Anger round my neck
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Various questions in Ecclesiantics about liturgy. A liking of the letter "E" (say, in the signature and various things on her/his profile). A rhyming (kind of) of her/his name with two names of a former shipmate that I have in my head at the moment.
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churchgeek
Have candles, will pray
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I'm not very good at hell posts (I rarely make them). But I can't help chiming in here all purgatorial-like.
I agree that the CD company is just being cheap and there's no excuse for them not including lyrics in a CD that presumably is meant for people to sing along to.
That said, I have in the past printed lyrics off the internet and folded them into the CD jewel case. That does require some work, getting the lyrics on a small enough sheet of paper to stuff it in there, but it's a possible if second-rate solution.
You could also limit your purchases to CDs with songs you already know. There are lots of CDs out there with collections of old familiar hymns.
Taizé chants are also fairly easy to pick up, although some are in Latin and other languages.
Otherwise, if I were you, I'd sing along to what I did know, and pray/meditate while listening to the other songs. That might be the simplest thing to do. Who knows, you might pick up on some of the lyrics and melodies by specifically not trying to do so. But at least you could use those musical interludes to be quiet and receptive or something, whatever suits your own spirituality.
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Marvin the Martian
Interplanetary
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Originally posted by lilyswinburne:
What is a "worship CD"?
A CD (you know, those little round shiny things that you put in a stereo and they play music) with worship songs (you know, those things we sing in church) on it.
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Spike
Mostly Harmless
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
A CD (you know, those little round shiny things that you put in a stereo and they play music) with worship songs (you know, those things we sing in church) on it.
What do you mean "we"?
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
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Originally posted by lilyswinburne:
What is a "worship CD"?
A CD (you know, those little round shiny things that you put in a stereo and they play music) with worship songs (you know, those things we sing in church) on it.
Do these discs play music, or do they play the sort of thing that goes under the name of "worship song" and which I understand is used in some churches?
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passer
Indigo
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
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Originally posted by lilyswinburne:
What is a "worship CD"?
A CD (you know, those little round shiny things that you put in a stereo and they play music) with worship songs (you know, those things we sing in church) on it.
Do these discs play music, or do they play the sort of thing that goes under the name of "worship song" and which I understand is used in some churches?
You'd probably need to check the lyrics on the enclosed insert to ascertain that. If the lyrics aren't included, you can usually go to some obscure website and print them off yourself.
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Uncle Pete
Loyaute me lie
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Thank you, passer. I note, with some bemusement, that you haven't bothered to read page 1. Had you done so, you would not have repeated the advice already given.
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mdijon
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My guess* is that was Passer's point. A sort of joke, if you will.
* I'm charitable like that.
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passer
Indigo
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Oh Pete - I was merely attempting to complete the circle, suggested by the posts preceding mine, and returning the thread to its OP, à la Ouroboros, before you send it trip-trapping to the depths. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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